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I quite fancy a good Psalter with clear print, references and easy to find sections, Ideally with a reference that gives lists of the traditional use of psalms.
I will keep notes in a separate book.
I find writing the intention down every time, even of the same thing day after day helpful to make a connection.
Really like Pater Amadeus Psalm PDF.
Gothic font is probably too far for clarity.
Can I get some recommends for a Psalter?
I cannot recommend this one highly enough. It has both English and Hebrew as well as a good amount of traditional and kabbalistic commentary for each Psalm.
That being said, if you are looking for one that provides more in-depth study, then look for the 2 Volume edition of Artscroll's Tehillim (new translation with commentaries from traditional sources).
I absolutely do not recommend any published by a Christian denomination or author. Especially the Catholic church.
I have to say the KJV psalms, the best fonts/easy to read, good letter size & style, I've ever found were in the KJV bibles, yes they are a bit heavy since they include old and new testaments but the fonts and text sizes were perfect. Most bigger book stores, even in the non English speaking countries have a few soft and hardcover KJV bibles for sale.
I've seen exactly what you mentioned in a random book store, clear print, references and easy to find sections, it was just a black hardcover KJV bible I could be wrong but I think it was by Thomas Nelson.
A bit out of topic perhaps but a rather strange coincidence. Pater Amadeus, wait, what? There's another psalm spammer who has the same Amadeus nickname, and even some triangle symbol, lol? I found his website, I can't believe it
Yeh, how about that, and the synchronicity of the fire triangle is remarkable!
After discovering Ariel Gatoga's work, I was hungry for an easy, all in one reference that told me what to work in order without having to trawl through videos.
They can work perfectly well through my interpretation, though knowing what Angel is attached is good.
Agree with not buying anything Christian. It's probably whack. Some of the opinions are interesting and progressive like Martin Zender, who actually studies the scriptures (concordant literal translation) rather than merely accepting the doctrines. Also of note is Mark virkler, who realised that you cannot hold all divine wisdom in one book.
I doubt either would be into spells, however.
I stealthily gave a load of books away to a church who keep a telephone box as a library. They won't know how they got there and there are some really spicy contested topics (like exorcism), if you have to pull a book apart that much to find the useful bits, it's really not that good.
If your an occultist you probably know it anyway, as churches are late to the party.
The Bible is not christian and the Psalm's are not Jewish. Gasp!
I like it though.
All goes way back, pre-egyption apparently.
Sumarian, Babylonian, first alien contact?
I will hunt down copies of these tomes, thank you.
I was looking for a name for the forum and I thought Amadeus might a good, the maestro of madness, since my techniques are about spamming things. The triangle I chose it because I like using geometric shapes as avatars, something like a triangle, pentagram or whatever mixed. At first I chose a tiger in flames, made AI art, then just the triangle, unfortunately for some reason I could not get it in the center here. Quite surprising because I never heard about that guy before.
I was also recommended to check the Ariel Gatoga's channel and I think I found some interesting videos. I don't really check it often.
One I had, but unfortunately it was too old and broken, it was some Oxford Scofield KJV reference bible. The psalms part was OK.
Ariel's story gave me hope that there is a way to recover from abuse and it doesn't mean clinging to religion which specializes in it's own brand of trauma when taken literally.
I have a stack of large print bibles and concordances, too many really. I keep 'Christian' reference material around in case I get the chance to de-convert religion to spirituality, which is preferable over abandoning it completely, that seems to be the polarizing way that is so common. I am still receiving revelation about the magical meaning of the Apostle Paul's letter, that is there if you have some experience with magical things and an open mind.
I feel really blessed to have found this forum after years of agonizing unanswered questions.
The bible is about spamming God with prayer to get results, the words of Christ even say this. Regardless of your view point of the Christian stuff, it is a universal truth that persistence pays.
It feels very therapeutic and does not rely on getting it perfect all at once, for those that struggle with many things it is a good way to get things done.
I have slipped in intention and received some warning, it makes it possible to correct course before it is too late.
I do wish I could have started earlier when I felt called to do it, particularly the purification Psalms.
Those should really have been done first, I may still need to do more, like weeding a garden.
I have experienced lots of blockages that need clearing internally before any external work.
As for when something is complete, I still would like to be sure when a spell is done, even if there are no tangible results yet, knowing when to move on to something else is important.
I am a little uncertain with all these brilliant visions.
Indication is about three days for single spell.
What does it feel like when your sure something is done?
Maybe your just keep going until you see it?
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Ariel's story gave me hope that there is a way to recover from abuse and it doesn't mean clinging to religion which specializes in it's own brand of trauma when taken literally.
I have a stack of large print bibles and concordances, too many really. I keep 'Christian' reference material around in case I get the chance to de-convert religion to spirituality, which is preferable over abandoning it completely, that seems to be the polarizing way that is so common. I am still receiving revelation about the magical meaning of the Apostle Paul's letter, that is there if you have some experience with magical things and an open mind.
I feel really blessed to have found this forum after years of agonizing unanswered questions.
The bible is about spamming God with prayer to get results, the words of Christ even say this. Regardless of your view point of the Christian stuff, it is a universal truth that persistence pays.
It feels very therapeutic and does not rely on getting it perfect all at once, for those that struggle with many things it is a good way to get things done.
I have slipped in intention and received some warning, it makes it possible to correct course before it is too late.
I do wish I could have started earlier when I felt called to do it, particularly the purification Psalms.
Those should really have been done first, I may still need to do more, like weeding a garden.
I have experienced lots of blockages that need clearing internally before any external work.
As for when something is complete, I still would like to be sure when a spell is done, even if there are no tangible results yet, knowing when to move on to something else is important.
I am a little uncertain with all these brilliant visions.
Indication is about three days for single spell.
What does it feel like when your sure something is done?
Maybe your just keep going until you see it?
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Ariel's story gave me hope that there is a way to recover from abuse and it doesn't mean clinging to religion which specializes in it's own brand of trauma when taken literally.
I have a stack of large print bibles and concordances, too many really. I keep 'Christian' reference material around in case I get the chance to de-convert religion to spirituality, which is preferable over abandoning it completely, that seems to be the polarizing way that is so common. I am still receiving revelation about the magical meaning of the Apostle Paul's letter, that is there if you have some experience with magical things and an open mind.
I feel really blessed to have found this forum after years of agonizing unanswered questions.
The bible is about spamming God with prayer to get results, the words of Christ even say this. Regardless of your view point of the Christian stuff, it is a universal truth that persistence pays.
It feels very therapeutic and does not rely on getting it perfect all at once, for those that struggle with many things it is a good way to get things done.
I have slipped in intention and received some warning, it makes it possible to correct course before it is too late.
I do wish I could have started earlier when I felt called to do it, particularly the purification Psalms.
Those should really have been done first, I may still need to do more, like weeding a garden.
I have experienced lots of blockages that need clearing internally before any external work.
As for when something is complete, I still would like to be sure when a spell is done, even if there are no tangible results yet, knowing when to move on to something else is important.
I am a little uncertain with all these brilliant visions.
Indication is about three days for single spell.
What does it feel like when your sure something is done?
Maybe your just keep going until you see it?
The purification psalms? To be honest the weeding garden effect is best felt with the whole psalm book reading method. The single ones do have an effect but it's not so potent strategy, unless you do them in hundreds. I've used every possible method I could think of to work with the ps and blasting all of them gave the best effect. It cleans, clears, removes blockades in a huge way, you can feel how it dissolves something. Some of the more random strategies can lead to quite bad instability feeling, chaotic mess. Bad experiences with that. You could make some kind of an organized system though that could be beneficial. That's the interesting thing to do, experimentation! A personal perfect system that suits you. Also this can change very fast or after months, years. Perhaps one strategy that you disliked suddenly starts working incredibly well. This does require some tedious experiments over a very long period of time.
The KJV is an excellent choice if you can stand the old language, I personally prefer the more modern ones but once in a while I experiment with the KJV too. Many people say that the KJV gives them the best connection, most energy. I guess it's the most read PS version?
The feeling when something is done? Spiritually there are some interesting states. You feel something special and or get a great result, something that you expected, a perfect outcome.
The clearing garden plan needs a lot of raw force to be applied. Almost like purification through fire that burns the weeds, seeds get planted and suddenly there's a beautiful new garden. The gate to the garden opens and nothing stands in the way, while you walk through and admire the beauty.
That's what I had in mind including burning all the weed seeds, the seeds being the demonic/thought forms that try to regrow. The more complex the trauma the more difficult it is to clear out.
Reminds me a lot of the secret garden novel, though I saw a movie/series, and there is a boy on a bed freaking out complaining about a lump on his back. It is somatic, but it does not say this, I know what it is. There is an actual pain, but it is non physical. To get to the root of this is very trying and takes effort, but it can be done, that is what I am doing in a Psalmic way. The secret garden is a healing process.
That's my take on it.
It's the best thing I have right now to work with.
Is the whole psalm book reading method all 150 with the same cleansing intention, I think thats what you mean?
Would they all be used with the same cleansing intention, or several intentions throughout?
I must have miss read that PDF, with the purification psalms I went through them in the order presented, one each day, rather than spamming the same purification Psalm for seven days. Like you say, the effects are there but chaotic.
Chaos can be used though. Chaos Psalms?
I was defiantly getting something loosed up, accompanied by visions. It is supposed to clear out junk, with the most serious version being seven times a day for seven days. I would love to do that, but it's hard enough to do what I can right now.
To think in military terms , I am operating in guerilla warfare tactics to get started, there has been so much crap that 150 psalms in order seems unrealistic when I need a surgical strike, then I can run a campaign.
I know what power feels like, I have launched spells/prayers as though they were missiles before, but there is internal resistance to pulling myself together.
It is odd as in an emergency, I find myself pulled together automatically like a machine and and magical psalm functions in me come on line, but to will it is challenging.
I have had confirmation of what is happening in dreams, even well in advance.
Most of my results are further down the line and involve unexpected changes, but powerful and significant.
Now If I could do that every time, being sure that I am cleaned out, I would like that.
There is a lot of changing thought patterns and habits involved, dedication.
I like KJV language, it is poetry. It takes a little bit of forthought if your sensative to the word 'Lord', but it's not religious, it's the expression of source in all things. Poetry itself is powerfull, with a poetic heart it can do great things.
The garden for me, is the garden of the heart that needs tending. Sometimes with a weed wand
I mean to get this done once and for all.
Yes with the cleansing intention or leave all the personal requests out. The special effect of it does it anyway. The perfect melody, comparing it to a musical masterpiece that includes everything, perfect beginning & end. It is like pressing 150 buttons in a perfect order one by one until they all turn on and something special happens. It makes sense after you spend a few weeks doing it, perhaps on and off for a few months.
With just a few and random, the chaos effect happens at some point, not right away. Reading them in a very random order or focusing on one more than others somehow leads to it. It does not happen when the numbers are low, reading maybe 10-20 pages a day does not give it, although people are different and you never know for certain what happens. I remember aiming for at least 100/150 pages worth a day by reading them randomly and focusing on selected ones. At some point I was tilted, angry, in a chaotic state almost 24/7. I still kept going and then I switched back to full readings, mind went better. While the excessive overload of energy from the full readings may do strange stuff too, this was far worse. Comparing it with the 150 buttons example, you hit one button too many times. The melody turns into noise. The chaos makes it almost unbearable, then at some point it messes up the third eye in a way that you feel uncomfortable for weeks. These are some scenarios that you might encounter, depending on what you do. No worries though, later on it feels easy.
The random readings lack a systematic approach, they can be effective for a while though. They still do somewhat clear the garden and train your stamina, endurance but you might end up having quite bad overall states for weeks. The question about weird side effects is not about, is it going to happen or not but more like when and how, all people go through something.
For clearing the garden, you can also use the bookmark method. Reading as much as possible every day and going through the thing round by round, some prefer this method. If you want to do the ultimate clearance, then the double round method does it even faster. Some days all 150, then 2x150. It's the ultimate overkill method. For this your full rounds have to take 2 hours, else it's too much per day. 2x2 morning evening. 50 pages/hour, round being 100.
Yes the word Lord in there. I use ps books that have the word Lord or Jehowah. There is a difference between the effect, the one with Jehowah gives me a more fierce blazing feeling. It's the old language in KJV that annoys me, thy thou, words like that. I can't stand reading it for long, it literally drives me nuts.
Wait, what pdf, miss read what? You mean about the side effects? I think most of the books about the use of PS don't even speak about that.
I cannot recommend this one highly enough. It has both English and Hebrew as well as a good amount of traditional and kabbalistic commentary for each Psalm.
That being said, if you are looking for one that provides more in-depth study, then look for the 2 Volume edition of Artscroll's Tehillim (new translation with commentaries from traditional sources).
I absolutely do not recommend any published by a Christian denomination or author. Especially the Catholic church.
Why wouldn’t you recommend one published by the Catholic Church? I have read King James Version ( although the language is hard I have strong effects from it) and the New community Bible version which is a Catholic Bible
. I got a Bible from my church a few years ago and found the language much easier to understand so I can acatually read and comprehend. I also found a psalter kind of a mini book of the psalms and New Testament. I do want to try an art scroll version to read tehillim to see if the energy is different.
I cannot recommend this one highly enough. It has both English and Hebrew as well as a good amount of traditional and kabbalistic commentary for each Psalm.
That being said, if you are looking for one that provides more in-depth study, then look for the 2 Volume edition of Artscroll's Tehillim (new translation with commentaries from traditional sources).
I absolutely do not recommend any published by a Christian denomination or author. Especially the Catholic church.
I highly recommend reading the Psalter, especially an Orthodox Psalter. The Psalms are divided into 20 Kathismas(sittings) which are then read throughout the week. Every week the entirety of the Psalms are read throughout the Liturgical practices in Vespers and Matins.
The Bible is not christian and the Psalm's are not Jewish. Gasp!
I like it though.
All goes way back, pre-egyption apparently.
Sumarian, Babylonian, first alien contact?
I will hunt down copies of these tomes, thank you.
Genesis and Job are pretty much the only texts which can be traced before the Hebrews arrived in Canaan. Even then, it is only speculation at best.
However, the Psalms are documented well throughout the majority of the Tanakh, well attested too. I would like to see your sources for the contrary, though I am extremely skeptical.
highly recommend reading the Psalter, especially an Orthodox Psalter. The Psalms are divided into 20 Kathismas(sittings) which are then read throughout the week. Every week the entirety of the Psalms are read throughout the Liturgical practices in Vespers and Matins.
Orthodox ones, they contain some other additional things between the kathismas. Unnecessary additional stuff like "Glory be, alleluia". I found this to be very annoying when I tried to do some entire book readings. I understand they can be useful to some people. The Old Church Slavonic one I have has even more stuff but I'm not quite sure what since I can only spell out the words without understanding much. Sometimes I experiment with the kathismas because of the additional effect, I still prefer the plain 1 to 150 without anything added in between.
They give a much different effect. For me they break the PS book into parts in a way that becomes annoying.
I highly recommend reading the Psalter, especially an Orthodox Psalter. The Psalms are divided into 20 Kathismas(sittings) which are then read throughout the week. Every week the entirety of the Psalms are read throughout the Liturgical practices in Vespers and Matins.
Genesis and Job are pretty much the only texts which can be traced before the Hebrews arrived in Canaan. Even then, it is only speculation at best.
However, the Psalms are documented well throughout the majority of the Tanakh, well attested too. I would like to see your sources for the contrary, though I am extremely skeptical.
I personally use the HTM Psalter from Holy Cross Monastery because I am accustomed to it. However, with the acquisition of the Anthologion, I am transitioning to the St. Ignatius Press Anthologion which contains the Psalter in sequence to the Kathismas.
There are a few Orthodox Psalters available and the standard is going to be what you find comfortable in translation. Considering the Psalter is taken from the Septuagint, little is different per translation.
I highly recommend reading the Psalter, especially an Orthodox Psalter. The Psalms are divided into 20 Kathismas(sittings) which are then read throughout the week. Every week the entirety of the Psalms are read throughout the Liturgical practices in Vespers and Matins.
Genesis and Job are pretty much the only texts which can be traced before the Hebrews arrived in Canaan. Even then, it is only speculation at best.
However, the Psalms are documented well throughout the majority of the Tanakh, well attested too. I would like to see your sources for the contrary, though I am extremely skeptical.
Sorry about that, I can't back it up. Felt off when I wrote it.
The point I wanted to make is that I don't like exclusivity and would like to know the origins for sure rather than just hear say.
I have heard about psalms being Egyption and older.
Sorry about that, I can't back it up. Felt off when I wrote it.
The point I wanted to make is that I don't like exclusivity and would like to know the origins for sure rather than just hear say.
I have heard about psalms being Egyption and older.
Some things deserve further research but some things kind of disintegrate with a modicum of thought. There are Egyptian influences all over Hebrew poetry but the Psalms being Egyptian? Huh? Why would the Egyptians write hymns celebrating the destruction of their pharaoh and his army by a foreign god? Why would Egyptian poets get all worked up about (for them) obscure bits of geography in Canaan?
Sorry about that, I can't back it up. Felt off when I wrote it.
The point I wanted to make is that I don't like exclusivity and would like to know the origins for sure rather than just hear say.
I have heard about psalms being Egyption and older.
I delved into the Egyptian influences within the context specific to Tehillim textual source. A handful of verses in Psalm 104 shows parallels to an Egyptian Great Hymn to Aten. Focuses of course have changed, wording is similar. However nothing shows the Psalm is outright stolen but, at most, a simple influence. Psalm 104 is also associated with King David and not Moses.
To note, the same minute influences are also found in Torah among some of prayers and titles of the Lord by Moses. This shows that there was contact among the Hebrews and Egyptians in and from Egypt.
Damn. In looking into this, you made me drag out some works/baggage from Yeshiva which I never wanted to dust off. begins humming the Amidah
Dammit!
I personally use the HTM Psalter from Holy Cross Monastery because I am accustomed to it. However, with the acquisition of the Anthologion, I am transitioning to the St. Ignatius Press Anthologion which contains the Psalter in sequence to the Kathismas.
There are a few Orthodox Psalters available and the standard is going to be what you find comfortable in translation. Considering the Psalter is taken from the Septuagint, little is different per translation.
I could be wrong but I think it was by Thomas Nelson.
