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Book Discussion Anyone read this book? JINN MAGICK: The Hidden Keys to Power, Wealth, and Desire with the Spirits of Fire and Shadow by Mosheh Ely

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@hussainsirat577 I bought the e-book for this and I am very split on it. At first, it seemed very promising, but then I did some research based on comments on reddit and also from advice that people gave me on some occult FB groups. I am starting to wonder myself if it is actually AI generated or not, but even so, I still believe that it can be AI generated as long as the content is genuine. AI can be used to speed things up when writing your material, but if the it is used to generate the ideas behind the content, then this is where a red flag is seen. Unfortunately, I cannot tell if it is the material is genuine or AI generated. But I can offer some thoughts.

Some of the issues I noticed while going through the pages:

1. A distinct lack of divine names and hierarchical structure - Based on genuine materials from authors like Nineveh Shadrach and Corwin Hargrove, I noticed that Arabic / Islamic based Jinn magick relies on the usage of divine names and high ranking Jinn names to make it work. The conjurations for Jinn (e.g. Berhatiah, Sebaseb) all contain references to divine names and calls to high ranking Jinn (e.g. Elders, Kings) to ensure that the Jinn come when called. In Mosheh's book, many of the conjurations are simple english calls with the name of the specific Jinn and maybe 1 sentence in Arabic. There are no divine names or hierarchical Jinn names being used, which I find a bit worrying. However, based on this author's previous works, it is likely he is an LHP / Demonolatry guy who probably doesn't believe in the use of divine names anyway. Still, even in demonolatry, there is a sense of hierarchy that is obeyed starting from Satan and working down the chain, so it is curious why the Jinn Elders are not used here since they form an important part of the Jinn based hierarchy. Honestly, there is not even a mention of them in the book from what I remember. They mention the 7 Jinn Kings, but there are no references to them being kings and the names differ in some parts from what you might see in Corwin Hargrove's book. There is nothing wrong with the differing names per se, since these names can differ even among legitimate manuscripts. Overall, the most worrying aspect here is the lack of references to hierarchy and the Jinn elders which are probably well established elements to Jinn magick from what little I have seen.

2. So called "historical sources" do not seem to exist - At the start of every chapter or sub-chapter, there is a quote relating to the chapter's material and the source of the quote is mentioned. The only problem with this is that the source seems largely to be BS as they are either "some old lost desert scroll" or some source that I could not find a single reference to online. In the former case, this is the biggest red flag because many authors try to use the "old lost ancient secret" trick to convince people to buy their books. Even legitimate authors from GoM or Nineveh use this gimmick, but at least in many cases, their sources can (mostly) be verified. For example, I am aware that Nineveh either buys his sources off of ebay or translates stuff from manuscripts that are available from academic sources such as university websites. In the case of Mosheh's book, he neglects to mention a large number of sources for these quotes and an "old lost scroll in the desert tomb" is not a sufficient source. As for his actual named sources that are not from the Quran or well known Islamic scriptures, I could not find any references online to the named sources. This is less of a red flag because there are many old manuscripts that do not have translated names online, and so I can accept this as being a possibly legitimate source.

3. Gimmicky themes in methodology - There is a running theme in this book that seems to use stereotypical naming based on some stereotypes. Things like "desert vision", circles of ash, and so on. Nothing wrong by itself, but to me personally, this sounds a bit too Hollywood to me. Not every Jinn magick source comes from the desert and not every Arabic magician was a guy in a cave fasting for 30 nights straight. It just feels like some of this stuff repeats a variation of the edge lord stuff to a certain extent, but without the BALG style shit you find in the usual LHP edge lord stuff you find online. Read through some of the more established guys out there, and you will see some mention of these themes, but not nearly as much as it comes out here. In my eyes, stuff like "desert" vision is just the usual clairvoyance / psychic senses that allow you to see spirits in general. You will have all the fundamental stuff being repackaged into some sort of Jinn specific theme, which is a bit of a red flag to me. But then again, I am not exactly an expert on this, so you can take what you want from it.

4. Potential AI generated sigils - The sigils for the 7 "Jinn of Power" and a couple of other sigils look a bit fake to me. They have characteristics in them that would not necessarily fit the limited number of sigils in the current amount of Jinn resources that are available. The sigils tend to have things like hearts or lightning bolts that are coincidentally attached to the specific Jinn who would have powers / attributes resembling that symbol (e.g. a heart for a Jinn of seduction). This could either be modern day channeling of the sigils or using AI to generate the sigils. I cannot tell you what it is, but this is a risk for the book that you need to be careful. Of the sigils that I know for actual Jinn magick, the shapes that you would see most often are not these shapes. Things like the star of david (hexagram), pentagrams, Arabic letters, and magical square setups are far more common in the genuine Jinn literature. Most of the time, it seems like a specific Jinn won't even have a sigil and that it is quite common to call them by name alone. So make of this what you will, but the sigils are a clear red flag to me.


There are also some good sides to the book, however. I think its practices, its safety warnings / considerations, and a good chunk of its discussions are still based on solid magical principles. It sounds like it is written by someone who knows magical practice and is experienced in it, since it vibes quite well with writings I have read from other legitimate sources in the western mystery tradition. This can also be outright AI output, but you need more than one prompt to write a book and getting a certain level of consistency in concepts can be difficult if you are using AI to write it chapter by chapter. For me, the consistency is present, albeit borderline, so make of that what you will.

Some of the practices here are also quite interesting. There is specific initiatory ritual / process that is supposed to "introduce" you to the Jinn and make you appealing to work with. Everything in the book starts from that specific ritual (ie "The flame from below" or something like that) and continues from there. There are some practices that I find fascinating such as the "hidden Jinn", which seem to be quite powerful and can invoke a specific type of energy just from mere usage of its name. Again, I cannot tell you if these practices work, as I have not tried them, but I will be experimenting with bits and pieces of the system (e.g. the hidden jinn names) to see if they work. Ultimately, you will only be able to tell if this works for you based on personal practice. In my case, if the hidden jinn names do work when used in a more traditional conjuration (e.g. the Berhitiah), then I would call it legitimate.

In the end, the one thing you should note is the red flags I laid out. Even in the good sides of the book, there are some caveats I noticed and this is not a great sign. I personally will only be experimenting with bits and pieces of the book once I have my own knowledge of Jinn magick more fleshed out, especially on the protective side. If you do intend on getting it, only get the ebook and not the physical book. This way you only risk a limited amount of money buying it. I hope this helps you!
 
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