Internal egregores?

[Wannabewizard]

It's clear that there is a lot to learn about Egregores, there are of some importance.
Is there a known case of Egregores possessing someone internally, rather than just laying on a tentacle such as you can see in vision?
Even more specific, is it possible that someone could cause trouble by casting one inside someone else?

 

[8Lou1]

it sounds stupid but i devour egregores when i want to learn from them or when im done with them. so yes its possible. whether its a wise thing to do like i do, im not sure. it always gives me energetic problems and sort of electric tingling on/in my body.

 

[darkphoenix]

Isn't it the same thing? Egregores are not "out there" in the first place; they're inside you, they get inside your mind. They absolutely do possess you, because you hook up to egregores from infancy/toddlerhood. Even if it's just the family egregore or the egregore that operates your community's value system and structure of religion (magical laws, spirit interfaces, etc).

When I'm disconnecting from an egregore, it's always an inside job and I change as a person.

 

[Mars]

Most people have multiple. Especially people on reddit or tumblr have them. Super nasty and I notice it everytime I talk with them its so fucking annoying.

 

[Wannabewizard]

That answers that then. Tricky one.

I was thinking, if it is from someone else's intention, is it really from your mind? Maybe a sort of co-projection.
This one is very clear to me, I have mentioned this one before. I will call it 'Sunny'.
It's rather annoying and possessive, seems to be from religion. I have to theorize a bit.
I don't want it messing with me, it's frequently a nuisance and gets into dream states.
It also seems to be connected to my mother and her 'prayers' for me to go back to religion, so a family connection is likely. I could swear that it is putting 'Jesus' thoughts in me. A lot.

If I was experienced enough I think re-purposesing would be good. I dont know if Egregores are sentient enough to feel pain regarding disposal and Morals.
I need it to stop bothering me and it's now apparent it's hindering my healing process. A bit like going back to an abusive spouse.
In fact I think I witnessed this behavior between my parents and religion. Yikes.
I'm getting a really strong picture of how all this went together. It's creepy.
Is it possible to pay to have someone take care of it?

 

[Mannimarco]

That answers that then. Tricky one.

I was thinking, if it is from someone else's intention, is it really from your mind? Maybe a sort of co-projection.
This one is very clear to me, I have mentioned this one before. I will call it 'Sunny'.
It's rather annoying and possessive, seems to be from religion. I have to theorize a bit.
I don't want it messing with me, it's frequently a nuisance and gets into dream states.
It also seems to be connected to my mother and her 'prayers' for me to go back to religion, so a family connection is likely. I could swear that it is putting 'Jesus' thoughts in me. A lot.

If I was experienced enough I think re-purposesing would be good. I dont know if Egregores are sentient enough to feel pain regarding disposal and Morals.
I need it to stop bothering me and it's now apparent it's hindering my healing process. A bit like going back to an abusive spouse.
In fact I think I witnessed this behavior between my parents and religion. Yikes.
I'm getting a really strong picture of how all this went together. It's creepy.
Is it possible to pay to have someone take care of it?

I've had a fair amount of experience with this type of thing. I've dealt with many such inner egregores during inner journeys into the subconcious. I have repurposed quite a few of them, but havent had any success repurposing religious ones. Certainly some of the religious experiences i had as a christian were in fact me interacting with these inner religious egregores. Its an ongoing process, but the consistant guidance I get is that the non religious ones are formed by unprocessed/unfelt emotions. The religious ones were all intractable in opposing me practicing magick of any kind, and had to be destroyed.
As for having someone else deal with it for you, some kinds of traditional shamanism apparently involve just that, the shaman journeying to/through the underworld to find the source of your problems and destroy them. In modern society, I'd be wary of having anyone poking around that deep inside my mind.

 

[Wannabewizard]

I think you have got it. If it cannot be repurposed, then it must go.
The 'Christian' Egregore phenomenon is deadly, stifles growth and is generally unpleasant, but it is quite capable of dumping large amounts of 'happy' should you ever go back to it. I dare say it did actually help at times, but only on its own terms to feed and gain more power.
About two years ago or so ago, everyone was down about some kind of cough or the other, and many where questioning 'Jesus' at the time. So not long after, the religious Egregores made there rounds again and cashed in on the affair, using it as an opportunity to bring back some disciples, with, what is after all, an insidious form of mind control.
I refused the 'offer', it was tough but I did it. It was dead set on getting me away from 'the occult', in other words, away from healing myself.
It did however, successfully manage to reconnect to my mother and stepfather, who went back to their folly after the crisis.

This makes any sort of interaction difficult, if not impossible, it is likely all based around silent disapproval and holding the tongue.

Do I really have to search online again for years to find yet another Shaman, Or can I just tell it to fuck off?
Have been doing so recently to disengage from it. Being respectful does not seem to work, so I must conclude it has no respect for me, therefore it is an enemy.
I set my will against it, it is time for it to go.
If there is anyone skilled and pure enough, I would like to get his done.