"How to Cope With Finding Out You're Not Autistic"

[Xenophon]

That's the actual title (and topic) of a wikihow article. (You can PM me for the link.) Apparently...apparently what? Autism is now chic? I know, I know, I know. There's this big spectrum and some folks on it are highly effective people. BFD. The condition too often hamstrings any number of relations. I had a younger colleague whose 21 year old cousin pretty much existed on the level of a quiet 5 month old baby. Quite the superpower.

In any case, it seems an odd thing to crave a condition that is not itself a talent and is, at best, only sometimes a concomitant to talents that appear rather more often without autism. (Concentration, say. Or saying exactly what one thinks.) The article---and autism chic---seem to point to an underlying narcissism: the inability to simply live life sans self-dramatics about nigh insuperable obstacles. Like Harley "Bronco" Nutcracher, my ol' football coach, said: "Careful there boy. A feller can get charley-horsed patting his own back too often."

 

[Robert Ramsay]

Like Kurt Vonnegut said "People create drama because they want their lives to be like stories"

Lots of people want to have something special to make their lives less dull, and this is only one of them.

That quote from the football coach just reminded me of a similar comment: "He'd fuck himself if he could turn round fast enough"

 

[Xenophon]

Like Kurt Vonnegut said "People create drama because they want their lives to be like stories"

Lots of people want to have something special to make their lives less dull, and this is only one of them.

That quote from the football coach just reminded me of a similar comment: "He'd fuck himself if he could turn round fast enough"

I have read that in the West now it is a sometime thing for people to have themselves surgically maimed. I can't recall the name of the so-called condition, some sort of body diasphora. "Body Integrity Disorder" is maybe the name. One "identifies," say, as an amputee. One would think the Hippocratic Oath would prevent such surgery. But given the convoluted legal terrain among the DSO (Degenerate States of the Occident), it's not hard to imagine the reasoning here. The doctor who refuses to lop off my leg is doing me "irreparable psychological harm."

In his failing years, I am told Somerset Maugham lamented "in these times it grows harder and harder to write satire." Well, of course. It's easier to write truthful headlines, no? Garvey's "The Watchful Poker Chip of H. Matisse"---the protagonist plucks out an eye to keep the interest of his trendy new friend set--- would be rejected by the night news editor with a shrug and a "so what?"

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Like Kurt Vonnegut said "People create drama because they want their lives to be like stories"

Lots of people want to have something special to make their lives less dull, and this is only one of them.

That quote from the football coach just reminded me of a similar comment: "He'd fuck himself if he could turn round fast enough"

Charles Manson said that, too. Rather more unpleasantly, he lived it.

 

[Aeternus]

That's the actual title (and topic) of a wikihow article. (You can PM me for the link.) Apparently...apparently what? Autism is now chic? I know, I know, I know. There's this big spectrum and some folks on it are highly effective people. BFD. The condition too often hamstrings any number of relations. I had a younger colleague whose 21 year old cousin pretty much existed on the level of a quiet 5 month old baby. Quite the superpower.

In any case, it seems an odd thing to crave a condition that is not itself a talent and is, at best, only sometimes a concomitant to talents that appear rather more often without autism. (Concentration, say. Or saying exactly what one thinks.) The article---and autism chic---seem to point to an underlying narcissism: the inability to simply live life sans self-dramatics about nigh insuperable obstacles. Like Harley "Bronco" Nutcracher, my ol' football coach, said: "Careful there boy. A feller can get charley-horsed patting his own back too often."

Well, I want to add that I am on Asperger's Syndrome (Highly Functional / Operative Autism).

As for other things, I think Autism isn't necessarily chic. The problem is with people who are con artists and pretend to have ASD (Autism Spectrum Disorder) and portray a lot of things in a fake manner.

I remember there was a case about a 40 years old lady who tricked her tiktok followers into believing she had Tourettes syndrome.

 

[Robert Ramsay]

I have read that in the West now it is a sometime thing for people to have themselves surgically maimed. I can't recall the name of the so-called condition, some sort of body diasphora. "Body Integrity Disorder" is maybe the name.

This has now been identified as a physical brain disorder, a malfunction of a person's prioperception system. Their brain is telling them that their leg or whichever is not actually part of their body. It's not some weird attention seeking device; these people have something physically wrong with them that we can't fix because the brain is too complex.

Think of it as the reverse of phantom limb syndrome.

 

[Xenophon]

This has now been identified as a physical brain disorder, a malfunction of a person's prioperception system. Their brain is telling them that their leg or whichever is not actually part of their body. It's not some weird attention seeking device; these people have something physically wrong with them that we can't fix because the brain is too complex.

Think of it as the reverse of phantom limb syndrome.

"Identified for the moment," you mean. The cultural trajectory is to take all perceptions as of equal value. "By what right does any doctor dare judge me as 'disordered'?!" With a little verbal trimming, that'd be a Meme of the Month, it would.

 

[Robert Ramsay]

"Identified for the moment," you mean. The cultural trajectory is to take all perceptions as of equal value. "By what right does any doctor dare judge me as 'disordered'?!" With a little verbal trimming, that'd be a Meme of the Month, it would.

I mean identified by actual science.

 

[Taudefindi]

Lots of people want to have something special to make their lives less dull, and this is only one of them.

I find so strange that people seek to be neurodivergent, as if that was a "quirky trait to have" rather than just a condition of being.

Plus, how dull one's life has to be in order for them to treat "being neurodivergent" as something "special to be"?

They would be better off seeking hobbies.

The problem is with people who are con artists and pretend to have ASD (Autism Spectrum Disorder)

I don't know why I'm even surprised that there are pretenders of this.

 

[IllusiveOwl]

How does one cope with it?

 

[Yazata]

How does one cope with it?

Crying

 

[Aeternus]

I don't know why I'm even surprised that there are pretenders of this.

I'm not surprised either. Some people really like to extort the feelings of sadness or of giving help that normal people have towards some of the suffering.

That is when I scroll on YouTube or on other media and see someone pretending to be with ADHD or Asperger's syndrome or (insert ASD (Autism Spectrum Disorder) disorder), it simply makes me nauseous.

What is more disgusting in my opinion is also the foolishness of people who still don't check facts.

Such story happened in a case when a woman pretended to have tourette's syndrome.

Here is the video:

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[Xenophon]

Science can be fickle is all I'm saying. Or, more accurately, subject to pressure from non-scientific quarters.

I mean identified by actual science.

 

[Robert Ramsay]

Science can be fickle is all I'm saying. Or, more accurately, subject to pressure from non-scientific quarters.

The number of people who have this syndrome is miniscule. Luckily, our brains don't go wrong in this particular way very often, it seems. Anyone pretending any kind of mental/physical illness for attention seeking deserves all they get.

 

[Aeternus]

The number of people who have this syndrome is miniscule. Luckily, our brains don't go wrong in this particular way very often, it seems. Anyone pretending any kind of mental/physical illness for attention seeking deserves all they get.

Indeed. Pretending to be sick is really disgusting.

 

[Xenophon]

The number of people who have this syndrome is miniscule. Luckily, our brains don't go wrong in this particular way very often, it seems. Anyone pretending any kind of mental/physical illness for attention seeking deserves all they get.

Sadly enough, various "conditions" become all the rage. I remember back afore the turn of this century when "I have a disease called alcoholism" was a trump card for just about any life-crisis.

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Indeed. Pretending to be sick is really disgusting.

Careful. It's probably been classified as a disorder, which makes you a bigot.

 

[voidcat]

I'm thinking as an autistic person whose been diagnosed since I was 9 and every doctor I met has said I have it...

If I suddenly found out im not really autistic it would result in a huge identity crisis huge. It's because Autism affects a large part of my life. It's a neurodevelopmental disorder that affects all aspects of your life. I don't see me being autistic as a bad thing disability is a fact of life and without my autism I wouldn't be me. I would never ask for a cure despite the fact I go nonverbal at times, live in a group home for disabled adults, and struggle with some day to day tasks

But let's say I didn't have autism. Maybe I still am disabled but it's not autism. Then what the heck is going on with me? It would truly be a mindblown moment an identity crisis.

Let's say I was in a situation where I thought I had autism. Wasn't diagnosed. But everything seems to match it. I spend years researching studying everything to try to figure out what was going on with me why I was struggling. And so much of my problems match that of autistic. But then boom I'm not autistic. It would be awful. I then would have to figure out then why I'm struggling and there's no answers. That sounds scary. Maybe they diagnose me with something similar. Like a chromosome disorder or a serious illness. Maybe it could even be a life threatening disorder. Idk. Say I know nothing about said disorder. What are my next steps? What would I do?

I put myself in that place mentally i can't imagine it. That link I hope helps people in a situation like that.

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This isn't even considering how complex autism is and how research is constantly evolving on it. And how difficult getting a diagnosis can be

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Or how serious some disorders that are mistaken for autism can be like scizophrenia. Imagine thinking you autistic then finding out you not you just a schizophrenic whose been that way since childhood

 

[Xenophon]

I'm thinking as an autistic person whose been diagnosed since I was 9 and every doctor I met has said I have it...

If I suddenly found out im not really autistic it would result in a huge identity crisis huge. It's because Autism affects a large part of my life. It's a neurodevelopmental disorder that affects all aspects of your life. I don't see me being autistic as a bad thing disability is a fact of life and without my autism I wouldn't be me. I would never ask for a cure despite the fact I go nonverbal at times, live in a group home for disabled adults, and struggle with some day to day tasks

But let's say I didn't have autism. Maybe I still am disabled but it's not autism. Then what the heck is going on with me? It would truly be a mindblown moment an identity crisis.

Let's say I was in a situation where I thought I had autism. Wasn't diagnosed. But everything seems to match it. I spend years researching studying everything to try to figure out what was going on with me why I was struggling. And so much of my problems match that of autistic. But then boom I'm not autistic. It would be awful. I then would have to figure out then why I'm struggling and there's no answers. That sounds scary. Maybe they diagnose me with something similar. Like a chromosome disorder or a serious illness. Maybe it could even be a life threatening disorder. Idk. Say I know nothing about said disorder. What are my next steps? What would I do?

I put myself in that place mentally i can't imagine it. That link I hope helps people in a situation like that.

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This isn't even considering how complex autism is and how research is constantly evolving on it. And how difficult getting a diagnosis can be

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Or how serious some disorders that are mistaken for autism can be like scizophrenia. Imagine thinking you autistic then finding out you not you just a schizophrenic whose been that way since childhood

Best of luck dealing with what you have to deal with. At the other end of the array, one finds wankers like a couple of kin of mine who, after successful enough lives, seem almost proud to have found a quiz or a bored therapist friend who finally agreed, "OK, you're on the spectrum."

 

[voidcat]

Best of luck dealing with what you have to deal with. At the other end of the array, one finds wankers like a couple of kin of mine who, after successful enough lives, seem almost proud to have found a quiz or a bored therapist friend who finally agreed, "OK, you're on the spectrum."

I read the article you talking about. It had solid advice for people who are genuinely struggling. Solid advice. It wasn't an article on being trendy or anything. It had advice on what possible disorders could be mistaken for autism to look into, on stigmas, on how difficult getting a diagnosis can be etc...I find it concerning you reading an article giving solid advice like that and spinning it around like the way you did.

I am autistic been diagnosed since I was a kid. I know many people who are adults who struggle to get a diagnosis after years of trying. People who struggled their whole lives but because they mask well or they aren't presenting like people expect autism to or the therapist/psychologist is going off outdated information etc... it's a genuine problem. One that effects tons of people. Lot of people have came to me for advice on getting diagnosed or on how to cope after being diagnosed. I help.

It just was weird to me you see an article geared towards genuinely helping people struggling with a real issue and being like oh they just being trendy when that's not the case for many people reading that article.

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How does one cope with it?

I'll tell you:
* figure out why it's so important to them
*acknowledge their feelings and tend to them. Journaling can help

• Take note of disorders that can be mistaken for autism
• acknowledge that autism may still be a possibility with how many psychologists are going off outdated info and on stigmas. Also that even if it isn't autism you haven't hurt the autistic community by thinking you had it.

*breathe because if you struggling you struggling. Take note of symptoms that match autism and symptoms that match other disorders. Write down and document everything. If you can afford it get a second opinion. If not regardless you'll need to find ways to accomadate issues you are having.
*talk to the autistic community. We still can use allies even if you not autistic and if you are late diagnosed autistics can help a lot there. Plus we may be able to help with ideas to accomadate disability even if it's not autism.

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Oh and be sure to look into and understand masking. Very important. Lot of late diagnosed autistics mask a lot.

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And ignore people who say you just being trendy trying to find answers to your problems

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And ignore people who say you just being trendy trying to find answers to your problems

 

[IllusiveOwl]

At the other end of the array, one finds wankers like a couple of kin of mine who, after successful enough lives, seem almost proud to have found a quiz or a bored therapist friend who finally agreed, "OK, you're on the spectrum."

I once had a therapist tell me I was fine and that it was no longer nessecary for me to see her. It was then I found out that lots of "normal" fully functioning adults walk around with swirling black holes of misery and revulsion in their chest cavities, that its evidently a staple to grown-up existence to have life's natural course rip your heart out.

Thankfully it doesn't matter how you feel, you can act and be whoever you damn well please if you set the course and build the discipline to keep your hands on the wheel through the storm.

 

[voidcat]

I once had a therapist tell me I was fine and that it was no longer nessecary for me to see her. It was then I found out that lots of "normal" fully functioning adults walk around with swirling black holes of misery and revulsion in their chest cavities, that its evidently a staple to grown-up existence to have life's natural course rip your heart out.

Thankfully it doesn't matter how you feel, you can act and be whoever you damn well please if you set the course and build the discipline to keep your hands on the wheel through the storm.

(Hugs) sorry to hear that was your experience.

That's all I can say there.