[Opinion] The Great Division

[Konsciencia]

Hey guys and gals!!!! I have something very important to say. I see a lot of division in humanity lately. Unfortunately, it is due to religion. Muslims against Christians, Christians against Muslims, Christians against people in Spirituality (especially those who practice Witchcraft). Well, you get the point. It is sad seeing ourselves against each others throats. This is uncalled for. I guess is part of the evolution process that we go through this. I would Love to see Humans in harmony and loving each other.

What about you guys?

 

[Aeternus]

There are a lot of undergoing problems currently.

I would love to see humans in harmony and to not be criticized about my passion with occultism not in the family that much, but with some peers and other people in general.

Not all people are so opened unfortunately

 

[Konsciencia]

There are a lot of undergoing problems currently.

I would love to see humans in harmony and to not be criticized about my passion with occultism not in the family that much, but with some peers and other people in general.

Not all people are so opened unfortunately

I hear ya!

 

[Robert Ramsay]

Hey guys and gals!!!! I have something very important to say. I see a lot of division in humanity lately. Unfortunately, it is due to religion. Muslims against Christians, Christians against Muslims, Christians against people in Spirituality (especially those who practice Witchcraft). Well, you get the point. It is sad seeing ourselves against each others throats. This is uncalled for. I guess is part of the evolution process that we go through this. I would Love to see Humans in harmony and loving each other.

What about you guys?

The world seems to be undergoing a rise in what is euphemistically called 'populism'. These kind of leaders thrive, nay, require division so they have a 'them' for 'us' to be against.

I would like nothing more than for these hate-mongers to be yeeted into the sun, and to stop stirring up people's worst impulses.

 

[Konsciencia]

Yeah, they want us like that so that they can keep on controlling us.

 

[Mars]

I would love for the perverted abrahamic religions to be exterminated and humans freed of their self-imposed slavery and returned to actual spirituality and suprasensible powers with all its primordial and potent energies. Only then can we be free. Only then can the white race realise its spirit.

 

[Konsciencia]

I would love for the perverted abrahamic religions to be exterminated and humans freed of their self-imposed slavery and returned to actual spirituality and suprasensible powers with all its primordial and potent energies. Only then can we be free. Only then can the white race realise its spirit.

I definitely agree.

 

[DiLoco_DelEted]

I have no problem with the Trinity, it's the followers of Yahovah and Jesus and Allah and Mohammed that frighten me.

 

[Mars]

I have no problem with the Trinity, it's the followers of Yahovah and Jesus and Allah and Mohammed that frighten me.

Trinity in Abraham is just Brahman, Vishnu and Shiva from Hinduism. Or the All, the I and the not I from Hermeticism. Or the soul, spirit and the body from the philosophers.

The bible is a hotchpot of egyptian, sumer and discarded jewish texts. Perverted and degenerated a lot. At least in Islam there is still the concept of the greater war (the war with yourself/ spiritual) and the lesser war (the physical, material war) appropriated from alchemy.

I do actually pity arabs a lot. They stem from the egyptians and sumer, that was a genuine potent system and the last to know true magic. Only to become converted into sub 65IQ idiots that die for Mohammed. Enlil and Ra surely will never return for this alone. Have you been to egypt? Such a fucking shithole. At least Mosques are blarring all the time.

 

[beardedeldridge]

There’s nothing new in the world.

People are people and we’ve been at each others’ throats since the beginning of time. Religion isn’t the source just another tool to justify our actions. Abrahamic (any variant) can’t be blamed anymore than any other religious beliefs, they’re just easier targets since they are the ones “winning” currently.

And people aren’t evolving, we just make subtle changes to the way we do things but not to the what or to the why.

-Eld

 

[Mars]

There’s nothing new in the world.

People are people and we’ve been at each others’ throats since the beginning of time. Religion isn’t the source just another tool to justify our actions. Abrahamic (any variant) can’t be blamed anymore than any other religious beliefs, they’re just easier targets since they are the ones “winning” currently.

And people aren’t evolving, we just make subtle changes to the way we do things but not to the what or to the why.

-Eld

Thats too easy. This suggests you can save yourself from any accountability or responsibility by just blaming it on any providence. Much like christians do.

The hero of tradition was different on the other hand. He knew his weakness but also knew his mission to become better. To transcend himself as a being. Good Men do not cease being Men. The goal is to become a god. Not a good man.

There wasnt any "Oh thats just how it is, nothing I can do about it". He only knew action (Acta)

Also yes we aren't evolving. We are devolving. We are degenerating. We are the dumbest variant of Human to ever graze this earth. And tomorrow we will be even dumber.

 

[Taudefindi]

I wonder if this thread is indeed one for the religion section or if it would work better in the philosophy and psychology or economy and politcs sections.
What you think, @SkullTraill ?

Unfortunately, it is due to religion

While religion is indeed one of the biggest reasons, we still have many "layers of division" that society imposes on everyone, but the biggest right now in my opinion is actually financial(rich vs poor).Because those on power or positions of power usually tend to be rich themselves, and there's also the whole fight for the rights of workers that have been getting less and less paid while being forced to work more and more hours.

I would love for the perverted abrahamic religions to be exterminated

I'm an atheist myself and have no love for Abrahamic religions, but even I know that it isn't of good faith(pun not intended) to be radical against someone's beliefs in this way.

 

[SkullTraill]

I wonder if this thread is indeed one for the religion section or if it would work better in the philosophy and psychology or economy and politcs sections.
What you think, @SkullTraill ?

While religion is indeed one of the biggest reasons, we still have many "layers of division" that society imposes on everyone, but the biggest right now in my opinion is actually financial(rich vs poor).Because those on power or positions of power usually tend to be rich themselves, and there's also the whole fight for the rights of workers that have been getting less and less paid while being forced to work more and more hours.


I'm an atheist myself and have no love for Abrahamic religions, but even I know that it isn't of good faith(pun not intended) to be radical against someone's beliefs in this way.

Yeah, this doesn’t seem like a discussion on any practical/occult aspect of religion. Will move to philosophy section.

 

[Taudefindi]

humans freed of their self-imposed slavery

It doesn't matter even if you completely got rid of religions in general, as long as there are still layers of division, as long as people still long to see themselves as better than their peers(and thus "have a reason" for division), there will always be one way or another of "slavery".Hierarchies are how we divide people, and they seemingly will never go away.

Only then can the white race realise its spirit.

I have no problem with the Trinity, it's the followers of Yahovah and Jesus and Allah and Mohammed that frighten me.

As always, the followers are the ones changing the messages to suit their own needs, and it is actually interesting and frightening how indoctrinated people can become, to the point that they would even go against their own families so what's to say of strangers?

 

[beardedeldridge]

Thats too easy. This suggests you can save yourself from any accountability or responsibility by just blaming it on any providence. Much like christians do.

I would love for the perverted abrahamic religions to be exterminated and humans freed of their self-imposed slavery and returned to actual spirituality

Easy? Save myself from any accountability or responsibility? I just laid the blame squarely at the feet of any and all humans.

You just blamed most of our problems on one group of people and claimed the extermination of that group would improve all of our lives.

One of us made it easy and tbh sounds a little like every genocide preaching dictator in history. The other explained it as a difficult ongoing struggle against our very natures.

-Eld

 

[Mars]

Easy? Save myself from any accountability or responsibility? I just laid the blame squarely at the feet of any and all humans

"Humans have always been like this". It's internalised. Something that can't be changed and will never change.

"Abrahamic religion is as bad as any other".

Mithraism which competed for Christianity in the late roman empire shunned lies and was in the pursuit of knowledge. Unfortunately Christianity won and threw europe into a dark age. Regressing for 1000 years. People in the middle ages thought bathing was sinful and the only education was in a church. Yet people in Roma in 200 B.C.E had public bath houses, interlinked workshops and water mills. Yet people are still so arrested in their minds and associate the primordial powers with "Angels" and "Demons" and so on.

If it weren't for Christianity we would be an interstellar race by now. But instead we keep being pitiful servants to the banking elite here on earth.

Don't forget all the horrors christians inflicted on native americans and other nature people. Forceful conversion, the destruction of the entire south american continent and its culture etc. Getting rid of christians would be an act of mercy on them. They certainly didn't granted the people that fell victim to them a quick death. In the US they keep natives in reservation. After the christian settlers raped, slaughtered and stole their land. South americans don't even know their original heritage anymore. This is perverse actually. They build churches in the andes. Destroyed the original temples and build them on top of it. Millenia of human history gone forever

 

[beardedeldridge]

"Humans have always been like this". It's internalised. Something that can't be changed and will never change.

"Abrahamic religion is as bad as any other".

Mithraism which competed for Christianity in the late roman empire shunned lies and was in the pursuit of knowledge. Unfortunately Christianity won and threw europe into a dark age. Regressing for 1000 years. People in the middle ages thought bathing was sinful and the only education was in a church. Yet people in Roma in 200 B.C.E had public bath houses, interlinked workshops and water mills. Yet people are still so arrested in their minds and associate the primordial powers with "Angels" and "Demons" and so on.

If it weren't for Christianity we would be an interstellar race by now. But instead we keep being pitiful servants to the banking elite here on earth.

Don't forget all the horrors christians inflicted on native americans and other nature people. Forceful conversion, the destruction of the entire south american continent and its culture etc. Getting rid of christians would be an act of mercy on them. They certainly didn't granted the people that fell victim to them a quick death. In the US they keep natives in reservation. After the christian settlers raped, slaughtered and stole their land. South americans don't even know their original heritage anymore. This is perverse actually. They build churches in the andes. Destroyed the original temples and build them on top of it. Millenia of human history gone forever

Yes I internalize our nature, as every generation should to ensure the horrors and wrongs of our past aren’t repeated.

But your argument is the same that has been made many times before. If only we could smite this great external evil then the world would be a paradise… you’re right you don’t sound like those Christian’s who committed those horrors at all. Which is probably a data point against devolution.

You then cite a mystery cult, as the better religion, that we don’t know a lot about. Except that they sacrificed bulls (yep not abrahamic sounding at all) and was really big with the Roman army (no horrors committed by that group for sure). And then you go on to make a completely unsubstantiated claim that we would be traveling among the stars if only this other cult had won and went mainstream.

-Eld

 

[DiLoco_DelEted]

It doesn't matter even if you completely got rid of religions in general, as long as there are still layers of division, as long as people still long to see themselves as better than their peers(and thus "have a reason" for division), there will always be one way or another of "slavery".Hierarchies are how we divide people, and they seemingly will never go away.

As always, the followers are the ones changing the messages to suit their own needs, and it is actually interesting and frightening how indoctrinated people can become, to the point that they would even go against their own families so what's to say of strangers?

Well if we flat taxed megachurches 10%, the times might change.

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I agree as mentioned before, the class was, not a civil war, not a religious war, be t the first vide between the rich and poor should be a central focus.

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Class war .. dn autocorrect

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I agree as mentioned before, the class war, not a civil war, not a religious war, but the fivide between the rich and poor should be a central focus.

 

[Taudefindi]

Well if we flat taxed megachurches 10%, the times might change.

I do agree that churches should be taxed, specially those megachurches that are basically a big scheme to get people's money by exploiting their faith(and sometimes their hate).

 

[Mars]

Yes I internalize our nature, as every generation should to ensure the horrors and wrongs of our past aren’t repeated.

But your argument is the same that has been made many times before. If only we could smite this great external evil then the world would be a paradise… you’re right you don’t sound like those Christian’s who committed those horrors at all. Which is probably a data point against devolution.

You then cite a mystery cult, as the better religion, that we don’t know a lot about. Except that they sacrificed bulls (yep not abrahamic sounding at all) and was really big with the Roman army (no horrors committed by that group for sure). And then you go on to make a completely unsubstantiated claim that we would be traveling among the stars if only this other cult had won and went mainstream.

-Eld

Just keep arguing everything away so your mind doesn't have to step out the comfort zone.