[Opinion] African Dream H experience

[pixel_fortune]

Okay so this was WAY more effective than Blue Lotus

The first thing I tried was something called "Ultimate Dream Blend" - I won't link to it, but they give the exact ingredients

 

[pixel_fortune]

Okay so this was WAY more effective than the Blue Lotus. I mean I took it for dreams not ritual work but it was such a noticeable effect

I will talk about the effects of African Dream Root by itself further down, but the most effective version I tried was "Ultimate Dream Blend" from an Australian online store called Druid Alchemy - they give the exact ingredients though, and I will give the recipe below. It's just ground-up herbs that you stir into water and drink immediately, so doesn't require specialist knowledge/equipment to recreate

Effects
The main effect was to make my dreams have a much longer, coherent narrative, and much more real-feeling and memorable. The "extended narrative" is a big deal because it gives it much more meaning. I've done no lucid dreaming training but I imagine it would also give you much more opportunities to notice something is impossible, and become lucid

Normally dreams are like "so we were doing a heist on a bank but my high school English teacher worked there and then somehow I was back in high school but I haven't studied for the exam and then the exam turned out to be a foot race but across lava but I'd forgotten my lava boots" - it shifts scenarios without resolving the previous plot problem

When I took this blend, it was like "we were doing a heist on a bank but my English teacher worked there" but then the whole dream is an extended narrative attempting to pull off the heist, things going wrong, trying to fix them - much more like a proper story, and much much longer in the one scenario. The dreams may be more memorable just because they fit more into waking-life memory style (coherent story structure). And just like, more fun!

I will note here that I typically have fairly weak dreams and don't remember them that often unless I'm actively keeping a dream diary (which I'm not at the moment), so this was a dramatic effect for me

My partner tried the blend and had the same effect: vivid, extended, coherent narrative

I was a bit sleepier the next day, but my partner wasn't. It could be just the melatonin in the blend, or it could be that it works by keeping you in REM sleep longer (which is not the most restful phase of sleep)

African Dream Root by itself
After a washout period, I also took African Dream Root (about 250g of one with 20% Saponins). It had the same effect of a longer, more coherent narrative, however the dream was less vivid, more ephemeral. I remember my Blend dreams without having to try that hard, but the African Dream Root dreams fade quickly without the usual memory solidifying you have to do. Still worth doing, and if I hadn't previously had the Blend, I'd have been delighted by results. I'm still delighted tbh.

Unlike Dream Blend (which you shouldn't take daily), African Dream Root becomes more effective if you take it a few days in a row. I still plan on taking days off though.

It was in the form of a resin and I just broke it into small pieces and swallowed it like tablets - that's probably not the recommended way

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Neither of these caused "teaching dreams", they were just random but I haven't taken it a tonne. I can imagine you would get way more out of a teaching dream when it did arrive - but this doesn't trigger them as far as I can tell. I would ABSOLUTELY make a policy of taking this the night of any major ritual

Ultimate Dream Blend recipe
The list below is for 500mg - the standard dose is 250-500mg. (I took 250)

• African Dream Root – Triterpenoid Saponins 98% 50mg
• Mugwort – Thujone 45% 5mg
• Passionflower – Chrysin 98% 50mg
• Passionflower – GABA 99% 100mg
• Mexican Dream Herb – Germacranolides 99% 5mg
• Griffonia Simplicifolia – 5-HTP 98% 100mg
• Melatonin 100% 10mg
• Blue Lotus Extract – Nuciferine 10% 180mg

I think it's important to note that these are all high quality extracts with guaranteed amount of relevant active ingredient.

However, since I found just African Dream Root alone to have effects albeit less so, I think putting together even half of these ingredients, or with an imperfect ratio etc, would be worth experimenting with.

My dosage hasn't been precise because I'm just using a scoop, not weighing on a herb scale

The half-life of the Blend is longer than 24 hours so if you take it two days in a row, the second dose should be halved. Then you should take a break for a few days.

 

[Ancient]

I'm curious to hear more about this. How much, what form, how did you ingest it? What makes you say it was more effective than Blue Lotus? Was it best for creating vividness, memories, strange concepts or experiences?

 

[Ancient]

Oh, here it is lol.

 

[pixel_fortune]

Mods I know you don't like to delete threads, but this seems to be a double post of just my first paragraph of my "real" post, so please consider it!

Everyone else, please see this post for proper details:

[Opinion] - African Dream Root experience

Okay so this was WAY more effective than the Blue Lotus. I mean I took it for dreams not ritual work but it was such a noticeable effect I will talk about the effects of African Dream Root by itself further down, but the most effective version I tried was "Ultimate Dream Blend" from an...

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[pixel_fortune]

Ha ha I was so confused by your other comment because I was like , I'm pretty sure I answered all that! Don't know why there's that other double post with no info, although I'm happy to assume user error on my part

 

[Xingtian]

Thanks for the info, I had tried some other supplement called Dream Leaf (I think mugwort is the main ingredient) with some good but fleeting results. My main problem is with remembering my dreams.

 

[pixel_fortune]

My main problem is with remembering my dreams.

Do I have the post for you!

I also used to remember like maybe one dream a month at best

Please don't tune out as soon as you hear "dream diary" because I bet you've already tried that and it didn't work.

There's a small but absolutely crucial difference (pt 3. Write down something every morning EVEN IF YOU DON'T REMEMBER ANYTHING. More details / neurological reasoning in post)

"How to remember your dreams (from someone who never could until a a few months ago)"

[Tutorial] - How to remember your dreams (from someone who never could until a a few months ago)

So I almost never remembered my dreams - maybe once every two months But then I tried a practice to change that, and it's actually almost embarrassing how quickly it worked. Like, within 1-2 weeks. At first just whispy traces and then fully formed scenes. After 38 years of never remembering...

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[stratamaster78]

Man @pixel_fortune that's really cool that you found something that works for you dreams.

I was trying Blue Lotus more for my Ritual work to try and enhance my Focus and Trance which it did do but I didn't notice it doing anything different with my Dreams.

I use to take Skate Liver Oil for Vivid and Lucid dreams and for a time it worked but then for some reason it just stopped.

I also developed really bad insomnia issues a few years ago to the point that I have to take HUGE amounts of Melatonin to sleep now.

I have to take 100 to 140 + MG's of Melatonin to Sleep now... Like 10-20 X's the amount of a normal person.

But when I sleep now it's just nothing but a field of black darkness and when I dream it 's like I'm aware of a narrative even if it's weird and jumps around but at the same time it's abstract because it like I can't 'see' what's happening.

I use to get Night Terrors because knowing something is happening but it being 'in the dark' made it worse.

It's kind of hard to explain.

I guess I'm trying to describe the dream equivalent of what people have in waking life who can't visualize something like an Apple in their mind... Aphantasia I believe it's called.

That's what my dreams are like.... I understand the concept of what's happening but I can't see it.

It's really strange and sometimes scary.

But anyways I wish I could find something again that would help me have vivid dreams and remember them better so that I could process whatever traumas are trying to manifest during sleep.

 

[Lemongrass00]

Okay so this was WAY more effective than the Blue Lotus. I mean I took it for dreams not ritual work but it was such a noticeable effect

I will talk about the effects of African Dream Root by itself further down, but the most effective version I tried was "Ultimate Dream Blend" from an Australian online store called Druid Alchemy - they give the exact ingredients though, and I will give the recipe below. It's just ground-up herbs that you stir into water and drink immediately, so doesn't require specialist knowledge/equipment to recreate

Effects
The main effect was to make my dreams have a much longer, coherent narrative, and much more real-feeling and memorable. The "extended narrative" is a big deal because it gives it much more meaning. I've done no lucid dreaming training but I imagine it would also give you much more opportunities to notice something is impossible, and become lucid

Normally dreams are like "so we were doing a heist on a bank but my high school English teacher worked there and then somehow I was back in high school but I haven't studied for the exam and then the exam turned out to be a foot race but across lava but I'd forgotten my lava boots" - it shifts scenarios without resolving the previous plot problem

When I took this blend, it was like "we were doing a heist on a bank but my English teacher worked there" but then the whole dream is an extended narrative attempting to pull off the heist, things going wrong, trying to fix them - much more like a proper story, and much much longer in the one scenario. The dreams may be more memorable just because they fit more into waking-life memory style (coherent story structure). And just like, more fun!

I will note here that I typically have fairly weak dreams and don't remember them that often unless I'm actively keeping a dream diary (which I'm not at the moment), so this was a dramatic effect for me

My partner tried the blend and had the same effect: vivid, extended, coherent narrative

I was a bit sleepier the next day, but my partner wasn't. It could be just the melatonin in the blend, or it could be that it works by keeping you in REM sleep longer (which is not the most restful phase of sleep)

African Dream Root by itself
After a washout period, I also took African Dream Root (about 250g of one with 20% Saponins). It had the same effect of a longer, more coherent narrative, however the dream was less vivid, more ephemeral. I remember my Blend dreams without having to try that hard, but the African Dream Root dreams fade quickly without the usual memory solidifying you have to do. Still worth doing, and if I hadn't previously had the Blend, I'd have been delighted by results. I'm still delighted tbh.

Unlike Dream Blend (which you shouldn't take daily), African Dream Root becomes more effective if you take it a few days in a row. I still plan on taking days off though.

It was in the form of a resin and I just broke it into small pieces and swallowed it like tablets - that's probably not the recommended way

--

Neither of these caused "teaching dreams", they were just random but I haven't taken it a tonne. I can imagine you would get way more out of a teaching dream when it did arrive - but this doesn't trigger them as far as I can tell. I would ABSOLUTELY make a policy of taking this the night of any major ritual

Ultimate Dream Blend recipe
The list below is for 500mg - the standard dose is 250-500mg. (I took 250)

• African Dream Root – Triterpenoid Saponins 98% 50mg
• Mugwort – Thujone 45% 5mg
• Passionflower – Chrysin 98% 50mg
• Passionflower – GABA 99% 100mg
• Mexican Dream Herb – Germacranolides 99% 5mg
• Griffonia Simplicifolia – 5-HTP 98% 100mg
• Melatonin 100% 10mg
• Blue Lotus Extract – Nuciferine 10% 180mg

I think it's important to note that these are all high quality extracts with guaranteed amount of relevant active ingredient.

However, since I found just African Dream Root alone to have effects albeit less so, I think putting together even half of these ingredients, or with an imperfect ratio etc, would be worth experimenting with.

My dosage hasn't been precise because I'm just using a scoop, not weighing on a herb scale

The half-life of the Blend is longer than 24 hours so if you take it two days in a row, the second dose should be halved. Then you should take a break for a few days.

Never heard of this blend, will definitely look into it. Have you ever tried Galantamine? I read about it in a lucid dreaming book and tried it and it is very intense.

 

[Diluculo_DelFuego]

So taking the dream blend on a sunday night-monday night, what occurs if you do an Air LIRP and a Luna LIRH on top of taking the blend?
Also, how much does it cost for 1000mg of the Dream Blend?

 

[Yazata]

Great report @pixel_fortune
Makes me want to give it another try

 

[pixel_fortune]

I have to take 100 to 140 + MG's of Melatonin to Sleep now... Like 10-20 X's the amount of a normal person.

Whoah that's like 100x normal! I was already thinking "the 10mg melatonin in this is more than I'd be comfortable taking regularly". I'm so sorry man - insomnia cycle sucks (still you're doing well not to be habituated to benzos or whatever)

Have you ever tried Galantamine?

I have not!

taking the dream blend on a sunday night-monday night, what occurs if you do an Air LIRP and a Luna LIRH on top of taking the blend?

Not sure! I don't want to experiment with that right now because Helios Unbound operation is so so focused on solar energy, Tiphareth etc.
But I can see what you're thinking, it's a good idea!

Also, how much does it cost for 1000mg of the Dream Blend?

So the smallest amount you can buy is 10g (10,000mg: 20-40 serves) which is $16 Australian (about $11 US dollars). It's cheap. Shipping from Australia to US is typically expensive but they could send 10g in a padded letter envelope rather than as a parcel, so it might not be too bad.

If you wanted to make it yourself by buying the ingredients locally, it'd be more expensive because you'd probably have to buy a minimum 5 or 10g of each ingredient and make a big batch. I would guess around US$40 but that's pretty speculative

You might also be able to compare the ingredients list to stuff available in the US and see if you can find something similar, even if it wasn't identical

 

[Signs & Sounds]

Hmmm….. ultimate dream blend sounds interesting, might have to try and source some ingredients.
I found an essential oils inhaler called Lucid Dreams at our local herb shop that produces similar effects of stability, coherence, and vividness in my dreams just by smelling prior to sleep.
The level of extremely detailed visual content that I can recall is pretty astounding to say the least.

It’s a blend of mugwort, clary sage, anise and clove. Totally worth the $6-8 usd that I paid for it.

 

[Diluculo_DelFuego]

Ive decided to try this blend, especially with the ongoing work and rise in grade.
My dreams have tapered off over the past week with a rise in sore arms and shoulders, and decrase in psychiatric drugs, caffeine and nicotine.
My opinion is marijuana is useful, but alters dreaming, nicotine and caffeine in moderation affect dreaming. Decrease of antipsych drugs alter dreaming.
So it would be interesting to do all in moderation and see what occurs.

 

[pixel_fortune]

Ive decided to try this blend

I'd be keen to hear your experience!

 

[Diluculo_DelFuego]

It will be a few months off, but would be glad to get some and experience it/share the experience.
My task right now is to corral my dreams, for example yesterday had little recall, this past evening had several dreams I am aware of but little to no recall.