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Beings in lucid dreams

Allofyoush

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I've encountered a variety of beings and creatures in my dreams, both lucid and non lucid. How do you refer to these beings? So far the humanlike beings that I can erase or destroy in lucid dreams are just "dream people" (these are generic people who start to attack when they know I'm lucid), while the more focused and purposeful humanlike beings who have more unique personalities and whom I cannot destroy with dream powers I call "administrators". What other types of beings are there and how do you refer to them? I'm a beginner lucid dreamer/astralite so I undoubtedly have not encountered much.
 

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Speaking as someone familiar with both the lucid dreaming community and the history of dream exploration, I'd start with an important distinction: there is no universally accepted taxonomy of dream beings. The names people use—"dream people," "administrators," "guides," "entities," "astral beings," "thoughtforms," and so on—are interpretations, not objective categories.

What you've already noticed is actually one of the oldest observations in lucid dreaming: not all dream characters behave the same way.

The easiest category is what you call "dream people." Many lucid dreamers call them NPCs, background characters, extras, or generic dream figures. They often seem to exist only to fill the environment. They may have little memory, little autonomy, and can often be altered, erased, frozen, or transformed through dream control. They tend to react mechanically when questioned.

The second category resembles what many experienced lucid dreamers call autonomous dream characters. These are not necessarily "administrators," but they feel different. They have stable personalities, surprising responses, emotional depth, and sometimes seem aware of the dreamer's intentions before the dreamer speaks. They often resist manipulation. Some lucid dreamers report that attempts to erase them fail, produce unexpected consequences, or simply don't work. Your term "administrator" is actually quite close to what many people independently invent. Various dream communities have called these figures "controllers", "overseers", "gatekeepers", etc..
 

Allofyoush

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Speaking as someone familiar with both the lucid dreaming community and the history of dream exploration, I'd start with an important distinction: there is no universally accepted taxonomy of dream beings. The names people use—"dream people," "administrators," "guides," "entities," "astral beings," "thoughtforms," and so on—are interpretations, not objective categories.

What you've already noticed is actually one of the oldest observations in lucid dreaming: not all dream characters behave the same way.

The easiest category is what you call "dream people." Many lucid dreamers call them NPCs, background characters, extras, or generic dream figures. They often seem to exist only to fill the environment. They may have little memory, little autonomy, and can often be altered, erased, frozen, or transformed through dream control. They tend to react mechanically when questioned.

The second category resembles what many experienced lucid dreamers call autonomous dream characters. These are not necessarily "administrators," but they feel different. They have stable personalities, surprising responses, emotional depth, and sometimes seem aware of the dreamer's intentions before the dreamer speaks. They often resist manipulation. Some lucid dreamers report that attempts to erase them fail, produce unexpected consequences, or simply don't work. Your term "administrator" is actually quite close to what many people independently invent. Various dream communities have called these figures "controllers", "overseers", "gatekeepers", etc..
That's actually really cool! It's neat to get confirmation of my experiences. I've been trying to lucid dream since my last encounters but have not yet had success. Each time I have though, I've felt that there is a level or two above the administrators/controllers. When I requested an ambassador to Lord Morpheus, these guys showed up. It felt as if they were there to protect the dream from manipulation and to put me back to sleep. But it also made me feel that if I do it the right way, I could get past them to encounter beings with true autonomy, such as ancestors or deities with real personalities. Am I correct in this assumption or am I barking up the wrong dreamtree?
 

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Am I correct in this assumption or am I barking up the wrong dreamtree?

Yes, dreams have different ranks. Many people experience dream figures as background characters, but those all belong to subconscious dreams. Meaning they are all different expressions of your own subconscious.

Once you move beyond those ranks, you will encounter fully autonomous figures. And you can even summon them when you wake up too.
 

Allofyoush

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Yes, dreams have different ranks. Many people experience dream figures as background characters, but those all belong to subconscious dreams. Meaning they are all different expressions of your own subconscious.

Once you move beyond those ranks, you will encounter fully autonomous figures. And you can even summon them when you wake up too.
Some of the first things I would like to do is contact ancestors and find my spirit guide/familiars/animals. Any advice on how to do this or what steps I should focus on before going this route?
 
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