Connecting with Lucifer easily

[DiLoco_DelEted]

Mike. Let me explain something you most likely will dismiss anyway.
I don't have an easy time.
Think of an angry mob living among you.
Now think of others causing unnecessary problems magickally.
What exactly is your point?
How is it then that the Golden Dawn works for others?
I am a neophyte if that explains anything for you.

 

[DiLoco_DelEted]

I'm aware Lucifer exists. Who Lucifer 8s is my dilemma. Right? Logically speaking, Should I rush right into anything?

 

[DiLoco_DelEted]

Now ... Taking the view that they are brain compartmentalized neuroses that must be dealt with. I can be onboard with that idea. There still is a song about fools rushing in though.

 

[DiLoco_DelEted]

However, the method kicks serious butt in theory ... And apparently practice as well.

 

[Roma]

According to a friend running an occult bookshop, the energy went out of the GD in the mid 1990s. My observation is that the energy also went out of various spiritual, ritual and religious organizations.

The cosmic tide is changing in the new cycle. New human practices, beliefs and organizations may be expected

 

[DiLoco_DelEted]

According to a friend running an occult bookshop, the energy went out of the GD in the mid 1990s. My observation is that the energy also went out of various spiritual, ritual and religious organizations.

The cosmic tide is changing in the new cycle. New human practices, beliefs and organizations may be expected

Well, aside from the Golden Dawn, Thelema exists, as does Quareia. Beyond these two I would then consider Luciferianism via Ford's writings. Minus the blasphemy. I consider it tactless and tasteless to day the least. Not very loving.

 

[DiLoco_DelEted]

There is also the route of Order of the Dragon Rouge, Ordo Ascensum Aeturnialis ( i think that's the name of Koettings OAA).
Then there is Celtic and Druidic magic. Wicca.

 

[gypsyknock]

Lucifer stands for spell craft Magick demons spirits connection to death excersisims karma poltergeist and even suicide sacrifice while satanism is about brutal power threw force being your own rules or God and you are taught to treasure abuse and carnage because it leads to favortiable situation for the future. Think of a fight between two people who are on the same side of the fight only to wish it leads to a mutual situation they both agree on in the distant future

 

[DiLoco_DelEted]

Mike. Let me explain something you most likely will dismiss anyway.
I don't have an easy time.
Think of an angry mob living among you.
Now think of others causing unnecessary problems magickally.
What exactly is your point?
How is it then that the Golden Dawn works for others?
I am a neophyte if that explains anything for you.

Since Vandheer finds me so comical, I wanted to also say this, that I'm sure your method works, as of your reported success and willingness to help others through this method. I wish you all great success.

 

[Sitrah_Ahra_Gloria]

Mike. Let me explain something you most likely will dismiss anyway.
I don't have an easy time.
Think of an angry mob living among you.
Now think of others causing unnecessary problems magickally.
What exactly is your point?
How is it then that the Golden Dawn works for others?
I am a neophyte if that explains anything for you.

Fuego I don't even know what the hell you're on about. If you don't feel like working with Lucifer don't! I'm not making you do anything. I provided a method that works. Unlike alot of shit heads around here that just criticize others or spread bullshit around. If you want to use the method I provided great if you don't that's fine too. Remembered I told you Fuego I can lead you to water but I can't make you drink it bro

 

[DiLoco_DelEted]

Fuego I don't even know what the hell you're on about. If you don't feel like working with Lucifer don't! I'm not making you do anything. I provided a method that works. Unlike alot of shit heads around here that just criticize others or spread bullshit around. If you want to use the method I provided great if you don't that's fine too. Remembered I told you Fuego I can lead you to water but I can't make you drink it bro

Appreciated and understood.
Question ... Have you tried with other entities by using that or redesigning it to fit another entity?

 

[DiLoco_DelEted]

First I test the spirit for:

• plane of operation
• quality of intent
• light-dark balance
• kingdom

If it passes those I will usually test for origin: stars, planets, sponsors

If its origin/sponsorship is clean, I will enter into conversation

The method of testing is usually pairwise comparison - matching/connecting the entity to known energies/intelligences

Subsidiary tests include smell, color, sound, feel

Mostly spirits approach me when I am out and about.

If I want to connect with some of the higher spirits it is necessary to access an appropriate plane. Otherwise fakes will turn up

This is an ingenious way to test them.
I've gotten a sense that already having clairvoyance and clairaudience would be helpful in order to test a perceived spirit?

 

[Sitrah_Ahra_Gloria]

Appreciated and understood.
Question ... Have you tried with other entities by using that or redesigning it to fit another entity?

No I haven't

 

[DiLoco_DelEted]

Just wondering if it is unique. Or a similar gateway, with a name or word of power in center and the desired contact sigil in the four areas.

Nonetheless, it's cool as hell. I think of Lucifer often, not in a judgemental or bad way btw.

 

[Öwnchef]

If you don't feel like working with Lucifer don't!

What is needed for people to work with Lucifer is a freshness and openness of mind.

 

[LostYeoman]

There’s an esoteric sigil of his that features a triangle and what looks like two cogs. If you use that one you avoid the possibility of egregores, which makes him easier to presence.

 

[Öwnchef]

The Chalice kind of sigil?

 

[8Lou1]

as far as im aware lucifer is a trilogy thing, before that they were more into lightning and thunder gods. in arabic id use nour-e-din aka the light of god as one of the 99 names. i know it is not the same , as lucifer is supposed to be an angel, but i tend to prefer to work top down. it also makes the way lucifer is more understandable as you have first learned to understand what the tru meaning is behind the total concept of what it is to carry the name lucifer.

 

[LostYeoman]

The Chalice kind of sigil?

No, a different one. It’s an inverted triangle with a cog in the middle and two on either side.

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[Öwnchef]

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