Masturbatory Meditation

[Jarhyn]

So, I'm curious whether anyone else has experimented before with trying to get a "raw handle" on one's "pleasure button" that doesn't involve the front door.

I have been trying off and on for a few years to reliably induce "tingles" and "feeling good" without the touching occasionally having successes that have been forgotten, and have recently been making progress there in memorability.

Mostly, it seems like there's a sentinel between "here" where my agency core lives and "there" where the neural linkage happens to feed energy into the machine. To get it to work that sentinel seems to need to be distracted, but I'm willing to bet that sentinel prevents more than just on-demand triggering of pleasure.

I'm sure this has been studied and discussed somewhere in more detail?

 

[Yazata]

I am not sure if it's what you mean and I suspect it's different for biological men and women, but to me this is very much linked to the "nofap"
Imagination alone without touch is the way I do most of the time.

 

[8Lou1]

All i know is that at one point in time it wasnt allowed/appreciated anymore in several chatrooms and forums with shout/chatboxes. It was a nice way of working though. Bit shameless, true but for people like us quite safe as it is no touchy and all energy.

 

[Jarhyn]

I am not sure if it's what you mean and I suspect it's different for biological men and women, but to me this is very much linked to the "nofap"
Imagination alone without touch is the way I do most of the time.

Hmmm. This is less imagination like "sexy time porno whatever" and more imagination like "physical therapy that makes my °°° feel good."

There's something inside that I am pressing at "neuronally". If you ever look at the map of a real brain and what the neurons seem to do according to study, if you look at the brain like a globe, it has a long trench running along it like an equator.

At the top near the crown, right along the border of this crease, on each side, this is generally where the "sensation/motion" stacks are for various body parts. There's an angle from where "I" am in there that I have to find, a particular "way" of the ways I can request, and I have had to in some way assert authority over the sentinel to move it aside and get access.

While he is an awful rapist piece of shit, the initial knowledge that stuff like this was possible came to me through hearing of a particular porn star who could ejaculate on command, may his name be forgotten and his deeds remembered as despicable.

 

[Mider2009]

I’ve heard you can focus your passion...I guess this can help?

personally don’t do that, it can get spirit parasites to feed on your negative emotions

 

[Jarhyn]

So, a little more investigation. It seems I can trigger various sensations in this way, in various places. Normal sensation happened when I manipulated "left side sentinel" and sent to the left/center, and I got some actual pain to start after calling aside the "right side sentinel" (which also stepped, perceptually, left), and directing the sensation onto "the right side".

Later I'm going to do some experiments with masking off sensations and see how that goes.

 

[Jarhyn]

Ok, did a lot more poking around and it seems like some sort of Kinesthetic Sense of the structure of inside my head is materializing. It's almost like a controller, albeit with two "bulbs", and then a... It's like a road cut, I guess? It's two hemispheres coming together. The round parts are inside the masses on either side. If I were to mentally locate my consciousness away from my eyes, they are "behind my eyes", like a void behind a screen.

Anyway, on the peaks of the "roadcut", I can apply selection and then on the "bulbs" I have to apply another selection. When I do this I get a location selected by the roadcut part, and a sensation selected by where on the bulbs I prod.

The centers of the bulbs seem to mitigate or cancel the effects, the left hand bulb deals with most of the fun/normal sensations and the right hand bulb seems to deal with the pains. The side of the valley seems to correspond to the side of the body, and I think the actual orientation is physically mirrored, so the front of the valley points towards the back of the head, but is perceived as the other way.

 

[8Lou1]

Might be how mothers have eyes in the back of their heads. (dutch saying)
What does the frontal lobe do? I had a being (most prob a human vampire with a different alignment then me) taking seat there. I lured him out, but now it feels like i lost connection with the functions of the lobe. I might be wrong though, but when i work on this stuff myself it is like a different place of being and since i for starters didnt understand being human at all and ive also been possessed in a very aggressive way, im not sure what is humanly possible.

 

[Nana]

The conscious mind is but one facet of the human being and it is neither the most important nor the most enduring. Cultivating the ability to have the various "Intelligences" (thank you Dr Schwallier de Lubitz for this useful vocabulary) surrender authority of their purviews to one another is useful but the usurpation of this authority is decidedly unhealthy.
Accessing and informing our biological processes is an excellent example of self mastery and the mastery of our environments but it takes little imagination to foresee the perils and pitfalls of only being able to breathe or pulsate with conscious intervention.
This said, I find the current conversation intriguing on so many levels and it is validating to see others articulate your theories and observations in their own words.

 

[Jarhyn]

The conscious mind is but one facet of the human being and it is neither the most important nor the most enduring. Cultivating the ability to have the various "Intelligences" (thank you Dr Schwallier de Lubitz for this useful vocabulary) surrender authority of their purviews to one another is useful but the usurpation of this authority is decidedly unhealthy.
Accessing and informing our biological processes is an excellent example of self mastery and the mastery of our environments but it takes little imagination to foresee the perils and pitfalls of only being able to breathe or pulsate with conscious intervention.
This said, I find the current conversation intriguing on so many levels and it is validating to see others articulate your theories and observations in their own words.

But in the other side, being able to give and take, and often share with those systems, not to complete mastery over, but in community with, so as to achieve interesting goals.

To have a contract with one's breath: to know the moment of calm before the trigger pulls.

To have a contract with one's heart: be calm and measured, only for a little bit... Only until the Bang surprises you...

Well, these are a certain kind of terrifying power.

I acknowledge that having a lever on some things is dangerous, but like, I'm a sexual freak so as it turns out this is part of an arrangement I have with... Well, it's part of a common goal that "all the demons in hell" are regardless not party to, but best I can tell mostly neutral towards? Most everyone else in here is positively on board.

It's complicated.

 

[Nana]

But in the other side, being able to give and take, and often share with those systems, not to complete mastery over, but in community with, so as to achieve interesting goals.

To have a contract with one's breath: to know the moment of calm before the trigger pulls.

To have a contract with one's heart: be calm and measured, only for a little bit... Only until the Bang surprises you...

Well, these are a certain kind of terrifying power.

I acknowledge that having a lever on some things is dangerous, but like, I'm a sexual freak so as it turns out this is part of an arrangement I have with... Well, it's part of a common goal that "all the demons in hell" are regardless not party to, but best I can tell mostly neutral towards? Most everyone else in here is positively on board.

It's complicated.

Nope, I completely get you. But exploration without caution is how every H.P. Lovecraft story starts. And ends.

 

[DiLoco_DelEted]

The only things I do as of late due to scaring off the opposite sex, is to:
Practice breathing foot to groin, then groin to heart
Practice urine stream/sphincter control, not only does this cause an errection but may stimulate the prostate. For women, I suppose these would be Kegel exercises. Done long enough can induce orgasm, not necessarily ejaculation however.
There is also a perineum tap method, which some dude on usenet used to be all about. Apparently it can be a form of divination at some point.

 

[Konsciencia]

I have to try this... It sounds interesting! Thanks for posting that Jarhyn!

 

[Nana]

While there are no vodou practices in this area that I would share with strangers on line, I do practice Jade Dragon Taoist solo Techniques.

 

[league_ma_balls]

Yes it can be done with proper focus. Egyptian sex Magick was huge on the issue of that type of energy

 

[Öwnchef]

Egyptian sex Magick

No magick in that. But Cleopatra was buried with her vibrator, a clay tube in which they found dead bees.

 

[league_ma_balls]

No magick in that. But Cleopatra was buried with her vibrator, a clay tube in which they found dead bees.

Last i recall on the archaeology news, Cleopatra tomb with Anthony has not been found yet. Also remember that the goddess Isis, was the Egyptian goddess of fertility. Remember "Sacred Sexuality" acknowledges that our life force and our sexual energy originate from the same source. It's an expression of awe and wonder that transcends any particular culture. Sex is sacred because of its role in bonding.

 

[Öwnchef]

Last i recall on the archaeology news, Cleopatra tomb with Anthony has not been found yet. Also remember that the goddess Isis, was the Egyptian goddess of fertility. Remember "Sacred Sexuality" acknowledges that our life force and our sexual energy originate from the same source. It's an expression of awe and wonder that transcends any particular culture. Sex is sacred because of its role in bonding.

Archaeologically they found the tomb of Jesus. No, wait. They said that can't be. Because, err, the Israel Antiquities Authority said so. Without looking at it. Children could fall in there, they said. Case (and grave) closed.

Despite finding a temple dedicated to Cleo and Anthony with 6 burial chambers, the Authorities just said no. Can't be.

Isis brings light, sex and life. Oh yeah. But where is Nephthys, my dark sister? What did you do to her? No Authority can claim she doesn't exist, can they? People are in for comforting lies. But the world is bigger and facts do not vanish because of sheer ignorance.

 

[league_ma_balls]

@Öwnchef I agree I forgot Nephthys mention. I agree she needs to be mentioned. Yes I agree we can't believe Antiquities department either. They have lied forever. Oh wait there are no tunnels under the Giza. You're right they lied forever. How do we really know if they or haven't found anything.

 

[Mider2009]

I’ve been told it’s best to avoid masterbation on my chosen path