Commanding a spirit with no experience

[TOUIBI]

Can someone help me to command a spirit.
Actually i know the name of the spirit, that's all.
In some sigil books, they talk about creating a sigil of the spirit and then bound it in a personnel ring.
I am trying to follow the instructions in these books but i want to know if this is sufficient.

Thanks

 

[Firetree]

No, I would say not .
IMO it takes a lot more than knowing a name and making a sigil and binding it in a ring ... unless that sort of thing has happened 'naturally ' to you previously .

To me the sigil and ring would come much later and be seen more as a 'mala' a way to maintain a contact already established .

I mean , of course, you can do whatever .. and people do nowadays , stuff like learning off dodgy YouTubes BUT say you want to learn how to fix your house wiring and electricity ... are you going to jump in with live wires and nut it out as you go along ... or are you going to get some safer experience and learning first .

One thing I recommend everyone consider .... are you mentally set up for this approach ? Israel Regardie , in his later practice , recommended people get a psychiatric assessment first .... not being rude , just cautionary - I seen a LOT ... both in magick and working in a psyche ward !

 

[TOUIBI]

Dear Firetree

Thanks for your kind reply.

I can understand that doing it is critical and may lead to some unexpected results.
Actually, it is a long story that i can't write it here but the things i got ( name ,religion ) of this spirit and the reason he is present in my family house, all these came after making a rokya to my sister.
Honestly, all my family is in a big trouble because of this. another thing, the spirit told me that he is a guardian of a tresor , and nothing else.
I tried to let him give me more details, but i was not able.
this happened since August 2013, and up to day, i am facing a big trouble in my daily life. Also i am not able to get a new work.....
Really, i need help and i don't know how to proceed.

Thanks

 

[kusuri]

Dear Firetree

Thanks for your kind reply.

I can understand that doing it is critical and may lead to some unexpected results.
Actually, it is a long story that i can't write it here but the things i got ( name ,religion ) of this spirit and the reason he is present in my family house, all these came after making a rokya to my sister.
Honestly, all my family is in a big trouble because of this. another thing, the spirit told me that he is a guardian of a tresor , and nothing else.
I tried to let him give me more details, but i was not able.
this happened since August 2013, and up to day, i am facing a big trouble in my daily life. Also i am not able to get a new work.....
Really, i need help and i don't know how to proceed.

Thanks

As I tell most people. Do a skrying session to meet and speak with it. Ask it what it wants. Dont do any binding or being a dick etc...

There is usually a lot more meta data to the experience if one takes the time to look at it.

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I should emphasize that your not being a dick.. but the whole binding thing could be unnecessary is what I meant. Question it and if it really necessary one could use the Solomonic protocols. But usually it could be anything from an upset ancestor to really anything.

Always try to gain the higher ground. Even in Taoist magic one tries to negotiate before extreme measures.

 

[TOUIBI]

Dear kusuri,​

Thanks for your reply and advise.
Unfortunately i have no experience with the skrying and i am worrying that trying it can hurt me.
do you think that i can make it by my self ? is it dangerous?

Thanks

 

[BMicic]

First, maybe it would be better to gain some experience before thinking about commanding spirits?

 

[Lord Talve]

Maybe meditation is the best result to prepare the mind then you can summon the spirit but success is not instant

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Also This is my opinion beginner like me
Good luck of your success

 

[Tehuti]

Can someone help me to command a spirit.
Actually i know the name of the spirit, that's all.
In some sigil books, they talk about creating a sigil of the spirit and then bound it in a personnel ring.
I am trying to follow the instructions in these books but i want to know if this

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The same way you will feel disrespected when you are commanded to go against your will.that the same the spirit will feel , Try finding way to communicate and negotiate with it. Respect all being, love and light

 

[JJB5]

Maybe meditation is the best result to prepare the mind then you can summon the spirit but success is not instant

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Also This is my opinion beginner like me
Good luck of your success

First, maybe it would be better to gain some experience before thinking about commanding spirits?

Yes, learn to walk before you try to run

 

[dzb10035]

If you only know the name of the spirit, you have no way of understanding if what you call is something that could be dangerous or not. Calling the spirit and trying to command it without ANYTHING aside from the name is the first way to invite unknown and potentially dangerous influences into your life. I am not saying that you will lose your soul or anything extreme, but you could be inviting misfortune and negative forces into your life if you go in as-is. For most beginners, you don't start by commanding spirits because "commanding" a spirit requires either knowledge of the spirit's nature, a strong will backed by divine influence, or at the very least magical technology that is used for spirit conjuration. Without any of these, you won't command anything in the spirit world as a complete beginner.

And even with magical systems / technologies, you still need to understand how to protect yourself. The spirit might be "commanded" in the moment, but if you piss it off by being disrespectful or if you make mistakes during the conjuration process, you will still run the risk of being subject to its influences outside of the ritual if it decides to stick around. I'm surprised very little is recommended you learn how to do protective magick for yourself. This is an essential prerequisite for any type of spirit work. Stuff like banishing rituals, wards, purification practices and more should be part of your vocabulary. At the very minimum, you should know an actual banishing ritual such as the sword banishing or even the Lesser Banishing Ritual of the Pentagram in order to clear a spiritual influence away from your space and life.

Finally, there is a lot of problems with the approach you are advocating here of commanding it. Many spirits will not appreciate the first contact as being one of coercion and command. In many circles of magick, this type of attitude would be considered disrespectful in the best case scenario and even dangerous in the worst case. Binding the spirit to a ring, or using coercive threats against it will probably not achieve much in any case. You have no guarantee of knowing if you actually even binded the spirit to a ring / object successfully. If you decide to approach a spirit at first, it should be done with an attitude of respectful caution, as if you are approaching a stranger. You don't know who they are, you maintain a careful attitude, but you don't assume the worst in them until they give you a real reason to be careful. The same is done with a spirit, using a good ritual or conjuration protocol.

So if you want to do this, do the following things in order:

1. Learn some protection spells, such as a banishing ritual or at least some cleansing spells.

2. Buy a book of spiritual protection spells, such as "Magicakal Protection" by Damon Brand or "Reversal Magick" by Stephen Miller. These books will give you more advanced methods to protect yourself in case of more complex issues.

3. Learn a spirit conjuration system. As someone said earlier, the Solomonic system (i.e. with the triangle, ring, lamen, circle) is a good example of system. A proper system will contain additional safe guards to protect yourself during the ritual.

4. Learn whatever you can about the spirit, especially the type of the spirit. The spirit might be connected to your family background, which might give you some information on what it is. If your family comes from an Arabic background, the spirit could be a jinn for instance. You would do well to adapt your protective measures to the tradition of the spirit.

5. When you call the spirit, do so with the intention of getting to know it respectfully first. Use a system of divination, such as a pendulum or tarot cards, in order to communicate with it. DO NOT demand anything from it or attempt to command it by threatening it.

6. After several sessions with the spirit, if you have learned more about it, you may consider working with it. Only do this if nothing negative has happened so far as a baseline minimum.

If you do these steps in this order, you should be able to safely contact the spirit. I would not recommend leaving out the protective steps (i.e. 1-3). I hope this helps you.

 

[Keldan]

You can evoke or summon spirits even if you don’t have a name. So if you do have a name, that’s already more than enough to evoke a spirit. And with enough experience, a practitioner can evoke or summon without the spirit harming them.

I have spirits evoked that I’d never met before and didn’t even know the names of, especially because the spirits aren’t from any book. But that takes a lot of magick and a lot of experience. You have to be able to recognize what type of spirit they are and know who you’re interacting with.

If you’re worried that scrying will hurt you, then you have no business trying to command spirits.

 

[ViraLodge]

I would neither. For spirit work, I tend to take more of an approach I'd take with any human being. If you walk up to a stranger in the streets, yell at them and threaten them, it is rather unlikely that he'd feel intimidated and even less likely that your desire was fulfilled

 

[Pxan02]

Have you read Consorting with Spirits by Jason Miller? That might be exactly what you are looking for.

 

[Hakon]

Can someone help me to command a spirit.
Actually i know the name of the spirit, that's all.
In some sigil books, they talk about creating a sigil of the spirit and then bound it in a personnel ring.
I am trying to follow the instructions in these books but i want to know if this is sufficient.

Thanks

Knowing only the name of a spirit is usually not sufficient.

In most traditional systems, the name is only one part of the work. Before trying to command, bind, or place a spirit in a ring, you would normally need to know much more: its nature, hierarchy, planetary or elemental correspondence, seal or sigil, office, temperament, proper authority under which it is approached, and the method of dismissal or license to depart.

A sigil or ring by itself does not automatically give control over a spirit. The ring is usually a ritual vessel or point of contact, and it only has meaning inside a complete magical framework. Without the proper consecration, protection, authority, and clear relationship to the spirit, it may simply be symbolic, ineffective, or spiritually unsafe.

I would also be careful with the word “command.” In ceremonial traditions, spirits are not usually approached through personal ego alone. The magician acts under divine authority, within a consecrated space, with clear limits, prayers, names of power, and a specific purpose. Trying to “bind” a spirit only because you know its name can be reckless.

My advice would be:

Study the tradition your book belongs to first.
Identify the spirit properly.
Confirm whether the sigil is traditional or personally constructed.
Learn the full ritual structure, including protection and dismissal.
Do not attempt binding until you understand what the ring is meant to do.
Approach with respect, discipline, and clear spiritual authority.

So, no, I would not consider the name plus a handmade sigil to be enough. It may be a starting point for research, but it should not be treated as a complete method of command or binding.