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Why is magic so sexual?

Saint_Awen

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So, sex and magic... Well it seems to me like sexuality and spiritual practice have always been intertwined. And I think that, sex being a primal form of union, brings forth forces that are equally primordial, in great quantity. I need to look into that too.
You folks are going to ruin my spotless internet history...
 

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Alt title: Why does chaos magick involve jacking off to sigils?

I just decided to make it more broad since I think other magical traditions involve some type of sex magick.

Yes I'm too scared too google this and I haven't touched Liber Null in a long time.
I believe Carroll had to step back from his leadership in IOT because he knew he was still seeking that "One" Sigil for a bountiful life of spiritual fulfillment.

In autumn of 2007 I authored a word/sigil out of thin air for my fictional medieval novel.

I would not know its true potential until 2015 when I read it and its counterpart backwards!

This sigil requires 2 steps...

1: the sigil(s) themselves
2: anger/anxiety suppression

Here goes...

Rule#1: aphrodisiacs start with L and end with N

Lesbian & Leiscerbettian

Leiscerbettian
->spell backwards, who you see?
->an imaginary spirit

Leiscerbette
->imaginary city
->spell backwards, who you see?
->an imaginary spirit

NOTE: "ette" sounds like "eddy"

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Rule#2: "Anger needs Oxygen"

⚠️ DO NOT HOLD YOUR BREATH! ⚠️

"Slow-Breathing" helps keep balanced levels of Oxygen & Carbon Dioxide.

Anger is Anxiety!
Anxiety is Anger!

Anger is Anxiety expressed outwards; Anxiety is Anger expressed inwards.

It is okay to get angry -just know the difference (see below)

"Rational Anger" (I lost my keys, my tire has a flat, etc)

"Irrational Anger" (I hate rainy days I hate the scar on my face, etc)

"Irrational Anger" is those things we have no control over.

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These things are now very simple to me. The narrative no longer belongs to the collective -but to each individual.

Good Luck!

PS- As for "Lesbian", both its imaginary spirits are Sappho & Atthis (of the greek poet, "Sappho")
 

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Alt title: Why does chaos magick involve jacking off to sigils?

I just decided to make it more broad since I think other magical traditions involve some type of sex magick.

Yes I'm too scared too google this and I haven't touched Liber Null in a long time.

Because, in my humble opinion, magick is charged by "life-wind", chi, prana, etc and this can flow out of a person in many ways. One of the most powerful is sexual release. Another would be breath (think chanting, playing a wind instrument, breath, spellwork) - a specific example of this is when people breath into effigies, or put incantations into food (and other bodily products in many folk traditions... the reason is the same, different intentions). When you do things like yoga, chi kung or acupressure you can literally feel it flow through you. It also carries your intention.
Other ways: attention/focus (meditation and visualization), touch, a variety of other bodily fluids.
 

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“An intellectual is a person who has discovered something more interesting than sex.”

I think A. Nox said this well with the post on altered consciousness. The human brain has a lot of systems interconnected. Things that affect one thing may affect others. I've noticed a pattern that a lot of herbs used for dream or spiritual enhancement also tend to fall under aphrodisiacs also (blue lotus and damiana are the two mentioned most often). Chaos magic just pokes the horny mental pathway first and frequently?
 

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“An intellectual is a person who has discovered something more interesting than sex.”

I think A. Nox said this well with the post on altered consciousness. The human brain has a lot of systems interconnected. Things that affect one thing may affect others. I've noticed a pattern that a lot of herbs used for dream or spiritual enhancement also tend to fall under aphrodisiacs also (blue lotus and damiana are the two mentioned most often). Chaos magic just pokes the horny mental pathway first and frequently?
I like this!
 

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@Thebes

Sex has never been "good" because of a certain, missing sigil. And has been missing for over 2500 years!

An intellectual thinks and speaks in words. A missing vocabulary has shown to stunt an intellectual's evolution.

I hear today's intellectuals still quoting this saying,

"Money & Power is the best aphrodisiac"

What today's intellectuals have "found better than sex" is slandering & physically assaulting those who do not serve the virtue-signalers -so much so that politicians have become idols & living gods.

1000s of years of overpowering the weak and the strong haven't yet learned anything better than maintaning endless wars.

Even when he is not horny, Mr Big Dick can not brag enough about how big his dick is -every 3 minutes
 

Thebes

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@Thebes

Sex has never been "good" because of a certain, missing sigil. And has been missing for over 2500 years!

An intellectual thinks and speaks in words. A missing vocabulary has shown to stunt an intellectual's evolution.

I hear today's intellectuals still quoting this saying,

"Money & Power is the best aphrodisiac"

What today's intellectuals have "found better than sex" is slandering & physically assaulting those who do not serve the virtue-signalers -so much so that politicians have become idols & living gods.

1000s of years of overpowering the weak and the strong haven't yet learned anything better than maintaning endless wars.

Even when he is not horny, Mr Big Dick can not brag enough about how big his dick is -every 3 minutes
I'm not sure how to respond to this. The quote was intended to be provocative and point out the opposite of the quick and dirty of Chaos magic. I would argue that most academics and intellectuals are unknown and unheard from, and even the most public rarely "physically assault" anyone. A long debate on the state of modern thought though might be beyond the scope of this thread. Still thanks for the reply.
 

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Alt title: Why does chaos magick involve jacking off to sigils?
Well i prefer using rage and anger for activating my sigils. Let the feeling grow and grow in your stomach and walk through your body will reach the throat then explode. Usually comes with a raising growl and ends with the destruction of the image of the sigil.
 

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I think it’s a complex subject, nuanced and multifaceted…lots of interesting perspectives here, and I’d say most likely have at least some degree of accuracy and are hitting on a more holistic, essential “version” of the reality. Human sex is special. In its ideal, intended form, it’s safe exposure and unbridled intimacy, oneness, connection. You can’t engineer that in any other way.
 
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