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Hey everyone, as you can see from the title, I’m looking for help to find out which demon can assist with the following tasks. I’ve already read a couple of books, but I would also value your opinions and experiences. The task is simply to make two parents have a different opinion of me—they aren't mine. I'm just looking for them to accept me, and I don't mind if they have to be bent to my will, since what I'm ultimately looking for is for them to change their negative ideas about me into positive ones.

Thank you very much for your time in reading this.
 

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I'll get a lot of hate for this, and comment 'no one asked your opinion, there was a question asked', but this is the typical moment when one should chose to grow and understand themselves as a person instead of trying to make the world to do that for them. Yes, it seems far more comfortable expecting everyone to see you as you want them to see you, without you having to change.

This is the moment when you should ask yourself some very pressing questions, before you even proceed.
Why do you even care about what they think of you in the first place? - It's a question you should be able to answer for yourself.
Why they have a negative opinion on you? - Again, a question for yourself. Perhaps they are right about how they think of you, or perhaps, they just don't understand you, and you'll need more time and decent communication, quality time to help them see what is hidden.
Can't you change for the better to gain this desired positive view instead of spiritually brainwashing them into thinking for a short while? - One more to the homework.

The answer is: While it is not impossible to achieve this, it will not solve any of your issues, and it will not be genuine love and acceptance towards you. Remember, It'll be but an illusion without honest acceptance, without honest positivity and affection; a lie, to please yourself, and eventually, it'll get challenged by reality, fall apart and fade. Why? Because you won't become a different person, and they'll see it.
ㅤYes, it is possible to change their view for a while, then bump into a brickwall, and have that collapse, sometimes sooner than later, leaving behind more damage than before.

Demons, by the way, can and possibly will deliver this for you (if you have something to offer), but the consequences won't be pleasant, and they won't apologise for the aftermath. I've seen this happening countless time, both with parents, relatives and exes.
ㅤIf you want to brainwash people and get a bigger slap into the face eventually, instead of you turning better, or perhaps learning how to step out of others' shadows and craving of their acceptance, you have every tools out there, have fun.
 

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Hey everyone, as you can see from the title, I’m looking for help to find out which demon can assist with the following tasks. I’ve already read a couple of books, but I would also value your opinions and experiences. The task is simply to make two parents have a different opinion of me—they aren't mine. I'm just looking for them to accept me, and I don't mind if they have to be bent to my will, since what I'm ultimately looking for is for them to change their negative ideas about me into positive ones.

Thank you very much for your time in reading this.
I know one so far and thats Paimon. You might get consequences for doing this like the other poster said. So be warned. Now I'm talk to them.

I'll get a lot of hate for this, and comment 'no one asked your opinion, there was a question asked', but this is the typical moment when one should chose to grow and understand themselves as a person instead of trying to make the world to do that for them. Yes, it seems far more comfortable expecting everyone to see you as you want them to see you, without you having to change.
No. This is the perspective of someone part of the dominant culture. Sometimes maybe it is on you to change for the better and learn and grow. But with this logic how do you deal with Racism? Do you just change so much to become the absolute standard of perfection? No. Sometimes the world needs changing too.
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This can also apply to misogyny and other topics of the like
 
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No. This is the perspective of someone part of the dominant culture. Sometimes maybe it is on you to change for the better and learn and grow. But with this logic how do you deal with Racism? Do you just change so much to become the absolute standard of perfection? No. Sometimes the world needs changing too.
What 'racism' has to do with my own life as an individual? The world is changing whether you want it or not. It will change to directions you may love or hate. Will you sit, and wait, or you start living your life, taking responsibility that belong to you and you only, or find excuses and blame anyone but yourself, while you wasting your time, and time is wasting you?

As a person, I don't care about racism, misogyny and whatever other topics, by the way. Not even the slightest. I don't try to change humanity to be a certain way, because it is not within my ability to do so. If you think you can pull it off, go for it.

I myself, I don't hate anyone (not even my sexual abusers or attempting kidnappers). I just accept that people are people, life is life, and it is not always easy, so you either stand up and do something for yourself (no one else is obliged, but yourself), or you can spend your time mourning a life you never lived.

I am not responsible for others nearly as close as I am responsible for myself.
I follow this main principle. I have no collective influence over humanity, nor society, but I can help people who find me, read me, or seek for me. If my duty would be to prune humanity from racism (or whatever else you dislike), I'd have given the ability to do so, but it is not. In the other hand, the ability to handle myself wholly, more than anything else around me is given, so I'm more than fine with focusing on myself, thank you.
 
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What 'racism' has to do with my own life as an individual? The world is changing whether you want it or not. It will change to directions you may love or hate. Will you sit, and wait, or you start living your life, taking responsibility that belong to you and you only, or find excuses and blame anyone but yourself, while you wasting your time, and time is wasting you?

I myself, I don't hate anyone (not even my sexual abusers or attempting kidnappers). I just accept that people are people, life is life, and it is not always easy, so you either stand up and do something for yourself (no one else is obliged, but yourself), or you can spend your time mourning a life you never lived.
I didn't say you should try to fix racism. You don't have to try to fix racism. I was just providing a counterexample since your logic was flawed.

I'm glad your able to move on with your life. If you don't want to be interested in that cause then thats fine. I am personally and others are so we're fine.

Thank you for your response but please do imply what I do not mean to imply. I truly do not mind what you do personally with your own life.
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Please do not laugh at my response. Or atleast provide why you are laughing
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For me it may seem now like there is no hope. That injustice will prevail but so long as I march to the beat of my own drum. So long as I keep going and persist that is enough.
 
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Trying to find some demon or some method to make people like you is you centering everything around their opinion. Even if it worked, you'd still be stuck needing them to see you a certain way. That's not really control, love, acceptance, etc. That feels like dependence with extra steps to me.

Yes you can control how other people feel about you, but trying to force it (magically or otherwise) usually just makes things worse because you're refusing to deal with the situation in a healthy way. You're just slapping a bandaid on the situation.

Anyway, the only part you actually have control over is how you show up every day and whether you keep putting yourself in situations where you're not respected or accepted.

If they dont like you, that sucks but sometimes the move is to stop chasing their approval instead of trying to bend it. Focus on being the best version of yourself and spend your energy on people who don't need convincing.
 

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Kind of bouncing off what posters have said:
The Universe is ultimately a reflection of you , as an individual, and it resonates with what you, yourself are perceiving and putting out, with what you are imagining, and focussed on.
The easiest way to get someone to 'accept you' , is to accept them first, as you, yourself. It's called consensus reality for a reason, and the easiest way to 'bend' it, is to change yourself and your own view.

As simple and perhaps cheesy as that may sound....
 

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Many here are giving you good advice.

But since you are on a magic forum, I will never tell people not to first go to sorcery to get what you want out of life. From there comes the wisdom from having lived it. Through this process you gain self-knowledge, and then can make informed decisions on who you wish to become in the future.

A Southern Conjure / Brujeria with Demons Approach

For suggestions on what Southern Conjure / Brujeria with demons looks like, see: JSK Verum: Conjureman Ali - 'Verum Hoodoo Results' (2011)

This as a legit alternative approach to working a full evocation, that resembles more a Folk Catholic Novena. Get their photos and put them in a glass jar with sweet syrup to make a Sweetening Jar . Glue the seal on the demon on the underside of the lid. Read up on African- American Hoodoo / and Latino Brujeria for other herbs to add, but also not really necessary. Don't use honey (making it a Honey Jar) because honey is "slow" like molasses. Use syrup, which is more fluid.

Just because the Grimorium Verum is my deal, burn a tea-light candle on the lid, another one for the demon, and extra tea-lights for any of their superiors up the Infernal Hierarchy that are called to 'get a handle on them' , and use the Astrochios Prayer to call them. Do this for 3 to 9 consecutive days to "get their attention" if you don't already have pacted allies standing by. Say want you want out loud, with your voice. For a number of reasons.

Even if you do not see or hear anything, assume they are listening and checking you out. Complete the ritual as if they are there. And honestly, they will be. Even with these simple little cantrips. Your expectation here is big part of part of it.

Learn to listen and give them something in return. The candle in the jar is part of it, but there may be more. A pissed-off demon is not something you wish to deal with. Tell them what you want, and what you don't want (meaning give them constraints ). This second part is very important, and don't listen those who tell you it hurts their feelings.

Demons tend toward overkill a bit, like launching nukes at a mosquito. But you can mitigate it by giving them constraints. Tell them out loud - do not assume they can read your mind - what you want and do not want. I have made the mistake of conjuring them and just turning them loose, no-hold barred.

Again, the nature of the spirit you call will "flavor" the working and the entire region in their wake. Do you want that kind of influence? I once called the hot Petwo Lwa, Met Kalfou, to deal with meddling in-laws, who then promptly crashed their car and were injured more than I wished. Do you want to deal with this kind of outcome?

Sorcery with hot spirits is like a gun. Don't point it unless you are going to "kill" someone. Not literally, but that is a real possibility. Mitigate that a bit by telling them very straight forward them to like, NOT, do that. It is your reality they are playing in, not you in theirs.
 

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Frankly, ignore the pablum and just go for it. It might not work, but it isn't as hard as people think it is- unless parents are Grand Wizards of KKK and you're black or something on that level.
Note that demons are a risky class of spirits and actual grimoire magick is usually pain in the ass due to all the tools needed. Try looking into folk magick, or even evoke spirits of Venus as they govern friendship, love and affection (and they won't bite your head off). Maybe make second pentacle of Venus with first pentacle on the back and call on those angels from the first and tell them to make the parents like you and be affectionate towards you.
 

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Maybe make second pentacle of Venus with first pentacle on the back

Yep yep. Sage advice! FYI, you can make a Venusian Sweetening Jar by swapping out the daimon's seal with the pentacle, per WonderFire's suggestion. Then you would use the psalms and the invocations from the KoS.

Also neither is really totally necessary. That said, having extra minds makes the working (trabajo) go more quckly, and we are we are calling the extra mind of the spirits/ angels of the herbs and honey already. The daimonic, Solomonic, Angelic, or pagan god seals are calling in the big guns for their help, which will speed up timelines.
 

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I'll get a lot of hate for this, and comment 'no one asked your opinion, there was a question asked', but this is the typical moment when one should chose to grow and understand themselves as a person instead of trying to make the world to do that for them. Yes, it seems far more comfortable expecting everyone to see you as you want them to see you, without you having to change.

This is the moment when you should ask yourself some very pressing questions, before you even proceed.
Why do you even care about what they think of you in the first place? - It's a question you should be able to answer for yourself.
Why they have a negative opinion on you? - Again, a question for yourself. Perhaps they are right about how they think of you, or perhaps, they just don't understand you, and you'll need more time and decent communication, quality time to help them see what is hidden.
Can't you change for the better to gain this desired positive view instead of spiritually brainwashing them into thinking for a short while? - One more to the homework.

The answer is: While it is not impossible to achieve this, it will not solve any of your issues, and it will not be genuine love and acceptance towards you. Remember, It'll be but an illusion without honest acceptance, without honest positivity and affection; a lie, to please yourself, and eventually, it'll get challenged by reality, fall apart and fade. Why? Because you won't become a different person, and they'll see it.
ㅤYes, it is possible to change their view for a while, then bump into a brickwall, and have that collapse, sometimes sooner than later, leaving behind more damage than before.

Demons, by the way, can and possibly will deliver this for you (if you have something to offer), but the consequences won't be pleasant, and they won't apologise for the aftermath. I've seen this happening countless time, both with parents, relatives and exes.
ㅤIf you want to brainwash people and get a bigger slap into the face eventually, instead of you turning better, or perhaps learning how to step out of others' shadows and craving of their acceptance, you have every tools out there, have fun.
My God, all of this. Speaking as someone who has invoked Goetic demons regularly over the years, I get good results with them as long as I'm also doing my shadow work. But far too many people interested in demonology really need to be told this. Couldn't have said it better myself.
 
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