Christian shamanism

[Johny111]

We can read the New Testament in a completely different context than the official, church one. Their understanding is exoteric and profane. Likewise, the New Testament can be read quite esoterically and cabalistically, and we can draw some very different conclusions about that. The essence of Jesus' "Luciferianism" is his anti-nominalistic behavior and attitude. He showed that a man can be a god. All of this has nothing to do with the way his followers ruined his idea.

 

[Konsciencia]

It was called the Process Church of the Final Judgment. Or just the Process Church. They were around in the 70s. They taught that Lucifer and Jesus were the same God.

Do you think they are the same God? I know the answer, but I want you to tell me.

 

[Missterry]

Do you think they are the same God? I know the answer, but I want you to tell me.

Unfortunately my friend, I was born and raised a Buddhist. Which means that I am non-theistic. Which basically means that the concept of a God or gods is/are not relevant to my paradigm and world-model. Whether or not Lucifer and Jesus were the same god or different gods or ever existed is a question for the Westerner born and bred inside of a Judeo-Christian culture and society. Therefore: I have no opinions or beliefs regarding your question.

But, I can tell you a few interesting things about Lucifer and Jesus.

1. Luciferi was originally the ancient Latin word for the planet Venus.
2. Every 40 years, in the earth's sky, Venus/Luciferi traces a pentagram.
3. Venus is the brightest star in our sky.
4. Venus is called the Morning Star as well as the Evening Star.
5. Jesus, in Revelation 22.6 says, "I am the root and the descendant of David, the bright morning star.”
6. Jesus calling himself the morning star is not original. Since the ancient pharaohs of Egypt also had the title of "Morning Star," as did the ancient Kings of Sumer.
7. In that light, when Christ called himself the descendant of King David, and the Morning Star, he was affirming his divine Kingship, just as David was a divine king, made such by Yahweh Elohim, just as the ancient Pharaohs and Kings of Sumer were God-Kings or divine kings.

 

[Johny111]

If we are to stick to what is written, Jesus is actually the Son of God, and not the son of some Joseph the carpenter, who, by the way, is a fallen descendant of the royal line. In this sense, since his father is actually God himself, Jesus is essentially a bastard, but a divine bastard. More precisely, he is a holy child conceived in the holy orgies of an antinominalistic and apostate Gnostic Jewish sect. This paints his appearance even more in the light of a Luciferian nature.

 

[Konsciencia]

Unfortunately my friend, I was born and raised a Buddhist. Which means that I am non-theistic. Which basically means that the concept of a God or gods is/are not relevant to my paradigm and world-model. Whether or not Lucifer and Jesus were the same god or different gods or ever existed is a question for the Westerner born and bred inside of a Judeo-Christian culture and society. Therefore: I have no opinions or beliefs regarding your question.

But, I can tell you a few interesting things about Lucifer and Jesus.

1. Luciferi was originally the ancient Latin word for the planet Venus.
2. Every 40 years, in the earth's sky, Venus/Luciferi traces a pentagram.
3. Venus is the brightest star in our sky.
4. Venus is called the Morning Star as well as the Evening Star.
5. Jesus, in Revelation 22.6 says, "I am the root and the descendant of David, the bright morning star.”
6. Jesus calling himself the morning star is not original. Since the ancient pharaohs of Egypt also had the title of "Morning Star," as did the ancient Kings of Sumer.
7. In that light, when Christ called himself the descendant of King David, and the Morning Star, he was affirming his divine Kingship, just as David was a divine king, made such by Yahweh Elohim, just as the ancient Pharaohs and Kings of Sumer were God-Kings or divine kings.

Thanks for your clarifications. Awesome analogy!

 

[Missterry]

If we are to stick to what is written, Jesus is actually the Son of God, and not the son of some Joseph the carpenter, who, by the way, is a fallen descendant of the royal line. In this sense, since his father is actually God himself, Jesus is essentially a bastard, but a divine bastard. More precisely, he is a holy child conceived in the holy orgies of an antinominalistic and apostate Gnostic Jewish sect. This paints his appearance even more in the light of a Luciferian nature.

You are correct. The book of Matthew traces Jesus' ancestry back to King David via Joseph's line. Jesus was not the biological son of Joseph.

But the book of Luke traces Jesus' ancestry back to King David via Mary's line. Joseph and Mary were second cousins.