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Strongest wards and shields?

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I know the LRP and it's uses, I know the Qaballistic Cross and the Sacred Chamber.
I've used mental wards and shields.


How does one know when they are competent enough with using them against stronger practitioners?


I was told by one practitioner that the LRP lights up the astral.
I was told by another practitioner that it has a 12 hour life.

I use the Sacred Chamber in favor over the Qaballistic Cross.

The "phoenix suit" was a visual exercise connecting with all five elements. First a root shoot and Vine suit to entangle the undesiraboe entities. Then I am the eye of the tornado making everything spin to the undesired. Then 0lumge 8nto the ocean drowning the undesired, then straight into the fire, and only I emerge as the phoenix does.

Here is a great link to two protection spells/rituals:
 
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Must mention both systems are western based on same roots in Catholicism regardless if one is atheist or not
Yes they follow the same roots as Catholicism, but remember catholicism follows everything from paganism in its origins and beliefs. its one in the same in many ways. Western based faith and eastern based faith and magick systems are close but follow different paths that lead to the same discovery.

What you presented is a good system for those who follow the western based faith and magick.
 
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Well, for atheists, I dont know, the entire point is something greater than ourselves exists or existed.
If you're opposed to Christianity or Judaism, Goetic/Qlippothic variants exist. As do different cultural LRPs/MPRs/QCs.
However, most of my background is Christian in nature. I know there is the Greek Orthodox and Russian Orthodox.

Thanks :)
 

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What you really need to do with regards to any ward or however you want to call it, is do it with confidence and have confidence that it works. If at any time you sense / imagine / fear that it isn't working anymore, then repeat it or switch to another one (temporarily).
Don't do it half-assed while scratching your ass.
I use LBRP daily and really love the completeness of it. There were times when there really was a lot of stress in my life and then I'd switch it up with the Star Ruby.
But confidence in (any of) your Magick is key
 

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But confidence in (any of) your Magick is key
This right here might be the strongest ward you may have.

Though, caution is good. I personally switched from LBRP to LIRP over time. I didn't see a reason to keep banishing for protection, while invoking godnames and achangels, literal or archetypal.

As a purely defensive resource I really like Master Protection Ritual, it was in one of those GOM books. Like Crowley said, LRP is more than a simple banishing tool.
 

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Like Crowley said, LRP is more than a simple banishing tool
Absolutely. When i read the instructions on the LBRP in Modern Magick i interpreted it as being a combination of invoking and banishing. Because Kraig didn't explicitly say the fifth pentagram is a banishing one as well, i concluded that he meant this was an invoking one.
I have some thoughts on the ritual I wrote in this thread:

 

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Yes they follow the same roots as Catholicism, but remember catholicism follows everything from paganism in its origins and beliefs. its one in the same in many ways. Western based faith and eastern based faith and magick systems are close but follow different paths that lead to the same discovery.

What you presented is a good system for those who follow the western based faith and magick.
Thats what i was saying, with out offending catholics in denial about the deception.
 
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Absolutely. When i read the instructions on the LBRP in Modern Magick i interpreted it as being a combination of invoking and banishing. Because Kraig didn't explicitly say the fifth pentagram is a banishing one as well, i concluded that he meant this was an invoking one.
I have some thoughts on the ritual I wrote in this thread:

But if we go right foot forward, this would be earth, and all else would be normal?
Will try yhvh tzabaoth left forward and Adonai ha aretz right forward.
 

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But if we go right foot forward, this would be earth, and all else would be normal?
Will try yhvh tzabaoth left forward and Adonai ha aretz right forward.
Thats what i was saying, with out offending catholics in denial about the deception.
none of these fancy hand signatures mean or do anything, its a poor interpretation of jewish and Babylonian folklore made up during medieval periods., people used to gather to hear good readers tell stories or watch them in puppet plays because they could not read or where aloud to -as we see again today happening with perv pedos and internet censorship - the same people today even claim to have bloodlines linked to those running the scams then, most got arrested in the past but the events had turned since the last 15-20 years with dnc. , but that who they are, every roman story also had one thing in common…MURDER, pre and post Jesus..also mostly cold murders…

and according to dead sea scrolls the Jesus stories changed allot over time and where blended with more pedo pagan rituals, sympathetic magic…so who ever is cursed believes jesus is god, god got nicked on a cross by his chosen people who where the threat to taking ignorant kings places since they where Literate, feared, hated by illiterates., jesus needs you to even exist more then you need him since he was made up in the first place as the boogie man story gong wrong into the hearts of ignorant illiterate puppet show - book reader fans who at some point carried around pendants as well with symbols giving them confidence..

so whenever the question came up about how this jesus is a god and why he could not help himself if he was nicked-cheated-no one even rose in his defense alike whistle blowers today, the illegal and criminal character assassination taking place under a title called cancel culture etc etc ..the sympathetic curse gong wrong answer is (dont worry) god will return here to this world at the end of time, maybe billions of generations after yours unless…..you can help it happen today…so in the meantime jesus needs you to murder more people, spill more blood and sing about those crazy bald heads like Bob Marley who was found by al anderson to of had 50 times the number of radiation doses to fight cancer..what did bob say? He sang “what was your reward for our love but slavery and stories about your god above’ so the god jesus is a roman myth for perverts to cherry pick who lives who dies and who ever falls for the sympathetic curse feels compelled to defend this god….the lowest form of a god…a lie.,

that lie did prove that people are still wonderful, compassionate, love and sacrifice for each other to make the world a better place as the real god created them and as the real creator instructed Abraham, isaac, israel to build a nation and return mankind and all back to their original state aka tikun olam…so when every jew is praying they are healing the mess others made altering, manipulating while playing god..this includes releasing trapped souls, helping ignorant understand, teaching how people can accept who they are and how to think for themselves not how false gods taught them WHAT TO THINK (indoctrination) so even as illiterate ignorant to their slave masters language understand what exodus is, why people left europe for americas and created the united states…basically once under a curse now consciousness.
 
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Okay, so your strongest wards.and shields would be none? Some Rosicrucian and other groups disbelieve in the power of black magic for their magical defense. That's all, just believing being untouchable.
 

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But if we go right foot forward, this would be earth, and all else would be normal?
It's just my interpretation, based in part on an image in Agrippa that has a man inside a pentagram looking at you. If you then take the elements the way they are distributed on the pentagram, this gives Fire = Left foot, Earth = Right foot.
Whether or not this is how it was intended by the unknown creator of the LBRP isn't that important. If I step forward with left, and "link" the left foot to Fire, then I step forward with "aggression" or "authority".
If you (and / or the entire world) say that the left foot is Earth and by stepping forward with left you "materialize" or "solidify" your action of banishing that's totally fine with me.

none of these fancy hand signatures mean or do anything
Well, in themselves they may have no effect. But with ritual you link gestures and actions to outcomes / states / feelings. So you are triggering a response in yourself and those beings "around you" that you have built up through association.
Just like a nazi-salute is just a gesture, but I think you will agree that it causes an effect in those who see you make it.
 

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Putting an artificial meaning to something is actually a very practical tool. Bardons work on creating ones own mudras definitely come to mind. There is also Crowleys "repeating a name until it gains magickal power" in Liber ABA.

Sigil magick is this process but reversed, for example.
 

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I recently learnt that when you're setting up wards, you have to constantly go back to the same spot and it all over again or as many times you feel that is needed. Which I don't recommend.

Setting up wards can be as easy as going to your front door and making the sign of pentagram just like what you would do with a wand, and inhale exhale while visualising the pentagram glowing with each breath. You can choose whatever colour you like that matches your intent.

I overly exhausted myself by doing it every day for a week.

But if you do this than most of what I said above probably isn't necessary to do.
 

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Fuego I think you should come up with a practice that carries you higher in your practice while also giving you excellent defensive resources. A dynamic ritual.

Lbrp obviously comes to mind but create one for yourself. Nothing beats a self-tailored rite.
 
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Fuego I think you should come up with a practice that carries you higher in your practice while also giving you excellent defensive resources. A dynamic ritual.

Lbrp obviously comes to mind but create one for yourself. Nothing beats a self-tailored rite.
I'm thinking AA or OTO, whomever is the one on one teacher student training.
 
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