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satanic master-Anton Lavey, last words- 'Oh My, What Have I Done'

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Here are the last words of Anton LaVey and a couple of other well-known atheists:
1. Anton LaVey: “Oh my, oh my, what have I done! There’s something very wrong; there’s something very wrong; there’s something very wrong!”
2. Aleister Crowley: “I am perplexed. Satan, get out.”
I find these statements quite intriguing! What do you think they mean? Are they really suggesting that they are bad and that engaging with them could lead us to hell? Or its like we are manipulated my our own government to not work with them? I’d love to hear thoughts from anyone who identifies as an occult master, demonologist, or Satanist. Personally, I often feel that we might be manipulated, and it leaves me wondering about my own insecurities when it comes to working with demons versus angels. I’m really curious to know what others think!
 

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Here are the last words of Anton LaVey and a couple of other well-known atheists:
1. Anton LaVey: “Oh my, oh my, what have I done! There’s something very wrong; there’s something very wrong; there’s something very wrong!”
2. Aleister Crowley: “I am perplexed. Satan, get out.”
I find these statements quite intriguing! What do you think they mean? Are they really suggesting that they are bad and that engaging with them could lead us to hell? Or its like we are manipulated my our own government to not work with them? I’d love to hear thoughts from anyone who identifies as an occult master, demonologist, or Satanist. Personally, I often feel that we might be manipulated, and it leaves me wondering about my own insecurities when it comes to working with demons versus angels. I’m really curious to know what others think!
Neither of these are true.

The claim that these were LaVey's last words originated in the early 00s with the Evangelical pastor Patricia King, who, wisely, didn't mention Anton LaVey by name when she said, without a shred of evidence or a citation, that these were the last words of "a really famous Satanist leader in San Francisco". LaVey died of pulmonary edema, meaning he couldn't actually speak on his death bed.

There was one person in the room with Crowley when he died and
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. The story that his last words were "I am perplexed" has been around for many years. They may well have been the last words that he spoke. However, Crowley died after being comatose for two days so the context of his saying those words would make all the difference. For all we know, if they were his last words, he may have been talking about the weekend crossword.

The "Satan get out" part is utterly spurious. I've been reading about Crowley all of my adult life and the first place I read that was an Evangelical meme account on Twitter. It seems bearing false witness is alright when it's done to advance one's agenda.
 

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The Crowley quote has been debunked. Would not doubt the same for LaVey.

Anyone who sees either of these two men as "evil" in a regular sense of the word, has not read anything they ever wrote.

These misattributed false-witness quotes are just a product of fundamentalist superstition.
 

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The Crowley quote has been debunked. Would not doubt the same for LaVey.

Anyone who sees either of these two men as "evil" in a regular sense of the word, has not read anything they ever wrote.

These misattributed false-witness quotes are just a product of fundamentalist superstition.

And oh, so typical of the world we currently live in with the absurd legal requirement to 'be nice' to people who in return will scream abuse at you if they don't like what you say. Here in the UK it has just gone into law that there is now a whole new offence of saying things that are 'legal, but cause harm' - in short if the perpetually offended don't like it then you are now a criminal. Welcome to Starmer's UK.
I'm just waiting for him to outlaw Crowley's writings as 'Hate Speech' or for causing offence to Islam.
And no, I am not joking.
 

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Nietzsche made a perceptive remark that last words were not nrecessarily a reliable guide to character. A sick old man or a cancer patient might well waver. The traditional Japanese and the Romans tended to encourage suicide in cases where one's continued life might taint his legacy.
 

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Nietzsche made a perceptive remark that last words were not nrecessarily a reliable guide to character. A sick old man or a cancer patient might well waver. The traditional Japanese and the Romans tended to encourage suicide in cases where one's continued life might taint his legacy.

My thoughts exactly. The mind is not exactly as lucid nearing death as it is while living. Who would go to a job interview after dropping a tab?
 

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All the above being said, Mark Twain had a humorous essay about how one should practice for his last words. Like so much of Twain, it gave a humorous treatment to what should have been a grave subject. One reads of General Tadamichi Kuribayashi on Iwo Jima writing a poem, downing a cup of saki, then heading out to die in the fight. Death by natural causes might interefere with that. But it is a good exercise to ask yourself after any near traffic accident what you would die saying. Quick! Two second limit to say something. Two dozen word limit. Similarly, rehearse what you will say when a heart attack comes. Memorize a short saying you can recall when in extremis with a debilitating illness.

Why all the theatrics? These are not theatrics. If you have any wisdom or insight, your last moments are the time to impart it. People will remember it. Consider it fulfilling the duty to teach what you have learnt. And try to have a reliable witness on hand. LaVey and Crowley seem to have been unfortunate here.
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My thoughts exactly. The mind is not exactly as lucid nearing death as it is while living. Who would go to a job interview after dropping a tab?
Lots of guys sign enlistment papers drunk and look what happe----oh. Yeah. Point taken.
 
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s. If you have any wisdom or insight, your last moments are the time to impart it. People will remember it. Consider it fulfilling the duty to teach what you have learnt. And try to have a reliable witness on hand.
That’s why you keep your last words written down in your wallet or in a safe at the house. Someone is bound to find them should anything happen suddenly and there is no witness.
I rather like last words to be kinda humorous for those with a morbid sense of humour. Last Words:
“Alas.. finally, no more taxes, I am at peace”
“No large crowds at my funeral, they make me nervous”
“Whatever helps me sleep at night”
If you’re married it could be even more humorous. (If your husband/wife has a good sense of graveyard humor that is)
😂

As for Crowley…. His last words may not of been that he was perplexed. But they may very well might have been if he thought that his life didn’t amount to much of anything and he was perplexed why he made the choices he made.
Personally I’m perplexed as to why people believe that Lavay’s “last words” are still believed to be fact.
 

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That’s why you keep your last words written down in your wallet or in a safe at the house. Someone is bound to find them should anything happen suddenly and there is no witness.
I rather like last words to be kinda humorous for those with a morbid sense of humour. Last Words:
“Alas.. finally, no more taxes, I am at peace”
“No large crowds at my funeral, they make me nervous”
“Whatever helps me sleep at night”
If you’re married it could be even more humorous. (If your husband/wife has a good sense of graveyard humor that is)
😂

As for Crowley…. His last words may not of been that he was perplexed. But they may very well might have been if he thought that his life didn’t amount to much of anything and he was perplexed why he made the choices he made.
Personally I’m perplexed as to why people believe that Lavay’s “last words” are still believed to be
Sir Walter Raleigh's feeling the headsman's axe and observing, "Sharp medicine, but a sure cure for all ills" strikes the right tone.
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That’s why you keep your last words written down in your wallet or in a safe at the house. Someone is bound to find them should anything happen suddenly and there is no witness.
I rather like last words to be kinda humorous for those with a morbid sense of humour. Last Words:
“Alas.. finally, no more taxes, I am at peace”
“No large crowds at my funeral, they make me nervous”
“Whatever helps me sleep at night”
If you’re married it could be even more humorous. (If your husband/wife has a good sense of graveyard humor that is)
😂

As for Crowley…. His last words may not of been that he was perplexed. But they may very well might have been if he thought that his life didn’t amount to much of anything and he was perplexed why he made the choices he made.
Personally I’m perplexed as to why people believe that Lavay’s “last words” are still believed to be fact.
Lots of folks do not much like LaVey. So they pick the gratifying rumor as fact.
 
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