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There has been some conversation about this in LHP forum Thelema thread , I floated the idea of a split off for people to write of their experiences, some seemed agreeable , so here it is .
First, we need to make sure we are all referencing the same document , so I suggest this one ;
I had looked at it , youthfully 'played' with it and then ignored it . It wasnt until I was in my 20s that I got some good advise about balance ; ''You are SOOOOO Luna ... you should get some Solar to balance yourself . Try working with Liber Resh .''
That is when I started to approach it more seriously , and started noticing some interesting effects .
I will say more later , but for now , leave the floor open for contributions .
Interesting that you decided to open the thread —next time, Firetree, feel free to tag me in. I did say I wanted to follow this topic from the moment it was mentioned.
As for Liber Resh itself:
Most people treat it as a theatrical solar devotion, but that’s the surface layer.What actually matters is the operational structure it creates in the practitioner’s day:
regularized attention, solar anchoring, and a deliberate shift of state four times per cycle.
In my experience, the value isn’t in “adoration” but in the strategic re-alignment of the nervous system.
Resh works because it forces:
• pattern interruption,
• state calibration,
• disciplined self-positioning in time,
• and a stable internal hierarchy, where will overrides inertia.
When practiced correctly, it becomes less about Helios and more about commanding your own cognitive cycle.
That’s where the real effect starts — and where people who only see the ritual aesthetics tend to miss the point entirely.
Curious to hear how others here approached it beyond the symbolic layer.
Interesting that you decided to open the thread —next time, Firetree, feel free to tag me in. I did say I wanted to follow this topic from the moment it was mentioned.
As for Liber Resh itself:
Most people treat it as a theatrical solar devotion, but that’s the surface layer.What actually matters is the operational structure it creates in the practitioner’s day:
regularized attention, solar anchoring, and a deliberate shift of state four times per cycle.
So much to say on that one point .... later * Much below the surface here ! One thought I had yesterday is Resh is like making a magical circle with charged quarters , but building that up throughout each day .
After a while that 'deliberate shift of state ' ( supported by the 'body mudra' - 'assumption of God form ' ) is very present and observable .
Resh works because it forces:
• pattern interruption,
• state calibration,
• disciplined self-positioning in time,
• and a stable internal hierarchy, where will overrides inertia.
When practiced correctly, it becomes less about Helios and more about commanding your own cognitive cycle.
That’s where the real effect starts — and where people who only see the ritual aesthetics tend to miss the point entirely.
It took me some time of consistent and regular practice and related meditation to experience that . Persevere ! Do not accept early results as final outcomes
So much to say on that one point .... later * Much below the surface here ! One thought I had yesterday is Resh is like making a magical circle with charged quarters , but building that up throughout each day .
After a while that 'deliberate shift of state ' ( supported by the 'body mudra' - 'assumption of God form ' ) is very present and observable .
Indeed ! I may have even given myself a 'dose ' of eudamonia !
It took me some time of consistent and regular practice and related meditation to experience that . Persevere ! Do not accept early results as final outcomes
Ditto
* pressed for time , the sun is up and it looks beautiful out there in the garden/forest .... I am off and into it ! .... more later .
Your comparison to building a charged circle throughout the day is interesting —but I’m curious how you’re structuring that internally.
For me, the shift created by Resh isn’t primarily symbolic but functional:
it imposes a deliberate interruption of inertia, forces recalibration, and resets the practitioner’s internal hierarchy four times per cycle.
When those shifts accumulate, the system becomes self-reinforcing.
How do you map that process?
Is the ‘magical circle’ idea for you an energetic architecture, a cognitive framework, or something else entirely?
Your comparison to building a charged circle throughout the day is interesting —but I’m curious how you’re structuring that internally.
For me, the shift created by Resh isn’t primarily symbolic but functional:
it imposes a deliberate interruption of inertia, forces recalibration, and resets the practitioner’s internal hierarchy four times per cycle.
When those shifts accumulate, the system becomes self-reinforcing.
How do you map that process?
Is the ‘magical circle’ idea for you an energetic architecture, a cognitive framework, or something else entirely?
Just a simple whimsical observation I got recently ; rather insignificant to the rest ( which I well detail as time goes on .... I hoped not to 'flood' this topic but would like others with experience to contribute .
Next (later ) I would like to write about how (generally ) doing all four a day ... one of them is going to break into your sleep cycle
The first point I would like to make is about long term practice . At first when encountering the text I would read it . Later I would play with it doing a bit of 'practice' . After, when it was recommended I started to learn it . After that I could put it into practice . Seems obvious but not for all .... each of these is very different from the other .
Then the length of practice comes into it . Do anything for a week and you will get 'results' of some type . Longer and more or 'other' results ... longer still ... and so on .
Practice was , long term , 'fractured' on and off . I did, at one stage go on a 'retreat ' - I was house sitting and had a good magical retirement space for 4 months ... I became dedicated to do it 4 X day every day . That in itself is an interesting exercise ... for anything . After that , I did it most of the time , but I was not as 'rigid' with it as this period . That continued for a few years . Then the 'final dynamic' kicked in and things changed .
And I also think , you do any ritual or any thing , 4 times a day, every day for months on end 'something' is going to happen . So there is that powerful dynamic .... 'regular practice ' .
( I will leave this here atm, I dont want to make huge long posts and again want to leave space for others ( some said they would like to post on this subject ...... '' Calling all Reshers ... come in please .''
( next I will write about the 4 x a day aspect and breaking the sleep cycle )
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Most probably , many people will be asleep either during midnight or at dawn . So you have to 'wake yourself up' to do at least one of these practices . Living in the country and close to nature , it was natural to , 'early to bed and early to rise' .... I would awake 'naturally' on dawn and start my day with morning Resh ( and I found it is a great way to start the day ; greeting the Sun and is starts to come over the horizon ) .
So this means waking up at midnight . No probs , set my alarm clock .
Stage 1 . The alarm goes off , I get up , a bit 'sleepy' / disoriented .... do the Midnight Resh and go back to bed .
2. The alarm goes off , I get up 'more aware' and alert , do the Resh , with a more focused 'meditation' at the end .
3. I begin to realize I am actually awake , but in a sleep-like state , as I am awake when the alarm goes off . I do Resh .
4. I wake up alert ... why ? Then the alarm goes off ... Oh ! That is why I woke up . ... and do Resh .
5. Now I am waking up 'by myself ' , then the alarm goes off . Ha ! ..... feeling proud of myself now - I have trained myself to know when midnight is happening . So I ditch the clock .
6 . Now waking up by myself , alert , do Resh and have no trouble going straight back to sleep ..... but then ;
7 . I wake up in the morning and realize I cant remember if I did Resh or not ! So I start leaving myself a little sign . Sometimes that confused or misplaced or ... so I started leaving a note . That too got confused as a few times I was ; Is this last nights note or a previous one ? So I started dating them ; ' I did Midnight Resh dd/mm//yy '
8. Now it starts getting weird ; I wake up in the morning , have no memory whatsoever of being awake and doing it, yet there is the note in the morning, in my hand, dated , on the bed side table .
Sometimes the note affirmed ; ' I am fully awake and conscious , I know I am forgetting this in my 'normal awake state ' , Yet here I am , fully conscious, writing and performing Resh .' It was a surprise to read that note one morning !
Then I started to question myself ; who is 'this guy ' waking up in the middle of the night and doing all this , that my normal daily self has no memory of .
And further ! ... Who is this guy , that is walking around conscious all day, not remembering and not being aware of ( if not for the notes ) his own 'midnight magical self ' ?
And further still ; is this practice and this effect ( this is just one effect I noticed out of many ) have any significance in maintaining part of awareness and 'being able to awake ' or 'remember to awake ' , after death ?
( Following on from this was work on consciously controlling dreams while in the dreaming state . )
Regarding length of time - a year of steady, outdoor and on time adorations in the same geographic region provided an opportunity for direct insight into nature and the yearly solar cycle, and how they are connected to the daily solar cycle. This opened up new mediations on those.
Which opened up the concept of the celestial calendar for me through direct observation.
It may have began with looking at the night sky during midnight Resh and noticing the position of Ursa Major at solstices and equinoxes.
Leading to remarking the midnight culmination of stars in general. This led to mediations on solar relationship with seasons and astrological metaphors from their influence and correspondences with biological life in a safe zone of manifestation in changing relationships.
That lead to meditations on how the same on other planets with similar steady, changing relationships can support life.
Then Resh became about doing it in sync between Earth and every planet that has/had/will have life and the same corresponding qualities. This led to incarnational mediations and how these cycles appear on the inner planes along different extensions of spacetime in a hyperdimensional model.
Am I the only person who could never do this ritual regularly? I tried, but time simply doesn't exist in my experience of reality. Even with alarms/reminders it just doesn't work if in the exact moment I am busy and can't immediately pause what I'm doing, because I will immediately forget about the ritual. The concept doesn't make sense to me anyway, as my chronotype doesn't align with the sun at all. There is no such regularity in my life and I think that is okay. For me that is the natural state of being. And, if I may say so, skipping this practice hasn't stopped me from becoming a successful magician.
Even with alarms/reminders it just doesn't work if in the exact moment I am busy and can't immediately pause what I'm doing, because I will immediately forget about the ritual.
The concept doesn't make sense to me anyway, as my chronotype doesn't align with the sun at all. There is no such regularity in my life and I think that is okay. For me that is the natural state of being. And, if I may say so, skipping this practice hasn't stopped me from becoming a successful magician.
Of course ... never doing the Abremalin Ritual didnt stop me either . But thanks for your contribution - this thread is about experience with the ritual , and that can include difficulties in performance or practice ... or even 'unsuitability ' .
Am I the only person who could never do this ritual regularly? I tried, but time simply doesn't exist in my experience of reality. Even with alarms/reminders it just doesn't work if in the exact moment I am busy and can't immediately pause what I'm doing, because I will immediately forget about the ritual. The concept doesn't make sense to me anyway, as my chronotype doesn't align with the sun at all. There is no such regularity in my life and I think that is okay. For me that is the natural state of being. And, if I may say so, skipping this practice hasn't stopped me from becoming a successful magician.
If the lack of responses are any indication it appears the vast majority of people can't do this ritual regularly.
That simply overcoming the mundane difficultly of prioritizing(re:making sacrifices) and scheduling is too much. That condition isn't unique to just this ritual, however.
There may be other factors that a beginner might not consider which could make the ingress to regular salutations more difficult than it needs to be. For example, within the period of stillness during the solstices at mid latitude it can be physically and psychologically demanding; the much shortened period of time between dawn and dusk for weeks can interrupt sleep. It's at times like that where the benefits of Jugorum shine on the path to keep one on it by reducing reflexivity and noise that contributes to avoidance.
