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Sex Magick

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I was wondering if you good people could share your experiences with sex Magick. Just looking at it on paper I can kinda see the idea of it. For one there's tons of energy released by both partners unless it's just Harriet Palm and her 5 sisters. Either way the energy, the emotions, the concentration; there's so many things being released all together. So I can kinda see the concept in my head of how exactly Sex Magick may work. Possibly energy, concentration, then added intent or will just may manifest a result. I always have been curious about Sex Magick so I thought I would take advantage of you good people's experiences and ask some questions. I have so many books in my que so I realistically don't have the time at the moment to pick up a book on the subject. To add some fun to the mix whoever leaves the best most original answer I will personally give you a Occult related prize.
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You actually mentioned all the stages except doing the deed itself, so what are your questions?

Oww and why pay? Not that mind, but sex and money normally is called hookery and for that i have a very special lane. Its legal here and an honerable job, so beware. 😇
 

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You actually mentioned all the stages except doing the deed itself, so what are your questions?

Oww and why pay? Not that mind, but sex and money normally is called hookery and for that i have a very special lane. Its legal here and an honerable job, so beware. 😇
I just assumed that was probably how things worked. I've never actually read up on the subject.
 

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Just looking at it on paper I can kinda see the idea of it.
There are variant schools of thought, so which paper were you looking at?

The union of the sexes to produce wish fulfillment via orgasmic release is a typical formula. In terms of Paschal Beverly Randolph, this is the only proper formula, but it should only be done after fasting, prayer and other observances, and only between man and wife under certain astrological conditions on a Tuesday during a full moon and for no more than half an hour.

There are formulas of onanism which some think to be highly effective - for example, Naglowska's "white charger" concept, in which the male, after proper preparation, must withhold his emission during coitus as an act of overcoming. This example is rooted in her conception of "God=Life" and "Satan=Death". That is, the free flow of energy in the cosmos, reflected in our flesh, is represented by God as all giving, and the contrary force of Satan is the restriction of this energy for the purpose of self control and domination of the instincts. This is why she was improperly called a "satanist". For Naglowska. the "white charger" symbol is a horse that must be tamed. So virile magus + beautiful priestess - orgasm = magical self transformation, at least for the male. This is a precursor to other powers.

Crowley is usually the main source of modern conceptions and practices as I understand them. He blended a sort of Freudian-Nietzschean perspective of magic with Tantrism. He was a anti-onanist to the extreme. Orgasm is not just a key to power but also an obligation as typified by passages in Liber Legis. Also, any concept of "love" as we understand in the romantic sense is useless here. By his own admission he pretty much experimented with every conceivable and inconceivable technique, with everything and everyone, though the main aim seems to have been for visionary purposes. I think during the Paris Working he was trying to get money, but this action was probably more reflective of an actually experiment to determine formulas for future workings. If one can comb through his euphemisms one can glean useful perspectives on the psychosexual interpretation of magic (or Magick).

Grant builds on Crowley's (and others, such Spare, Parsons, etc) conceptions and reports in a variety of ways which seem to translate pretty much all magic into sex magic, from before the beginning of recorded history. It's all apocalyptic in a sort of Lovecraftian alien invasion sense and I find it inspiring, actually.

There is of course the God and Goddess rites of Wicca and such, these all being (argumentatively) rooted in Crowley to some degree, though there are questions of deeper history. Witchcraft, as the medieval "Christian nightmare" bears little resemblance to what covens do today.

Ancient Gnostic practices and/or accusations against them can kind of give an idea of the origin of that nightmare, as there is a good deal of erotic imagery embedded in some texts. But it's hard to sort out what they actually did vs. what is projected on them. For example, the parable that the Soul is female and oppressed until she learns to wear her genitals on the outside may be a confusing image to some people. It makes good for arguments against heresy on some pulpits.

It is probably helpful to actually get a perspective on actual Tantrism and its influence in the West since the 19th century as a base of comparison between different doctrines. Once commenter on "Western Tantra" pointed out that, due to an inherent mercantile greed for satisfaction - which is the great flaw of many people's approach to sexual magic and mysticism - there seems to be a confusion between "sexualized ritual" and "ritualized sex".

As to personal experience all I can say is that Randolph's methods do NOT work for me. Naglowska's is a philosophical petticoat, and Crowley's a menagerie of "dissolution" which nevertheless holds a decent cosmic perspective that is useful in certain applications. I tend toward an ecstatic and poetic interpretation of magic in general, though with an attitude and goal of detachment and objective indifference. Like any other form of energy, the libidinal force is just a tool for work. But it arguably the most powerful of all powers, if not the singular power in itself manifesting in deceptive veils under every other magical technique, no matter how drab and mundane they may seem. Love is the power of becoming, generation the manifest act of creation, and "Love under Will" is an ethic of conjuration.
 

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There are variant schools of thought, so which paper were you looking at?

The union of the sexes to produce wish fulfillment via orgasmic release is a typical formula. In terms of Paschal Beverly Randolph, this is the only proper formula, but it should only be done after fasting, prayer and other observances, and only between man and wife under certain astrological conditions on a Tuesday during a full moon and for no more than half an hour.

There are formulas of onanism which some think to be highly effective - for example, Naglowska's "white charger" concept, in which the male, after proper preparation, must withhold his emission during coitus as an act of overcoming. This example is rooted in her conception of "God=Life" and "Satan=Death". That is, the free flow of energy in the cosmos, reflected in our flesh, is represented by God as all giving, and the contrary force of Satan is the restriction of this energy for the purpose of self control and domination of the instincts. This is why she was improperly called a "satanist". For Naglowska. the "white charger" symbol is a horse that must be tamed. So virile magus + beautiful priestess - orgasm = magical self transformation, at least for the male. This is a precursor to other powers.

Crowley is usually the main source of modern conceptions and practices as I understand them. He blended a sort of Freudian-Nietzschean perspective of magic with Tantrism. He was a anti-onanist to the extreme. Orgasm is not just a key to power but also an obligation as typified by passages in Liber Legis. Also, any concept of "love" as we understand in the romantic sense is useless here. By his own admission he pretty much experimented with every conceivable and inconceivable technique, with everything and everyone, though the main aim seems to have been for visionary purposes. I think during the Paris Working he was trying to get money, but this action was probably more reflective of an actually experiment to determine formulas for future workings. If one can comb through his euphemisms one can glean useful perspectives on the psychosexual interpretation of magic (or Magick).

Grant builds on Crowley's (and others, such Spare, Parsons, etc) conceptions and reports in a variety of ways which seem to translate pretty much all magic into sex magic, from before the beginning of recorded history. It's all apocalyptic in a sort of Lovecraftian alien invasion sense and I find it inspiring, actually.

There is of course the God and Goddess rites of Wicca and such, these all being (argumentatively) rooted in Crowley to some degree, though there are questions of deeper history. Witchcraft, as the medieval "Christian nightmare" bears little resemblance to what covens do today.

Ancient Gnostic practices and/or accusations against them can kind of give an idea of the origin of that nightmare, as there is a good deal of erotic imagery embedded in some texts. But it's hard to sort out what they actually did vs. what is projected on them. For example, the parable that the Soul is female and oppressed until she learns to wear her genitals on the outside may be a confusing image to some people. It makes good for arguments against heresy on some pulpits.

It is probably helpful to actually get a perspective on actual Tantrism and its influence in the West since the 19th century as a base of comparison between different doctrines. Once commenter on "Western Tantra" pointed out that, due to an inherent mercantile greed for satisfaction - which is the great flaw of many people's approach to sexual magic and mysticism - there seems to be a confusion between "sexualized ritual" and "ritualized sex".

As to personal experience all I can say is that Randolph's methods do NOT work for me. Naglowska's is a philosophical petticoat, and Crowley's a menagerie of "dissolution" which nevertheless holds a decent cosmic perspective that is useful in certain applications. I tend toward an ecstatic and poetic interpretation of magic in general, though with an attitude and goal of detachment and objective indifference. Like any other form of energy, the libidinal force is just a tool for work. But it arguably the most powerful of all powers, if not the singular power in itself manifesting in deceptive veils under every other magical technique, no matter how drab and mundane they may seem. Love is the power of becoming, generation the manifest act of creation, and "Love under Will" is an ethic of conjuration.
Wow Bro, you summed it up right there, no need to go read any books now! :) When I said, "LOOKING AT IT ON PAPER;" That was simply a Metaphor so to speak. I have a general idea about how many types of magick work. So when you look at , "Sex Magick ;" I start to assume it would work similarly to say Chaos Magick. There's lots of energy that is being produced so I assumed that would be a good place to start.
Thank you for your reply, I'm sure that would be helpful to other's other than myself as well.
 

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All right, I can't resist tossing my hat in on this one. I'll be honest, I'm the practical sort of witch with a classic mad scientist's approach to magic. ("Eh, might as well, what's the worst that could possibly happen?") I did all the reading on most of the above, said "hm, that's interesting," and promptly went off to just screw around with it to see what happened. (Pun intended. Sorry. :sneaky:) Partnered sex magic is out for me for the moment, due to life circumstances (widow, two young children), so I've focused completely on developing autoeroticism as a practice in itself, and had great results in a lot of arenas, particularly as a... tool, of sorts. The obvious, famed Chaos Magick use to charge sigils and power spells proved for me to be the gateway into using it extensively to make much easier everything from basic meditation (seriously, if meditation gives you trouble, play around with partnering it with self-sex) to astral work to energy work to simply smoothing out and making ready my own energy for use.

However, the vast majority of my practice these days centers on spirits, and sex magic shines there, for me. Not every spirit likes sex with humans, but a lot do. Even those that don't, very often appreciate what can be offered and how in ways that, even when not directly an act of sex magic, are easiest to learn and practice by starting with sex magic. And if you're willing to go there honestly, shed inhibitions and actually make a practice of sex magic, there is no better way to bond with a tool, and no better way to prepare and get in the right place to go out and bond to pretty much anything else you might want to. (Places, for instance.)

Also, and I'll take the firestorm for it, but I stand by my words: it's perfectly fine that it's fun and enjoyable. In fact, I say, start there. Especially with yourself. You really want to master sex magick, drop the crap around everything sex is "supposed" to be. Now, practicing theistic Luciferian (who sometimes masquerades as a non-theistic Satanist) here, so perhaps that's just born of my philosophies, but really enjoying it really helps.
 

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The emotions in sex definitely help with magick. Iirc it's one of the ways to activate a demonic seal, so it should definitely provide some powerful effects.
 
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Not sure if I shared this experience before.
Being hetero, it felt strange.
I was working on a contract and under financial pressure with my contract soon to be over.
What did I do about it but sex Magick...
I fapped with the image and sound over and over in my mind of him renewing my contract.
It worked.
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Also ... I know a witch shaman on the dark path, who had a couple staying with her. Not together but in the basement.
The couple humped like bunnies while there.
She knows how to harvest energy, so yay for her :). There was a lot of sexual energy hanging in the air of the place.
 
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