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I'm getting space to make the magic circle around me, I thought I'd draw on a paper and instead of staying inside the circle to protect myself, I evoke a part of the spirit inside the circle so it doesn't escape, what do you think? recommend some entity/spirit for a beginner.
 

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What do I think? I don't know. Well, what I would suggest is getting out your tarot deck, or use whatever kind of divination you have had the most success using, and ask...

"What will be the likely outcome for me if I invoke/evoke [the name of your desired spirit] in order to [state your intent for summoning]?"

Divination is, after all, of paramount importance to any mage.
 
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I'm getting space to make the magic circle around me, I thought I'd draw on a paper and instead of staying inside the circle to protect myself, I evoke a part of the spirit inside the circle so it doesn't escape, what do you think? recommend some entity/spirit for a beginner.
Its good, as long as you dont mind being potentially possessed partially or fully by doing so. As a demonolater or witch might tell you, the circle is about containing the power down into the circle, in which you are the center of the universe, and image of God. As a ceremonial mage in that latter part might say.

Whats the reason for deviation from standard procedures for evocation?
There are several methods within the RHP or the LHP. Some debatably in between LHP and RHP.

The process doesn't appear to be the question, but rather the effect would be. Well, by lettering your circle, your consciousness and state of mind might shift. As you undergo the drama, ritual and emotion thrown into it then you should expect it to be successful. As long as you command and retain your role and state of mind as an operator above all, the rest should follow your intent will and visualization.
Then give license to depart and later offerings perhaps as a followup simply for that, they appreciate that method in my experience.
Not giving offerings might not give you expected service. It is transactional, but they expect relationships as well as transactions.
The others are right, I would use circle and triangle, that is, if I ever use anything besides a LRP or LRH while evoking spirits by gazing in a trance state at the sigil and giving charge and license.
 
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But that reply was right, if you need a recommendation for a spirit to evoke, then you might or might not be ready for it. You should know what you are, who you are, what you want, why you want it, and what the cause and effect is. At least, thatsts my thought, perhaps untrue or incorrect. I do not mind being corrected.
But it is potentially dangerous to recommend a spirit.
I can attest you can send one to someone using a method. I did it and it worked for the other person. Sent a spirit next to him buy imagining a slit frame photo of the two, while going at its seal off the selected Tarot of Ceremonial Magick card.
Why do you want to evoke a particular spirit?
What questions do you have prepared for it?
Can you easily slip in and out of trance by anchors?
Do you know how to fully immerse yourself?

I mean, its cool if you do. These are just my thoughts on it, not trying to be Mr Grand Inquisitor,
 

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But that reply was right, if you need a recommendation for a spirit to evoke, then you might or might not be ready for it. You should know what you are, who you are, what you want, why you want it, and what the cause and effect is. At least, thatsts my thought, perhaps untrue or incorrect. I do not mind being corrected.
But it is potentially dangerous to recommend a spirit.
I can attest you can send one to someone using a method. I did it and it worked for the other person. Sent a spirit next to him buy imagining a slit frame photo of the two, while going at its seal off the selected Tarot of Ceremonial Magick card.
Why do you want to evoke a particular spirit?
What questions do you have prepared for it?
Can you easily slip in and out of trance by anchors?
Do you know how to fully immerse yourself?

I mean, its cool if you do. These are just my thoughts on it, not trying to be Mr Grand Inquisitor,
Some doubts about trance, I saw somewhere that trance is not necessarily an extreme state of meditation that can be automatic painting, automatic writing or things like that, this is correct, self hypnosis would be a trance state?
 

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automatic painting, automatic writing or things like that
You may want to look up Austin Osman Spare. He was a modern (c 1900) pioneer of that kind of magic. His books are in the public domain, and I believe I got most of them from archive.org (and a lot of other magical texts are there also). A. O. Spare inspired the Chaos Magick movement and modern "shamanism" involving trance states (gnosis), sigils, and things like that. You might check the forum library for Visual Magick by Jan Fries too.

No matter what kind of magic you practice, it can take a long time to become good at it. It is really up to you to decide. We can only point out possible directions for you to explore.
 

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Could you please make a small list with the main directions of magic for me to try to decide, I was never good with choices, Thanks in advance, sorry if it's asking too much
 

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Could you please make a small list with the main directions of magic for me to try to decide, I was never good with choices, Thanks in advance, sorry if it's asking too much
You should know how to divine before trying any such operation

Also I recommend Dion Fortune as she explained HOW magic works.
 
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She does explain it very well in that book, which I had read like a college textbook, and like many college textbooks, few material retained. I do however recall Hod and Netzach very interesting in terms of type and methodology of magic. Very anthropology-like.
Her fiction, like Moon Magic, Secrets of Dr Taverner, etc are quite good as well.
Psychic Self Defense is also good.
 
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Perhaps it would be good to improve your choice abilities before putting yourself into the hands of invisible entities
I can attest to this being a bad idea. Many times I was rebuked by an old teacher, but sadly did not listen then. I vow to listen o my teachers now. Their job is to guide their students into what they should know and provide structure and a solid foundation, in my opinion.
I have several times walked right into the fowlers snare. I think God has a limit on patience, in my case at least.
 
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