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Planting illness and diseases into enemies

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Hi guys. I was wondering what do you think about putting illness into somebody. I read that you can think about person who wrong you and send them their evil back with strong intention to get them sick. Do you think that it would be enough or that you have to do something more like a chant etc?
 

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That is a radical idea and problematic to implement, unless you are very experienced in magic. If your motivation is to get someone out of the way because they pose a threat to you, then I could understand the need for such an act, although even in that case there are other solutions. However, if your motivation is revenge, then you better think twice. You never know how a destructive magical act can turn against you. What if your victim has strong protection?
 

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I rarely did these acts but sometimes it wasn't possible to say no. You kind of lose the control and I can't blame anybody for that , sometimes it's nearly impossible to say no.
Yes, it's possible to do that. I had problems with people who harassed close people and caused problems to elderly people and children. This pissed me off so much. They were abusing their positions in indescribable ways. Colleagues suffered too.

One method is, if you're doing some kind of energy work, to direct everything with fierce anger, hatred, strong emotions, and demand for justice. In my cases it was justified because of severe injustice being done. These cases needed immediate actions.

It's a bit hard to explain, easier said than done. You need a charge of energy and emotions, massive hatred, a certain special state. This goes like a missile and events can take place.
Basically charges from practices. There are different options. This seems like physics, energy, directing, intentions = missiles = outcomes.

I always said that I don't want anybody to have permanent damage but to understand what they did wrong, for the situation to get solved in the least destructive way. It was more about what you sow that you reap. Bringing a mirrored effect. :unsure:
 

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I rarely did these acts but sometimes it wasn't possible to say no. You kind of lose the control and I can't blame anybody for that , sometimes it's nearly impossible to say no.
Yes, it's possible to do that. I had problems with people who harassed close people and caused problems to elderly people and children. This pissed me off so much. They were abusing their positions in indescribable ways. Colleagues suffered too.

One method is, if you're doing some kind of energy work, to direct everything with fierce anger, hatred, strong emotions, and demand for justice. In my cases it was justified because of severe injustice being done. These cases needed immediate actions.

It's a bit hard to explain, easier said than done. You need a charge of energy and emotions, massive hatred, a certain special state. This goes like a missile and events can take place.
Basically charges from practices. There are different options. This seems like physics, energy, directing, intentions = missiles = outcomes.

I always said that I don't want anybody to have permanent damage but to understand what they did wrong, for the situation to get solved in the least destructive way. It was more about what you sow that you reap. Bringing a mirrored effect. :unsure:
Thats what I thought. I had colleague who was truly evil and kept gossiping about everyone and one day she crossed the line. I felt destroy but then I felt such a huge hate against her that she fell sick for a weeks.
 

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Hi guys. I was wondering what do you think about putting illness into somebody. I read that you can think about person who wrong you and send them their evil back with strong intention to get them sick. Do you think that it would be enough or that you have to do something more like a chant etc?
Id say dont bother. Any enemy of yours is not worth your time. Learn magick to help yourself, not hurt others.
 

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Id say dont bother. Any enemy of yours is not worth your time. Learn magick to help yourself, not hurt others.
Honestly thats not what I want to do. I am not waking up with a list who will I hex today but if someone will do me harm then I do justified black magick. But thanks for good point.
 

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Even Jesus chased out of The Temple all the merchants...not so kind/soft of Him, right? ;) :cool:
we are living in duality..sometimes we have to protect ourselves using force..or accept being destroyed by others. That's the way it is. - Be a predator or a prey.🤷‍♂️
 

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Hi guys. I was wondering what do you think about putting illness into somebody. I read that you can think about person who wrong you and send them their evil back with strong intention to get them sick. Do you think that it would be enough or that you have to do something more like a chant etc?
I successfully did this psychically to a person who was abusing me and threatening to kill me when I was a young teenager. I was intending to actually eliminate the threat psychically but stopped short. This was successful every time I needed to do this (three times). The problem was that as a family member I couldn't get away from the abuser. And they already had a chronic illness so the psychic energy seems to have just exacerbated a situation that was already present. The level of psychic concentration that I had to develop was extreme. I was in effect in a trance although the first time I did this I was a terrified kid on a school bus. There are actually spells to cause evil to rebound as well as practices to create a shield to protect yourself.
 

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Honestly thats not what I want to do. I am not waking up with a list who will I hex today but if someone will do me harm then I do justified black magick. But thanks for good point.
Well, i see your way of thinking. But let me make this clear. Any magick that hurts others, even in a percieved self defense scenario, is not worth it. As i said before, use that magick for YOU. Protective magick actually is more effective than any kind of harmful magick is.

Using magick to harm others as opposed to protecting yourself is like drinking a beer vs a glass of absinthe.
 

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Hi guys. I was wondering what do you think about putting illness into somebody. I read that you can think about person who wrong you and send them their evil back with strong intention to get them sick. Do you think that it would be enough or that you have to do something more like a chant etc?
Yes, you can absolutely make someone ill with magick. No, just thinking it will not be enough. A simple starter technique is piercing a poppet with rusty nails. Obviously, that would be better as part of a larger ritual, divination first, black candles, waning/dark moon, day and hour of saturn, raising energy, extensive visualization, buried in a graveyard/crossroads, etc. You know, the usual.
Well, i see your way of thinking. But let me make this clear. Any magick that hurts others, even in a percieved self defense scenario, is not worth it. As i said before, use that magick for YOU. Protective magick actually is more effective than any kind of harmful magick is.

That is a radical idea and problematic to implement, unless you are very experienced in magic. If your motivation is to get someone out of the way because they pose a threat to you, then I could understand the need for such an act, although even in that case there are other solutions. However, if your motivation is revenge, then you better think twice. You never know how a destructive magical act can turn against you. What if your victim has strong protection?
There is nothing radical or problematic about curses of illness. They are ancient and so common as to be nearly universal. No destructive magick has ever turned against me. Every bit of it has been well worth it. My motivations have always been revenge. If I regret anything, it's that I haven't done more of it. Protective magick is not any more effective than baneful magick.

This is a black magick sub forum, not a knitting class. WTAF is this whimpering christian/lightworker pearl clutching.
 

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If you think you can accomplish it, go do it. You dont need the occult morals police and the stupid HR department bullshit takes on it. Just do it if you want to do it.

Backfires, bad juju, karma, whatever... This is the occult. This is magick. You don't need permission. If it works, come tell us. If it fucks up, come tell us.

Such strange pearls we clutch around here hahahaha I do appreciate seeing all the hypocrisy in the occult though, gives me a good laugh.
 

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If you think you can accomplish it, go do it. You dont need the occult morals police and the stupid HR department bullshit takes on it. Just do it if you want to do it.

Backfires, bad juju, karma, whatever... This is the occult. This is magick. You don't need permission. If it works, come tell us. If it fucks up, come tell us.

Such strange pearls we clutch around here hahahaha I do appreciate seeing all the hypocrisy in the occult though, gives me a good laugh.
Yeah, the whole “occult morality” thing is mostly noise.
What actually matters is results.
That’s the only metric that holds.
 

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There is nothing radical or problematic about curses of illness. They are ancient and so common as to be nearly universal. No destructive magick has ever turned against me. Every bit of it has been well worth it. My motivations have always been revenge. If I regret anything, it's that I haven't done more of it. Protective magick is not any more effective than baneful magick.

This is a black magick sub forum, not a knitting class. WTAF is this whimpering christian/lightworker pearl clutching.
I understand what you want to say, but I am speaking from my personal experience. Not all people are sheep. I was in anger, and precisely out of revenge, I went after a person who was helped by another person, older and more experienced in magic, and it really came back to me. I was the one who got sick, while that person suddenly recovered. Previously, I had been encouraged by some successes of that kind, but after this experience, I began to economize with that approach. That’s when I fully learned the meaning of the phrase that revenge is served cold. Rage is indeed an effective energy, but cold passion is more impressive and destructive. Patience is also the mother of terrible things. Impulsiveness can lead to a mistake. Being truly dark does not mean being impulsive but calculated.
 

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I personally thinks that the magick is neither black or white. Think of it like this. If you protect evil person from being punished then it is basically black magick. Same way if you punish someone truly evil so he/she gets what he/she deserves then ot is basically white magick. I would like to say that I am glad for any correction and your opinion. Feel free to argue with me if you dissagree.
 

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I understand what you want to say, but I am speaking from my personal experience. Not all people are sheep. I was in anger, and precisely out of revenge, I went after a person who was helped by another person, older and more experienced in magic, and it really came back to me. I was the one who got sick, while that person suddenly recovered. Previously, I had been encouraged by some successes of that kind, but after this experience, I began to economize with that approach. That’s when I fully learned the meaning of the phrase that revenge is served cold. Rage is indeed an effective energy, but cold passion is more impressive and destructive. Patience is also the mother of terrible things. Impulsiveness can lead to a mistake. Being truly dark does not mean being impulsive but calculated.
So? You started a fight and got wrecked? Instead of learning your lesson, you are coming on Black Magick sub forums and telling people not to do baneful magick? This is very similiar to the failed witches who convert to christianity, and then go on online anti witchcraft crusades.

Nothing "came back to you", it was sent back to you, and you didn't protect yourself from it. That's a skill issue on your part, and has nothing to do with anyone else. If Blue wants to magickally put illness on someone, thats up to them. Of course there are risks, all magick has risks.
I personally thinks that the magick is neither black or white. Think of it like this. If you protect evil person from being punished then it is basically black magick. Same way if you punish someone truly evil so he/she gets what he/she deserves then ot is basically white magick. I would like to say that I am glad for any correction and your opinion. Feel free to argue with me if you dissagree.
You can believe all of that, if you like. But those are your personal ethics. Most of the beings in the universe have personal ethics as well, some would align with yours, most would not, to varying degrees. There is no morality in this universe. If something can be done, the universe itself does not care if it is done, though some entities might. Anything you might call morality is entirely self imposed, and self enforced, by individuals or groups.

So, cast illness on your enemies if you wish! 😁
 

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So? You started a fight and got wrecked? Instead of learning your lesson, you are coming on Black Magick sub forums and telling people not to do baneful magick? This is very similiar to the failed witches who convert to christianity, and then go on online anti witchcraft crusades.

Nothing "came back to you", it was sent back to you, and you didn't protect yourself from it. That's a skill issue on your part, and has nothing to do with anyone else. If Blue wants to magickally put illness on someone, thats up to them. Of course there are risks, all magick has risks.

You can believe all of that, if you like. But those are your personal ethics. Most of the beings in the universe have personal ethics as well, some would align with yours, most would not, to varying degrees. There is no morality in this universe. If something can be done, the universe itself does not care if it is done, though some entities might. Anything you might call morality is entirely self imposed, and self enforced, by individuals or groups.

So, cast illness on your enemies if you wish! 😁
Well thats interesting concept. True is that some people are surrounded by an army of entities who protect them. Thats also one reason why you just cant hex leaders. It will become spiritual warfare.
 

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Well thats interesting concept. True is that some people are surrounded by an army of entities who protect them. Thats also one reason why you just cant hex leaders. It will become spiritual warfare.
It is clear that some people are in fact surrounded by entities who protect them. There is the idea, at least frim Jewish mysticism and possibly form Hellenic sources that echo that for everyone albeit in a weakened form (like one entity that can help protect a person maybe sometime, maybe all of the time but not completely). The people who are truly untouchable do have an army of entities in effect or several very powerful ones who protect them form all harm, except the harm that proceeds directly from themselves. Gary Lachman wrote a book that touches on this (I haven't read it yet) and his main assertion seems to be that powerful leaders and groups often have some magick behind them from some source. Even if tht is not the same thing, powerful magick protecting a person or group would attract entities.
 
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