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[Opinion]True or Not? I heard through the grapevine that you can utilize your urine in a honey/sweetening jar spell to encourage obsession vs love in a target.
This seems counter-intuitive to me as I've only heard of people doing that in domination work and it seems like it would ruin a good honey jar. Admittedly though I've never tried anything like this before or had the desire to try something like that. Have any of you guys tried anything like this before or heard of anything like this? Seems pretty interesting you gotta admit.
This seems counter-intuitive to me as I've only heard of people doing that in domination work and it seems like it would ruin a good honey jar. Admittedly though I've never tried anything like this before or had the desire to try something like that. Have any of you guys tried anything like this before or heard of anything like this? Seems pretty interesting you gotta admit.
So yeah, if your object is to coerce/force/dominate "them", but it's much more fun if they naturally "Want" to Jump Your Bones!
Personally, I don't like coercive (Smelly Urine) spells, but that's just me. The Only Way to be Sure though is to give it a Go, and let us Know!
So yeah, if your object is to coerce/force/dominate "them", but it's much more fun if they naturally "Want" to Jump Your Bones!
Personally, I don't like coercive (Smelly Urine) spells, but that's just me. The Only Way to be Sure though is to give it a Go, and let us Know!
Well I'm not just not a big fan of wasting resources and the idea of peeing into honey jar from honey I just spent $10 or $11 on kinda drives me up a wall personally. Also I don't have much use for something like that at the moment. There are a few people I kinda like but I don't like them so much as to create potential stalkers out of them. I might consider using this on a future employer though so I can rise through the ranks faster lol.
I think it would "alter" the Honey Jar spell just enough to be somewhat, maybe like this:
Works great for "marking out your territory" that's "influencing", there's a biological link in there somewhere?
- Just Kidding!
That makes sense logically, although traditionally in Hoodoo and Trad Witchcraft, bodily fluids are often used in domination spells of varying form. Semen for men or menstrual blood for women both for sexual domination usually or more accurately obsession which is what it creates. Urine on the other hand, might be tied to domination spells because in nature when any animal wants to symbolically dominate another, they spray them to mark their territory and perhaps humiliate the other party.
I think it would "alter" the Honey Jar spell just enough to be somewhat, maybe like this:
Works great for "marking out your territory" that's "influencing", there's a biological link in there somewhere?
- Just Kidding!
This is how spells get finely "crafted", by sitting in the pub with fellows of the craft and discussing them: "Wait a minute, if I add 30ml of rancid urine, that'll do it for damn sure!". I know, I've had Much Stranger conversations than this!
This is how spells get finely "crafted", by sitting in the pub with fellows of the craft and discussing them: "Wait a minute, if I add 30ml of rancid urine, that'll do it for damn sure!". I know, I've had Much Stranger conversations than this!
This seems counter-intuitive to me as I've only heard of people doing that in domination work and it seems like it would ruin a good honey jar. Admittedly though I've never tried anything like this before or had the desire to try something like that. Have any of you guys tried anything like this before or heard of anything like this? Seems pretty interesting you gotta admit.
I don't know about urine, but in our regions women have been using their monthly blood for love spells since ancient times. And as you correctly noted, the object of the love spell becomes submissive. But there is a downside to this technique. The bewitched person actually turns into a zombie. It is unclear what is more there - love or submission. With respect.
This seems counter-intuitive to me as I've only heard of people doing that in domination work and it seems like it would ruin a good honey jar. Admittedly though I've never tried anything like this before or had the desire to try something like that. Have any of you guys tried anything like this before or heard of anything like this? Seems pretty interesting you gotta admit.
Well, as most people know and or should know, urine is used for domination over said target. Typically, I use it in curses and baneful work however, I have never thought of using it in a spell of this type. But in theory, it should work.
I don't know about urine, but in our regions women have been using their monthly blood for love spells since ancient times. And as you correctly noted, the object of the love spell becomes submissive. But there is a downside to this technique. The bewitched person actually turns into a zombie. It is unclear what is more there - love or submission. With respect.
Oh no offense taken at all! Please feel free to express yourself! I'm very familiar with the process by now and have tried them out a lot or researched them. In love spells like these, what is created is not actual love, but romantic or erotic obsession. These spells often came about as women in many cultures throughout much of history, could not survive materially or just at all, without a man. It's just a sad fact. So actual romantic love, as conceived in the western christian post-victorian times, was not the goal at all. In many non-christian cultures that kind of love was not the primary conception of what we know as love now. It was often tied to subjugation of the opposite sex in some way, often related to possession of them, their biological abilities etc... So many spells were created to reverse this process magickally back at men when agency was stripped from them legally.
In Ancient Greece and Rome there existed numerous Goddesses with a primarily female following related to folk practices we would call witchcraft geared primarily at eking a living in a male dominated world. Similar figures existed in other cultures with similar practices. In Germanic and Norse lands it was Frig, Freya, and Nerthus. In Celtic Lands it was Brig, Brigit, Brigantia, Bright, Ceredwen, or Rhiannon. In Slavic lands it was figures like Baba Yaga. In Egypt it was Isis. Among the Yoruba it was Obtala, Oya, and Yamaya. In India it was Kali and Lakshmi. In Summer it was Inanna. In Latin America nowadays it's Santa Muerte etc... and etc...
All these figures have or had folk practices around them we would associate with or call "witchcraft". Often times they were geared towards carving out a living in a male dominated world. In many cases that was sexual domination, as being cast aside for a younger women along with your kids, had serious communal and often material ramifications for said people being cast aside. So as bad as figures like Hera in Greek Myth for example might seem... the cost of doing nothing in said situations was far worse. This was double or even triple for those who weren't a immortal Goddesses lol.
Yeah but some of these are bit extreme. I've done spells like this without resorting to going as far as collecting sweat, nail clippings, or worse feces. I suppose it would greatly increase the sympathetic link but it's not always necessary to go to that extreme. Also getting these things is not always easy or legal for those not in government invested in peoples permanent subjugation by means spiritual nukes.
Well, as most people know and or should know, urine is used for domination over said target. Typically, I use it in curses and baneful work however, I have never thought of using it in a spell of this type. But in theory, it should work.
Yeah it's a interesting idea. In a romantic context though, this is not something I would want personally, as I desire a partner that adds to my life. Not someone I might potentially have to treat as a child following me around.
Oh yes, by now, I'd say so. I just wanted to put the topic up for debate here to further understand the mechanisms behind it. I have my own intuitions, but I always find useful to gather outside feedback to expand upon why I feel something, casting more light upon things that are by nature murky.
