Thoughts on NOFAP?

[Jackson]

Coffee is not enough.

 

[Xenophon]

Coffee is not enough.

We appreciate that, sir. However while seated at the counter here in Whataburger, we must ask you to refrain from anything besides drinking that coffee. Or at least move away from the window.

 

[Jackson]

Not to worry, there is a school nearby.

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[Baal]

I feel like nofap attracts succubus, which will do her thing while you sleep

 

[Shade]

I noticed that’s it’s beneficial to me but it’s only if I’m not too distracted. I find I’m more looking for that dopamine fix by working out or finishing a creative product than being drawn to sex but this has been years of the process, it started off with denial of urges and learning to put that energy/state of mind/release into something else.

(when I’m not dating someone otherwise we have sex however often they want and many days I’ll initiate because I’m out of the state of mind and more oriented towards them.)
But as soon as I’m single I focus on self again.

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I feel like nofap attracts succubus, which will do her thing while you sleep

It’s more common to happen to me when first getting out of a relationship, but a lot of things are hyper sexualized and that gets into your subconscious. It’s hard to avoid but doable.

 

[Shaman]

I did not enjoy. Everytime around me I see lewd women with tight or revealing clothing. So I can’t handle it.

 

[Magpie]

OP hit the nail on the head. With exception of excessive sex or fap, there is little difference.

Of course, with prolonged nofap cums distraction around fair ladies (and not so fair ladies too after a few days). I think it isn't worth it, unless you are trying to do something specific with it i.e. if it is part of an operation. Or if you are addicted to it. Or if you feel excessive shame. If none of this applies, I would say that Nofap is a wasted effort, because keeping yourself in check is quite draining.

I am saying that with a limited success of nofap (I lasted 2 months no sex, no porn, no fap) without any specific goal other than just trying it. Nothing to gain. Maybe if you last a very long time some super powers are granted to you by the Jewish Zeus, but I doubt it. I would go by "use it or lose it" maxim here.

That being said, I think NoPorn would be a purely beneficial effort, but that is a different topic.

 

[Shade]

I think it isn't worth it, unless you are trying to do something specific with it i.e. if it is part of an operation. Or if you are addicted to it. Or if you feel excessive shame. If none of this applies, I would say that Nofap is a wasted effort, because keeping yourself in check is quite draining.

Everyone is different so I agree that there is no right or wrong answer, unless you are addicted to it or as mentioned, addicted to it or addicted porn which is indeed a different topic. it can be draining to some to suppress urges.
One thing you did bring up is distraction around cute ladies (and not so cute after a while lol) I have noticed when I go longer periods of times and talk to girls I think are attractive at first it seemed awkward due to the attraction but over time and repeated instances, I’ve felt like with anything, it becomes more normal and more easy to not be distracted by that aspect the more it’s done, however… as you mentioned, it can seem as if there’s no point and it’s draining for no reason. I do think that it helps with confidence given enough practice or when you get the urge distracting yourself doing something that improves yourself wether a craft or working out is more beneficial in the long run bet absolute denial of urges I agree, is draining,
So I do agree with a lot of points you made, I do think there are some beneficial aspects to it that are overlooked though as long as you’re not like torturing yourself, overcoming uncomfortability is an aspect of growth.
A thread on porn addiction if one isn’t made already would be interestin.

 

[Magpie]

I do think that it helps with confidence given enough practice or when you get the urge distracting yourself doing something that improves yourself wether a craft or working out is more beneficial in the long run bet absolute denial of urges I agree, is draining,
So I do agree with a lot of points you made, I do think there are some beneficial aspects to it that are overlooked though as long as you’re not like torturing yourself, overcoming uncomfortability is an aspect of growth.

That is interesting - do you mean confidence as in you feel more attractive for women or confidence in your will and ability to resist the body? I 100% agree with the latter and I would class that as a specific purpose, part of asceticism.

 

[Shade]

That is interesting - do you mean confidence as in you feel more attractive for women or confidence in your will and ability to resist the body? I 100% agree with the latter and I would class that as a specific purpose, part of asceticism.

The latter, but also. When intercourse is pushed back in your mind you don’t really act any differently towards them. It’s like “it’s what’s on the inside that matters” type people which most of those people imo are full of sh- or for some fetish.. well sure to an extent personality can 100% override a girls looks and vice versa, I’m not gunna date a girl I’m not attracted to physically on some level. But at a certain point and encountering pretty girls often and urges emerge everyday time eventually it’s second stature to put them in then back of your mind or not on your mind at all in the moment, for Instance a girls body could be a 10/10 and personality amazing, sure I’ll shoot my shot at some point if we connect but the confidence to even talk to her is there because the urge to release just isn’t in the forefront if my mind, I’m able to push that to the side and seek a deeper connection, it takes time to get there but as mentioned.. theres Other ways some people swear by like ejaculating before going on a date so you’re less nervous to talk to a pretty woman but idk about others but after a few minutes I’m right back where I started ya know? Lol
If I have that mindset I can keep that mindset or I can just push it away and not think about it.
thats why I mentioned in my previous post after being in a relationship it takes a bit to focus on myself again and not think about sex.

 

[magick&psionics]

Specifically personal experience as I am not too interested in scientific (edit: or philosophical) guesswork found in many studies.

I've done:

• complete no sex/fap
• no fap but having sexual intercourse with strangers
• no fap, no sex with strangers, but sex with partner
• fap + sex with strangers
• fap + sex with partner
• only fap max once a day
• excessive fap (1-3 times a day)

I've tried all of these for at least a period of 3 months at a stretch.

With the exception of excessive fap, which was a bit draining and demotivating... I didn't notice ANY significant differences between all the other categories.

Honestly I like going on long stretches of nofap it brings a lot of well disciplined energy and it also helps with an overall sense of feeling energized. The only time id fap is when I'm trying to charge a sigil. Even then it's rare because I have other methods of inducing a trance

 

[voidcat]

I don't know if my experiences would apply as a transperson assigned female at birth so I don't have a penis...but i am on T and I have noticed when teased on and off excessively by someone and made to edge a lot for a couple of days I can end up feeling more energetic and friendly in general. Its actually one my favorite sex things to do for this reason. I don't know if its the same for those who have a penis but I wonder if the no fapping thing may come from men who are easily turned on and denial may for them give a boost of energy in a similar manner?

 

[Ikawaru]

Isn't NOFAP a warrior practice?

I hear some cultures adopt HALFFAP because they claim that stop ejaculation right before it happens helps enhance aggression in some military doctrines.

As wizards I would say fapping is healthy enough, especially as we spend more time reading and enhancing our knowledge/expertise/skill/spirit essence.

However, we shouldn't be lazy and just fap forever of course. There comes a time when you venture out and are confident in your skills and expertise to secure a sexual partner. This should be pretty obvious/common sense though. xD

 

[MidnightProphet]

The only magickal basis I've ever heard of for abstaining from ejaculating was in the D.O.P. Book III, and stated that demons can steal the seed from a man if he ejaculates (outside of a 'receptacle',) using the semen to impregnate a woman with a demon child.

On the ground research has confirmed that ejaculating in a woman can also produce demon spawn, so I personally don't get the import.

 

[Magpie]

The only magickal basis I've ever heard of for abstaining from ejaculating was in the D.O.P. Book III, and stated that demons can steal the seed from a man if he ejaculates (outside of a 'receptacle',) using the semen to impregnate a woman with a demon child.

On the ground research has confirmed that ejaculating in a woman can also produce demon spawn, so I personally don't get the import.

It begs a question: does the demon child an incubus creates with your stolen semen qualify for your child support?

 

[MidnightProphet]

It begs a question: does the demon child an incubus creates with your stolen semen qualify for your child support?

That's entirely up to the 9th Level District Court.

 

[Elontir]

Every guy saying NoFap changed their energy levels (and all the other perks) are likely experiencing a placebo effect and I just find it so funny how many guys you'll find online say otherwise.

You already pointed it out with the testing you mentioned, and it's an obvious question to ask. I always ask them - "If masturbating is ruining your life due to "lack of energy", why doesn't it affect people with sex lives that are as active or more active than your masturbation habits?".

They can never give a straight answer or they simply say "I don't know".

As long as you aren't going overboard like 3 times a day everyday, it won't impact you negatively when it comes to energy levels or anything else.

The entire NoFap phenomenon really just revolves around men as a collective internalizing the shame of "not getting laid" and "not having romantic success".

Masturbation is an in your face reminder that you are failing romantically, as the average man would not masturbate if he had a sex partner. This is why when they stop masturbating they get the placebo of "feeling better" and "feeling confident", because that failure is less apparent than before. Their romantic failures are no longer at the forefront of their psyche every single day.

There are exceptions. As a gay man, I've resolved to be solely sexual and completely abandon contact with other men. Reasons?

a) Grindr. Why do all my interactions with gay men have to be through this app? If the chances of anything natural and enjoyable are minimal, I'd rather have nothing at all. Because I feel like using Grindr is accepting crumbs and worse. Grindr is the place for all mentally and sexually ill men, so I pass.

b) And even if I were to give casual sex a chance, why should I contaminate my energy with someone of dubious spiritual hygiene? By being single, at least I know for sure that I'm not receiving entities or negative karma from a complete stranger.

c) Men who don't even know how to make love. The few encounters I've had left me unsatisfied, and they don't even know the art of sex. I already know myself, my fantasies, and my timing. If you're not going to overcome that or even bother trying to please (and be pleased), then what's the point? Moving on.