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[Pearzonz1876]

I do apologize if any of these are inappropriate questions, I do not mean to offend or ask anything inappropriate, I just wish to learn is all. I get very nervous about asking questions regarding sensitive subject matter. I am also trying to limit my questions, but I have million different ones and not sure at all where to starts at all if I am being honest.

Questions:
Can white people use honey in spells and jars as an ingredient? Just one or the other? Is there even a difference?

Did white Europeans/ people steal the practice of honey from ATRS? What about the thieves vinegar? The person did say that there is plenty of stuff for white people to study, but I think the other stuff they said contradicts that. Maybe I interpreted what else they said wrongly?

Is all European practices / folk practices just stolen from other cultures/ practices?

Are spell jars / bottles stolen?

Trying to understand more, especially if I take inspiration for fiction/stories/ world building. I do not feel like it is my place to take inspiration from closed practices and or cultures as a white person. Would be okay if I were to take inspiration from something like four thieves vinegar and or anything else like it that as long as it originated from European folk magic / practices, but was later into Hoodoo and others ATRS? Assuming the stuff I have read is actually true and it wasn't just stolen from ATRS.

Would there be cultural appropriation when it comes to writing fictional characters, especially whites ones, making non magical medicines and such other things.



Is wicca / paganism just cultural appropriation?

Can white people use dance and music and or singing for their own magickal and or spiritual practices or is this something only in Vodou and or any other closed religions / practices?


These questions also apply to other roots and spirits and other such.


I like looking into things sometimes and I found out about High John the Conqueror and the imopea Jalapa.

I was curious if using the plant in a practice that is not voodoo and or hoodoo is okay. And I was also curious if drawing the plant and or drawing a character using the plant as an ingredient in something mundane and or spiritual and or magical is okay? Would anything happen at all if if one were to do that?

Purely out of curiosity: Would anything happen if a white person were to try and to pray to him at all? I remember reading that a practionor said that if a white person were to do that they would end up very hurt and or killed / dead because of the spirit.

Would it be okay to use the Jalapa plant / root and or any plant / root if it is connected to a hoodoo and or voodoo spirit and or deity in another practice that is not hoodoo and or voodoo?
What about for the purposes of fiction, story or fictional character, and or etc, that is not related to voodoo and or hoodoo? Example would be the fictional chracter making potions / elixirs / ointments / healing related things / making non healing related things / etc. Magical and or otherwise.


Does imagining using the root with magickal intention cause anything to happen? Or does it not matter?

Can one use roots in their own practices(that is not hoodoo and or voodoo)? Or is that exclusively to those practices? Would something happen if one were to do that?


Is the imopea jalapa inherently tied to the spirits without any ritual / magickal working at all?


Is talismens, charms, and bags / pouches bottles and or jars and etc only for / in hoodoo or is it in european folk magick as well? Ex. Mojo bag and other similar things

I just want to be sure as I do not want to take inspiration from closed practices, religions, cultures, and or etc for any fiction I wrote and or anything I may practice one day.



Can white people use plants in their practices?


Would using roots, plants, spices, herbs, leaves, grass, floweres, etc be dabbling in hoodoo and or voodoo just by using them if one were to use them in another practice where they might be used at all? What if it is used is a practice and or tradition that doesn't use them and or in a personal practice and or tradition made by one person? Like the High John The Conqueror root, the plants itself without the spirit / being imbued with the spirit / without calling on the spirit for the plant / root. Or is it so asscociated with the spirit that it should not be used by people who are not in hoodoo? What are others like this?

What about for medicinal purposes or non magickal purposes?

 

[HoldAll]

Questions. Don’t we all have them…

Seriously, you’ve asked a mix of general and highly detailled technical questions that should have gone into at least three different sub-forums. Posting a whole shopping list of them under a nondescript heading diminishes your chance of getting varied answers and starting any meaningful, focussed discussions.

 

[Van Horne]

Can white people

Define "white people".

 

[Pearzonz1876]

This ritual is very mature in nature and mentions other things like blood and self harm. Be careful if you read.

this a real ritual / ritual that works?

Does imagining any of the steps without actually doing / staring the ritual? Particularly the dark humanoid figure part.

What would happen if one were to try and worship / pray to / make an altar for / communicate to / draw / etc to the entity / shower man?

Would making a fictional character and or story based off of the vague humanoid figure and or the ritual itself cuase something to happen?

What do you make / think of posts of people saying they have played it?


Is there ways to protect oneself against the supposed entity aside from distance?


What do you think of the people who were in contact with pocket poncho before deleting her account?

What do you think of the comment from the original poster in the original nosleep / Reddit post?

Is the supposed entity all seeing and or all powerful and or all knowing and or etc?

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Would anything at all happen if one were to do any of the steps of the ritual without doing the entire ritual? Ex, the dark figure part. Would something still happen if one were to not yell / say anything out loud at all?

 

[Pearzonz1876]

I am so sorry for so many questions but I NEED them answered / debunked. PLEASE!!!!!!!
MOST IMPORTANT QUESTION:
Is this supposed story and supposed entity true and real?
Should the last line "Provided he even gives you a choice." Be takes seriously at all? What does this mean?

Should one take the furnace explosion seriously? I heard I should not take it seriously and or not put it belief into it at all.

Does it matter if you want it or not?

Why did the narrator have things happen to him if he had nothing to do with the creation? Was it because he worked in that current the same night the creation happened?

Could something / anything happen to someone who has never and will never work in that current and just hunks and reads about it?

How can one protect themself and others from it and or sever a connection they do not want?

How does one stop fearing the subject matter / supposed entity? How does one permanently forget about this forever?

Would one making a fire themed / related characters a year and month later cause there to be a connection if one did not know about the existence of the supposed entity? What if one did know about the supposed entity?

What would open if one made a fire related / themed / etc fictional character around and or at the same time that the supposed entity was made? Would anything happen at all? Would there be a connection at all?

Would there be a connection and or would anything happen if me were to make fire themed / related characters, fictions, etc, and or do fire themed / related things in real life or not in real life with the knowledge of this supposed entity?

Is this supposed entity all knowing and or all seeing and or all powerful?
Can this supposed entity kill people?

What do you make of / think of the people who supposedly almost died because of this supposed entity?

I have fire related / themed fictional characters that have been that's have similar and even the same colors(blue and orange) as the logo / sigil of the supposed entity. They were made a year and a day and month later than the supposed entity was.

Would anything happen and or would there be any
if I were to make anymore fire themed / related / etc fictional characters now that I know about this supposed egregore / speed entity?
Would anything happen at all and or is there a connection between my fictional character that is fire related / themed / etc since I made it a year and and couple of months and a few days after the supposed egregore / supposed entity was made / created?

Does having knowledge about the supposed egregore / supposed entity determine if there is a connection and or if anything would happen at all? How would one sever the connection and protect themselves and others that they know and or are around them from this supposed egregore / supposed entity?

Why / how did the supposed egregore / supposed entity become so powerful in just overnight? Has it become more powerful over time or maybe mellowed out so to speak and or become less powerful as time has gone on at all?

How to protect oneself and or others from and or / against the supposed entity?

How to permanently forget about this supposed entity and or / subject matter forever permanently?

For the sentence with the number three in parentheses after it. Should I and or anyone be worried at all as a person / people who were never involved? What happened to the other people involved and or not involved?

Can anyone possible find out?


Would anything happen if one were to draw a fire in front of a crescent moon shape like in the picture, a proper crescent moon, and or a full moon, possibly with a circle within the fire as well?

Would anything happen if one were to draw something / anything similar to the short handed emoticon that is pictured within the story?

Would a connection be formed by imagining the logo / symbol / sigil on a fictional characters? Especially fire related / themed / etc ones? Does it matter if it is involuntary or not?

would sayin the phrase to blaze him is to praise cause anything to happen at all?

would saying the name / title cause anything to happen at all if one knows about this speed egregore / supposed entity?

Would anything happen I I said wanted their to connection but in reality I did not want there to be any at all?


Would anything happen just by mere thinking about, speaking / discussing, writing, reading / seeing, and or drawing the sigil / logo of the supposed entity and or the supposed entity itself?

Would there be any connection at all if one were to make a fire related / themed / etc fictional character one the same day(s) when if the supposed egregore / supposed entity was made / created? Would knowledge of the supposed egregore / supposed entity change this at all?

have a beautiful day / evening / night time.

 

[Yazata]

Edited out all the links to other forums.

Is there ways to protect oneself against the supposed entity aside from distance?

Yes of course there is:
Don't practice or read about creepy occult rituals if you are scared for what might happen.

 

[Yazata]

Linking to other forums is against the rules. I edited it out and please take this as a verbal warning. Next time will be an official one.

 

[Pearzonz1876]

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Just look up some volume 3 the part I am referencing is on page 227.

I am so sorry for so many questions but I NEED them answered / debunked. PLEASE!!!!!!!
MOST IMPORTANT QUESTION:
Is this supposed story and supposed entity true and real?
Should the last line "Provided he even gives you a choice." Be takes seriously at all? What does this mean?

Should one take the furnace explosion seriously? I heard I should not take it seriously and or not put it belief into it at all.

Does it matter if you want it or not?

Why did the narrator have things happen to him if he had nothing to do with the creation? Was it because he worked in that current the same night the creation happened?

Could something / anything happen to someone who has never and will never work in that current and just hunks and reads about it?

How can one protect themself and others from it and or sever a connection they do not want?

How does one stop fearing the subject matter / supposed entity? How does one permanently forget about this forever?

Would one making a fire themed / related characters a year and month later cause there to be a connection if one did not know about the existence of the supposed entity? What if one did know about the supposed entity?

What would open if one made a fire related / themed / etc fictional character around and or at the same time that the supposed entity was made? Would anything happen at all? Would there be a connection at all?

Would there be a connection and or would anything happen if me were to make fire themed / related characters, fictions, etc, and or do fire themed / related things in real life or not in real life with the knowledge of this supposed entity?

Is this supposed entity all knowing and or all seeing and or all powerful?
Can this supposed entity kill people?

What do you make of / think of the people who supposedly almost died because of this supposed entity?

I have fire related / themed fictional characters that have been that's have similar and even the same colors(blue and orange) as the logo / sigil of the supposed entity. They were made a year and a day and month later than the supposed entity was.

Would anything happen and or would there be any
if I were to make anymore fire themed / related / etc fictional characters now that I know about this supposed egregore / speed entity?
Would anything happen at all and or is there a connection between my fictional character that is fire related / themed / etc since I made it a year and and couple of months and a few days after the supposed egregore / supposed entity was made / created?

Does having knowledge about the supposed egregore / supposed entity determine if there is a connection and or if anything would happen at all? How would one sever the connection and protect themselves and others that they know and or are around them from this supposed egregore / supposed entity?

Why / how did the supposed egregore / supposed entity become so powerful in just overnight? Has it become more powerful over time or maybe mellowed out so to speak and or become less powerful as time has gone on at all?

How to protect oneself and or others from and or / against the supposed entity?

How to permanently forget about this supposed entity and or / subject matter forever permanently?

For the sentence with the number three in parentheses after it. Should I and or anyone be worried at all as a person / people who were never involved? What happened to the other people involved and or not involved?

Can anyone possible find out?


Would anything happen if one were to draw a fire in front of a crescent moon shape like in the picture, a proper crescent moon, and or a full moon, possibly with a circle within the fire as well?

Would anything happen if one were to draw something / anything similar to the short handed emoticon that is pictured within the story?

Would a connection be formed by imagining the logo / symbol / sigil on a fictional characters? Especially fire related / themed / etc ones? Does it matter if it is involuntary or not?

would sayin the phrase to blaze him is to praise cause anything to happen at all?

would saying the name / title cause anything to happen at all if one knows about this speed egregore / supposed entity?

Would anything happen I I said wanted their to connection but in reality I did not want there to be any at all?


Would anything happen just by mere thinking about, speaking / discussing, writing, reading / seeing, and or drawing the sigil / logo of the supposed entity and or the supposed entity itself?

Would there be any connection at all if one were to make a fire related / themed / etc fictional character one the same day(s) when if the supposed egregore / supposed entity was made / created? Would knowledge of the supposed egregore / supposed entity change this at all?

have a beautiful day / evening / night time.

 

[HoldAll]

It would help if you mentioned the title of the book you're referencing.

 

[Morell]

I won't answer everything, this is a ton of questions that makes me roll my eyes...

Europe:
Europe is land inhabited by humans for many thousands of years. Of course it has it's own traditions, occult as well as cultural. Also being of ethnic doesn't give you birthright for practices, nor bans you from them. That's racist. European traditions are for example: Norse paganism/scandidavian/viking, celtic tracition, Slovan traditions, To some extend Christian tradition and Jewish traditions, Kabbalah also originates in Europe.

Honey: Bees live on big part of the world, so is honey present in most of the world.

Closet practices: I find it hilarious how people from outside protect practices of Indians as if it were some sort of holy privileged people. If they are truly closed, you cannot learn about them at all. And then these outside people bully other people that practice what they consider privilege of the group they are not even part of. Humans are not to be put in categories like that, to be allowed to do something because you are part of a group and being banned with threat of punishment when not member...

The rest of the query is again about you believing that only certain ethic has right to do magic and anyone else doing magic should be bullied or at least being afraid of it or of punishment. It's disgusting and unfair, to say the least. No ethic has the right to claim the birthright that is given to every human on planet. Deal with it.

 

[Morell]

Are you collecting stuff for writing a fictional book?

 

[HoldAll]

Best to feed all these questions into an AI if you seek nothing but superficial info. Or study books for a change and form your own opinion. We can't do your thinking for you, your know.

 

[SkullTraill]

Yes and no.

 

[Pearzonz1876]

The title of the text Liber LS Volume 3. Subject matter starts on page 227.

I am so sorry for so many questions but I NEED them answered / debunked. PLEASE!!!!!!!
MOST IMPORTANT QUESTION:
Is this supposed story and supposed entity true and real?
Should the last line "Provided he even gives you a choice." Be takes seriously at all? What does this mean?

Should one take the furnace explosion seriously? I heard I should not take it seriously and or not put it belief into it at all.

Does it matter if you want it or not?

Why did the narrator have things happen to him if he had nothing to do with the creation? Was it because he worked in that current the same night the creation happened?

Could something / anything happen to someone who has never and will never work in that current and just hunks and reads about it?

How can one protect themself and others from it and or sever a connection they do not want?

How does one stop fearing the subject matter / supposed entity? How does one permanently forget about this forever?

Would one making a fire themed / related characters a year and month later cause there to be a connection if one did not know about the existence of the supposed entity? What if one did know about the supposed entity?

What would open if one made a fire related / themed / etc fictional character around and or at the same time that the supposed entity was made? Would anything happen at all? Would there be a connection at all?

Would there be a connection and or would anything happen if me were to make fire themed / related characters, fictions, etc, and or do fire themed / related things in real life or not in real life with the knowledge of this supposed entity?

Is this supposed entity all knowing and or all seeing and or all powerful?
Can this supposed entity kill people?

What do you make of / think of the people who supposedly almost died because of this supposed entity?

I have fire related / themed fictional characters that have been that's have similar and even the same colors(blue and orange) as the logo / sigil of the supposed entity. They were made a year and a day and month later than the supposed entity was.


How to protect oneself and or others from and or / against the supposed entity?

How to permanently forget about this supposed entity and or / subject matter forever permanently?


For the sentence with the number three in parentheses after it. Should I and or anyone be worried at all as a person / people who were never involved? What happened to the other people involved and or not involved?

Can anyone possible find out?


Would anything happen if one were to draw a fire in front of a crescent moon shape like in the picture, a proper crescent moon, and or a full moon, possibly with a circle within the fire as well?

Would anything happen if one were to draw something / anything similar to the short handed emoticon that is pictured within the story?
Would anything happen I I said wanted their to connection but in reality I did not want there to be any at all?

Would anything happen just by mere thinking about, speaking / discussing, writing, reading / seeing, and or drawing the sigil / logo of the supposed entity and or the supposed entity itself?

 

[Robert Ramsay]

My first impression upon reading your questions is that maybe magic is not for you.

 

[Morell]

The title of the text Liber LS Volume 3. Subject matter starts on page 227.

These Liber LS from DKMU?

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I took a look at the article you mention. Relatively simple tale of what happened on their forum and how they created sigil and summoning of some fire being. Nothing complex, actually.

Considering your ton of questions, biases and deep insecurity, I must agree with @Robert Ramsay that right now magic might not be for you. That can change in time, but you seem to be too filled with fear.

 

[Pearzonz1876]

I have many questions that I need answered, and no matter where I post them they never get answered. I know they seem silly and or stupid and or whatever, but I need them answered / entertained. Or at least a way to calm down about them.
If there is anyone who is willing to answer them in DMs please let me know. Or tell a place where there are people willing to actually answer them.

Have a wonderful day / evening / night.

 

[Yazata]

Again: you don't have to make the same thread over and over. You are getting answers; just not the one you want to hear.

 

[Pearzonz1876]

Again: you don't have to make the same thread over and over. You are getting answers; just not the one you want to hear.

I really do not understand how my of them are answering the questions I have asked. I really don't.

 

[Morell]

But we did answer you: That you should put the occult texts away, forget that they exist and move on. That is the safest way for you. You don't need to bother with how magic works, unless you want to start beings serious about it and start doing magic work yourself.

Answering to over nine thousand questions query is also killing anyone's brain. Ask one to three questions. We are not AI to generate all the answers at once, nor we are writing a Q&A book that would be probably needed to answer everything you asked in depth...