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TLDR: has there been a person that did right and Left side with no problems?
Is there a restriction to one side only?
Is there a restriction to one side only?
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[Help] Can you do both Right and Left side magic?
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Humans like to create classifications for things. It's one of the ways we try to understand the world around us.
Some classification systems are based on very simplistic two options. The "left hand" and "right hand" classification is one example of this. And like any limited classification system it might look nice and tidy but breaks down when you try to impose it on real life which is rarely ever so nice and tidy.
And what do we mean by "right hand" and "left hand" anyways? Do we mean "right hand" equals "good", "helpful", and "left hand" equals "bad", "harmful"?
Take a healing for example. For the patient that is suffering, being healed would definitely be considered "good". But look at it from the point of view of the microorganisms (bacteria, virus, whatever) that is causing the illness -- to them having the patient healed usually means killing the microorganisms. So to the microorganisms the healing would definitely be "bad".
Or look at a specific tool such as a knife. The knife could be used to cut food, to carve a piece of wood into a useful item. That's "good", right? But that same knife could be used to injure a living being, perhaps even to kill them. That's "bad", right? So is the knife "good" or "bad"? (Can a knife be "good" or "bad"?)
Magic is a tool, just like a knife. You can use magic for "good", and you can use magic for "bad". Specific spells can also be used for both "good" and "bad" -- it all depends on your perspective, and what your goals are.
It's no different when you use the labels "right hand" and "left hand" for a practice, a spirituality, or for spells and magic.
Some classification systems are based on very simplistic two options. The "left hand" and "right hand" classification is one example of this. And like any limited classification system it might look nice and tidy but breaks down when you try to impose it on real life which is rarely ever so nice and tidy.
And what do we mean by "right hand" and "left hand" anyways? Do we mean "right hand" equals "good", "helpful", and "left hand" equals "bad", "harmful"?
Take a healing for example. For the patient that is suffering, being healed would definitely be considered "good". But look at it from the point of view of the microorganisms (bacteria, virus, whatever) that is causing the illness -- to them having the patient healed usually means killing the microorganisms. So to the microorganisms the healing would definitely be "bad".
Or look at a specific tool such as a knife. The knife could be used to cut food, to carve a piece of wood into a useful item. That's "good", right? But that same knife could be used to injure a living being, perhaps even to kill them. That's "bad", right? So is the knife "good" or "bad"? (Can a knife be "good" or "bad"?)
Magic is a tool, just like a knife. You can use magic for "good", and you can use magic for "bad". Specific spells can also be used for both "good" and "bad" -- it all depends on your perspective, and what your goals are.
It's no different when you use the labels "right hand" and "left hand" for a practice, a spirituality, or for spells and magic.
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Well I use both LHP and RHP techniques for my consciousness. So why couldn't it be done? For example assume a God-form is very LHPish. And deification of the ego is also again very LHPish. There are lots of techniques for both. Besides I'm a christian Satanist who doesn't worship anything but the reflection of God.
I would suggest that to intend such a thing is to establish the Foundation of The Great Work itself.
As for doing it with "no problems"....only if one were to read that question as "No" Problems, per Thelemic understanding of the word No.
As for doing it with "no problems"....only if one were to read that question as "No" Problems, per Thelemic understanding of the word No.
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You’ll find many opinions out there. I’m going to be straightforward with you, and I won’t tell you what you want to hear: the answer is no.
Why not? Because the Left-Hand Path (LHP) is based on claiming your own power and achieving self-deification. The magic of the LHP arises from within you.
In contrast, on the Right-Hand Path (RHP) you subordinate yourself to the power of others — you ask them, you beg them, you implore them to help you. It is the complete antithesis.
You cannot walk one path as a self-sufficient being and the other as a subordinate to an external God.
Why not? Because the Left-Hand Path (LHP) is based on claiming your own power and achieving self-deification. The magic of the LHP arises from within you.
In contrast, on the Right-Hand Path (RHP) you subordinate yourself to the power of others — you ask them, you beg them, you implore them to help you. It is the complete antithesis.
You cannot walk one path as a self-sufficient being and the other as a subordinate to an external God.