The elephant in the room... Aliens

[ArchonLynx]

I'm pretty sure if you are a real occultist/magi you understand spirits are UFOs/aliens/energy/angels/demons/gods/etc

Just wondering what made everyone realize this & how it affected their practices & if everyone sees the actual big picture.

Our governments are the biggest ritual sects that actually are in contact with these being in space. The word "space" is funny.

And after realizing this you find out duality is human nature & all are good for something.

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Everything comes from our thoughts so these beings are just a aspect of ourselves we can manipulate.

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We are biological factories that produce thought forms & energies that affect realities.

 

[HoldAll]

Our governments are the biggest ritual sects that actually are in contact with these being in space.

The UN currently comprises 193 nation states whose political systems, philosophies and interests are wildly heterogenous and whose governments change every few years, often as a result of revolutions, scandals and other spectacular events that leave a lot of disaffected politicians, whistleblowers and dissidents in their wake - THAT's the big picture. Seen from the perspective of the puny individual citizen/subject of course, their own governments (just as international corporations or organisations) are all-powerful institutions terribly efficient (and we all know how efficient governments are) at hushing things up and covering their tracks, yet stumbling over such comparatively minor matters such as bribes, marital infidelity, compromising photos, ill-advised public statements, unpopular policies, etc. Apart from some sensational assassinations, attempted and actual, historically speaking not even dictators have been able to silence all their exiled critics, and yet conspiracy theorists proceed from the assumption that you can fool ALL the people ALL the time, which is simply not possible IMO.

Take for example Italy which had 69 goverments since 1945 all members of which are supposed to have kept mum about aliens? Even the involvement of a

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in Italian politics was eventually brought to light but not such an outrageous occurence such as alien contact? I just don't buy it. If alien-human contacts have in fact occured, it would have been on an individual level and is not 'kept secret' as a matter of government policy but because these contactees have been usually unable to find any media representatives who could have made their experiences available to a wider audience, while the majority of people routinely dismisses them as cranks - that's the real 'conspiracy of silence': for most people, it's just shit nobody cares about because there are more exciting things like a celebrity's nose job, for example.

193 constantly changing governments all over the world so formidably competent that they manage to suppress their secret alien communications all the time without fail while most of the time just muddling through? I say no way José.

 

[Adelina]

Some say, that most "aliens" are deep state ex-nazis with special secret technology. That sounds more plausible.

193 constantly changing governments all over the world so formidably competent that they manage to suppress their secret alien communications all the time without fail while most of the time just muddling through? I say no way José.

Official representatives of governments aren't real rulers. Real rulers stay in the shadows. Official representatives are just pawns who do what they are ordered to do. Ever since at least first half of XXth century most of the countries are ruled by same small group of people. Traces of real rulers lead to Vatican and old Italian dynasties and dynasties connected with "Fisher King".

Just to note: almost all USA presidents are actually relatives to some degree. It is not like they are true rulers, no. But even here we have "pseudo-elections" which serve no other reason but to make the illusion of seemingly random people getting to power. No, these people are not random at all!

 

[Robert Ramsay]

Magic requires a belief system to implement it; but it doesn't matter what belief system it is. If your magic works with aliens, space nazis, elephants or whatever, you go for it

We say "we manipulate reality" and then go on to insist on the existence of all kinds of things we use to manipulate that reality. Much easier just to say "we do it, using these tools"

 

[Lemongrass00]

Some say, that most "aliens" are deep state ex-nazis with special secret technology. That sounds more plausible.

How in the world does that sound more plausible

 

[Adelina]

How in the world does that sound more plausible

You might be interested in reading books of Joseph Farrell. Of course it is more plausible, that there are actual people from blood and flesh are staying behind all these "UFOs". Millenias ago in some countries (late Egypt was known for that according to some tales) rulers were using deeper knowledge of Nature to frighten common people and make them succumb to tyrannical power of these rulers. As saying goes, "Nothing new under the Moon". Again, some rulers rulers use the technologies, which they worked on during the middle of XXth century, to frighten people.

You might also be interested in researching who was Serge Monast.

Military technologies, which are kept in secrecy by leading governments, are miles ahead of what is available to civils. However, the way these technologies were acquired might actually be "outworldly", so to say.

 

[ArchonLynx]

I didn't say all the governments work together as a unit just each government that is super wealthy. They do rituals and such for space beings. Take for example astronaut they wear symbols and Latin phrases when going up into space alot of them also do chaos magic. What exactly is space and what's up there.

 

[PinealisGlandia]

The grey aliens are not spirits, they are physical. I have been abducted by them, and they are assholes. If you ever have the misfortune to meet one, punch it in its bloated head and tell them it's from me.

 

[ArchonLynx]

They can shift from physical to plasma

 

[Robert Ramsay]

They can shift from physical to plasma

Plasma is still physical.