[Opinion] How to differentiate between dreams and astral plane?

[ThirdEyeWizard]

How do we know if we're dreaming, that is our subconscious sending us a message? And how can we tell the difference between that and actually being on the astral plane?

For example, are we always on the astral plane when we're dreaming? Because I read that dreams have many purposes.

For example, last night I had a dream that I was in a typical mall in southeast Asia. There was nothing particularly frightening or happy about it but it was just a fact. We were all getting ready to participate in this grant divination ritual ceremony.

I am new at this so I have a lot of questions. Thank you in advance for your help.

 

[Doorman]

Usually, all dreams take place in the Astral Plane. Only diference is that on dreams you are sleeping, and on meditation you are still awake.

While you are asleep, is much easier to travel, but also much harder to remember, while meditating is much harder to travel, but easier to remember. At least, that's how I view it.

Of course, there MANY layers, but is safe to say that anything that originates from your imagination comes in some degree from the Astral Plane.

 

[ThirdEyeWizard]

Thank you very much for clearing up my confusion, doorman. That's very helpful. I've been wondering about this.

 

[Ziran]

How do we know if we're dreaming, that is our subconscious sending us a message?

Pay attention to the feelings in the heart when the dream is recalled. Dreams are always a blend of significant events and images mixed with other completely insignificant details. When significant aspects of the dream are recalled, it will feel different than the insignificant details.

Also, the "message" in a significant dream usually comes at the end. The dreamer, describing the dream, will say something like: " ... that's it, that's all I remember." Or. There will be a harsh transition to another dream, or, they suddenly wake up. The harsh transition is like the punctuation at the end of a sentence, or, the over-and-out signal when using something like Morse code. It's the signal the subconscious is using to express : " end-of-transmission ". If that makes sense. The most important "crux" of the dream occurs at the end right before it fades rapidly to nothingness.

One way of imagining it is, the subconscious is communicating using something akin to smoke signals, but, with much more detail.

And how can we tell the difference between that and actually being on the astral plane?

For example, are we always on the astral plane when we're dreaming? Because I read that dreams have many purposes.

What is it you are expecting in regard to "astral"?

What is "actual" about it?

I'm not trying to be difficult. But it's important to clarify before answering further.

 

[Konsciencia]

I have a hard time distinguishing, the Lucide Dreams, and OBE'S

For example: I had a dream and within the dream I felt the vibration. Then, I was in the Astral Plane for a long time. Which is what I always wanted. But at the same time. It felt short. However, at first I couldn't tell if I was having an OBE. I asked my Soul if I had an OBE, and it said yes. It was fascinating.

 

[ThirdEyeWizard]

Do you remember how you got onto the astral plane? Is there something specific you did or just by force of will? And what exactly did you see or experience once in the astral plane? I'm reading a lot of books about astroprojection but I still haven't been able to do it yet. But I'm taking it slowly, all in good time.

 

[Konsciencia]

I am only allowed to access the Astral Plane with The Universe consent. In other words, when The Universe allows it to happen. However, whenever I set the intention to visualize myself out of my body. I get to see myself out of the body. But, it's not really OBE. It is just visualization. I had a couple of OBE's before. But they weren't enough to satisfy me. I really want to see what I am capable of in the Astral Realm, and what I can do. So far yet, I haven't access the realm since my last OBE which was recently.

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Do you remember how you got onto the astral plane? Is there something specific you did or just by force of will? And what exactly did you see or experience once in the astral plane? I'm reading a lot of books about astroprojection but I still haven't been able to do it yet. But I'm taking it slowly, all in good time.

I don't remember much of my last OBE. However, I can tell you pieces of it.

First, and foremost, if you are interested in OBE's. 3 things 1) Do not think about it at all. Let it come to you. 2) surrender to The Universe, let The Universe guide you. 3) play with your visualizations. For example: visualize yourself out of the body.

OK, so now, what I remember from this OBE was that I felt like I was floating, and that’s when I felt the vibration, and felt the split. Like if I was out of my body. All of a sudden, I was fighting some people with my superpowers. I was there for a long time. This was one of my OBE's that last. Which was fine with me. It was fascinating. It's what I wanted. To have longer lasting OBE's. It was fun. There were some people that I kinda knew in the real world. It felt, like I was training to see what I can do. I hope that answers your questions. God bless you!!

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Here's a visualization technique. I posted in the past.

[Tutorial] - The Target Technique

Hello everyone! I would like to share with you all, a wonderful easy and simple technique. This technique is for those who are as eager as I am, to achieve an Out of Body Experience or Astral Project.As taught by one of my pioneers of all time, William Buhlman. This technique is called The...

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[ThirdEyeWizard]

thanks, i'll take a look

 

[ArchonLynx]

I Personally been lucid dreaming & having conscious obes forever i use a odd method i meditate while laying down and tell my self to wake up after a hour i wake up roll over think of leaving my body and 10 minutes later after keeping myself relaxed as possible i just fall out my body upward. youll know you left your body you will get a falling feeling and have the urge to jump up just ignore it for a awhile and then open your minds eyes and travel

 

[Konsciencia]

I Personally been lucid dreaming & having conscious obes forever i use a odd method i meditate while laying down and tell my self to wake up after a hour i wake up roll over think of leaving my body and 10 minutes later after keeping myself relaxed as possible i just fall out my body upward. youll know you left your body you will get a falling feeling and have the urge to jump up just ignore it for a awhile and then open your minds eyes and travel

That is awesome!!! I only Lucid Dream or have OBE's only with The Universe's permission. I surrendered to it and that's why I can't do it alone.