Honestly, what is the point of incarnation?

[NightWatchman95]

What makes you say that?

information can not be created or destroyed, only change forms, you still exist, just in a different state of energy.

 

[MidnightProphet]

Incarnation ? Non existent. You never die. You just forget. Nobody dies. 333333

True! And it's called reincarnation!

 

[Kepler]

To me the point is about adjusting the vector and cohesion of the soul through upstream thoughts that align with astronomical relationships. In terms of astral, living celestial mythic metaphor, as a product of the thoughts of biological life, an information carrier in the cosmic soul, that keeps cohesion itself when in correspondence with the natural world even without interaction while discarnate. Truth, a basis of ethics.

Underlying that is a broader point about all biological life informing the cosmic soul/mind and natural selection.

 

[ArchonLynx]

We just here just like ants are just here humans just like to think they special that's all

You will endlessly be here no escape for anyone.

 

[tornribbon1402]

i believe that if there is one , ꒰ and i highly both think and hope there is ꒱ the reason is so that you can have one happy lifetime after many tries ! and then , it will be be the last one , and you'll finally go 2 your own version of heaven , whether it would be your favourite spirit's realm , or just sleeping forever , or anything else ´ ` but that's oonly that i think ...

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oh nvm i just realised it said incarnation instead of reincarnation :c

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but ... if it's really about the purpose of life , then i believe that our purpose here is 2 do as many nice things as possible for others and make the world a better place . not only for us , but also for everyone else that will come after us . do nice things . make someone else's day better . have a sandwich that you don't like ... ? you can always give it to a hungry homeless person or stray kitty ^^ see some litter on the ground ... ? especially in a protected area ... ?! you can always pick it up and make that place cleaner ! that way , maybe people will see what you did , and even if they didn't see if it was YOU who did it , it will still give them hope that somewhere , out there , there is someone who still has kindness (*´▽`)

so yeah , i think that's what the purpose of life is ! to make the world and lives of others better !

 

[PinealisGlandia]

I'd really appreciate someone answering OP's post in the context of infant mortality. Answering reincarnation questions is easy for people who live to adulthood, but my daughter died at 22 months a few years ago and I'm stumped on the point of incarnating for such a brief stint.

 

[tornribbon1402]

I'd really appreciate someone answering OP's post in the context of infant mortality. Answering reincarnation questions is easy for people who live to adulthood, but my daughter died at 22 months a few years ago and I'm stumped on the point of incarnating for such a brief stint.

i'm so so sorry for you :c have a virtual hug

 

[JGVDRG]

In my perspective, we are inside a realm where we are servants, underdogs, slaves, puppets, whatever you name it, to a hierarchical cosmic system. The chosen terminology is not relevant. The material world is some sort of sandbox. A prison to shape your (originally indomitable) soul, so we are trained, after countless incarnations, to become gradually more obedient, domesticated, tamed, jaded, compliant. So we can get comfortable with being controlled by external circumstances, never being ensured of anything, while constantly sacrificing everything. So we get used to slowly dissolve into collective thought-forms and eventually let go of our ancient memory that contains the story of what actually happened to us. You could deduce this by observing reality's mechanisms. None of this is set to make your way any easier if your interests are not aligned with the hive. If you are, the process gets incredibly simpler. Just let your individuality go and blend in.

There is an inherent purpose for the creation of this world and the cosmos around us. It is a representation of the creator's mind and we cannot scrutinize it sufficiently, because we are set to be inferior, limited and inside it's reflection. Which already tells us a lot. We can only see the effects of an (almost) inscrutable cause. We are never quite adapted to the contingencies, of course, because we are conscious rational beings, exceptions to the nature around us, so we perceive the flaws, the disparities, the unbearable imbalance between Will and the fabricated reality.

This points to the inference that we might have originated elsewhere, so we were trapped and modified, not created. Human consciousness is an anomaly compared to this universe. Humans can be ethically superior to the phenomena around them (the material universe has no space for mercy, pondering, charity, love, etc.), so, if the cosmos is a representation of the creator's will, we are also potentially ethically superior to the creator itself, who've created abhorrent mechanisms to ensure the maintenance of it's own system (incarnation and reincarnation are good examples of it, along with pain, suffering and sorrow). All myths (I know) revolving the creation of the universe eventually stumbles upon some sort of tragic mistake, error or misleading process that made us descend into this place. All of the good aspects of this world are reflections of our own virtues. Other creatures cannot appreciate the beauty of this world. Only rational minds could do so, only minds of a creator could do so. Even our depiction of a gracious God, a heaven, a plethora of benevolent angels: merely the reflection of our own virtue and ethical superiority to the creation and the creator itself. A glimpse of our own nature, in contrast with the external nature of matter, collective behavior and expected human endeavors (working, building civilization, surviving, etc.).

So, our purpose? I guess it is entirely based on choice, although the rule set doesn't collaborate with us any more than to make us increasingly weaker and subservient. So you could go with the flow and get finally assimilated, forgetting all about who you actually are, to let your ego die along with your autonomy and serve the game, or you could reverse engineer your way out of it solo. Magic is one of the ways you can do both types of alchemy. To accelerate your process of dissolution, which is the expected, easier path. Or to escape the cosmic process, or to take your revenge against it, or to transcend the whole process as an individual being. Or other processes I'm not familiar with.

 

[hiramabiff]

I know you come to earth to experience, spiritually evolve and learn, but I supposed often I feel quite a bit disheartened and disappointed by the whole experience of being here, because I feel as such, I mean I'm not really stagnating, but I sometimes do because the things that the earth values don't really feel like the things that I value, or the best place to be for my spiritual evolution. I mean, I'm going to be straight, it's not very focused on things such as charity, kindness, serving others which has brought me satisfaction and growth and being on in a realm which prioritizes profit and material comforts seems to be rather counter-active towards my spiritual growth, and I wonder if this is really the best place to be incarnated in?

I mean, I'm not getting down on myself, and honestly, not to get too new agey. What do you consider to be the purpose of incarnation? Do you just come to evolve so you can access higher planes of the astral realm in-between lives where things feel and look prettier? Isn't that sort of pointless too in the large scale of everything? I mean, I wouldn't call the astral realm to be illusionary, because it's described as feeling and being more real than this realm, but sometimes I wonder, what is the point of everything?

In my opinion, the meaning of existence is no meaning at all. You believe in meaning because you were programmed to believe in it. The point of reincarnation is to believe, suffer, and discover things that are absent in your current life. Perhaps you'll reincarnate into lives or things that are experienced repeatedly, but what's special is how you'll perceive and interpret them. Whether it's meaningful or meaningless, that's up to you. It may feel meaningless in the grand scheme of things, but the chances of not being self-aware in other lives are quite high. So I would say, cherish this current life because you're aware of things that most people are not.

 

[JGVDRG]

the meaning of existence is no meaning at all. You believe in meaning because you were programmed to believe in it.

If we were programmed to believe, in fact, if we were programmed at all, then there must be an objective or at least intention within the mind of whom have programmed us or any lifeform. Then instead of fabricating meaning, we could in fact deduce intention, objective, purpose behind the creation of which we are a part of and act based on our own conclusions. Then our action is full of actual meaning, instead of fantasy.

the chances of not being self-aware in other lives are quite high.

In the material universe, perhaps. I wouldn't call becoming materialized the epitome of elevation. So if that happens with the soul you might as well want the experience to be not only void of self-awareness but pretty close to non-sentience.

So I would say, cherish this current life because you're aware of things that most people are not.

If this didn't draw the soul to fully indulge itself into cycles of reincarnations, I would agree. After countless repetitions of the same process, the "novelty and rarity" of material life ends up losing it's bright. The world renews it's mechanisms and the gained virtues goes along with our departure, so...why cherish this current life instead of aiming beyond (100%)?