[DDG] Dream Discussion General

[Morell]

That is very good question, I label it as a dream because it happens when I am sleeping, but much of the experiences in the dreams are not so different of the astral travels. I think it could be a very good topic on its own. I have to think about it for a while, would be nice if others join that conversation.

Well, for my two cents...

So far nothing disproved this theory for me. I will speak of layers, as that works for me. Physical layer is where we work and are when awake. When we get out of body for astral travel, that is astral layer. Between the two there is mental layer. (some people replace the names of the two, which can cause confusion) When we fall asleep, we go to the mental layer, the closes to the physical body. Mental travelling would be traveling almost physical world, also mental layer can be reached when awake with imagination, like daydreaming or even when communicating with some spirits that can get into mental layer, can even go so far as being physically visible.

When we fell asleep, we go to mental layer and start forming our thoughts around us, forming a dream. I assume that a dream is like a mirror chamber where we reflect onto ourselves what is within us by experiencing it as being in dreamed environment.

 

[Ohana]

I dreamed something recently that I thought I should share. I was going around and then realized that dish washer soap pods were going to be hard to get in the future because they had silver? I don't think they have silver but that was dream logic.

So I had to go to a grocery store and start hoarding important resources not just the dish washer soap. So I went to the store but then I misplaced the dishwasher soap.

Then the characters in my dream moved onto to new scene within the dream. They characters in my dream gave me a house and family like relationships. As well as basically the equalivant of a Dave'N Busters but in a house.

My dreams always involve some sort of American Ninja esque background or Amusment parks or fairs.

But this time I wasn't having it. I went back to the grocery store even when it was a new scene in the dream and tried to the silver/dishwasher soap pods. But the store started to go on a tilt. It was like the store itself was keeping me from find the dishwasher soap/silver thing?

The store was like a maze. Confounding, confusing, ever shifting and never staying consistent. I really wanted to find my dishwasher soap/silver but then the characters in the dream I think found me and told me to just quit finding it.

I asked the characters in my dream about where to find the dishwasher soap/silver but they kept ignoring me. Anyway I eventually woke up and I still feel like I lost something important. Its a weird feeling. Its like the pacing around when you lost your keys but that feeling last for a day. Its really weird.

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I dreamed something recently that I thought I should share. I was going around and then realized that dish washer soap pods were going to be hard to get in the future because they had silver? I don't think they have silver but that was dream logic.

So I had to go to a grocery store and start hoarding important resources not just the dish washer soap. So I went to the store but then I misplaced the dishwasher soap.

Then the characters in my dream moved onto to new scene within the dream. They characters in my dream gave me a house and family like relationships. As well as basically the equalivant of a Dave'N Busters but in a house.

My dreams always involve some sort of American Ninja esque background or Amusment parks or fairs.

But this time I wasn't having it. I went back to the grocery store even when it was a new scene in the dream and tried to the silver/dishwasher soap pods. But the store started to go on a tilt. It was like the store itself was keeping me from find the dishwasher soap/silver thing?

The store was like a maze. Confounding, confusing, ever shifting and never staying consistent. I really wanted to find my dishwasher soap/silver but then the characters in the dream I think found me and told me to just quit finding it.

I asked the characters in my dream about where to find the dishwasher soap/silver but they kept ignoring me. Anyway I eventually woke up and I still feel like I lost something important. Its a weird feeling. Its like the pacing around when you lost your keys but that feeling last for a day. Its really weird.

Reason this was weird is usually in dreams I don't have this much willpower. But in this dream I stopped following the plot of it and focused on something that I needed instead.

The grocery store tilted I think it was a expierence to say the least.

 

[tetradicTendencies]

i'm amazed this thread has so many replies!
thanks! feels nice

 

[Alexander@]

Приветствую всех участников форума! Хочу начать с того, что я практикую астральную проекцию, осознанные сновидения и связанные с ними техники уже три года. За это время я накопил немало знаний и небольшой запас информации. И именно на эту тему я хотел бы с вами пообщаться — или, скорее, поделиться своим опытом. Поэтому не стесняйтесь задавать любые вопросы, и я постараюсь ответить на них и поделиться чем-то новым для вас.

 

[HoldAll]

Приветствую всех участников форума! Хочу начать с того, что я практикую астральную проекцию, осознанные сновидения и связанные с ними техники уже три года. За это время я накопил немало знаний и небольшой запас информации. И именно на эту тему я хотел бы с вами пообщаться — или, скорее, поделиться своим опытом. Поэтому не стесняйтесь задавать любые вопросы, и я постараюсь ответить на них и поделиться чем-то новым для вас.

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[Alexander@]

Я практикую осознанные сновидения около трех лет. За это время я пришел к следующим выводам и наблюдениям.
Из собственного опыта я заметил, что человек способен радикально изменить свою жизнь, работая с внутренними негативными программами, которые формируются под влиянием окружающей среды, прошлого опыта и социального воспитания. Эти программы могут проявляться в виде страхов, ограничений или автоматических реакций.
Погружение в осознанный сновидение или легкое медитативное состояние позволяет увидеть источник такой программы. Осознание ее происхождения дает возможность ослабить или даже полностью устранить ее влияние.
Например, если у кого-то есть боязнь воды — глубокой воды, озер, погружения под воду или утопления — можно установить намерение перед сном:
«Покажите мне причину моего страха перед водой».
В осознанном сновидении или медитации может появиться образ или сцена — например, ребенок, который тонет или уже утонул. В этом случае страх воспринимается не как абстрактное чувство, а как конкретный образ или повествование.
Цель на этом этапе — осознать, что этот страх не является частью текущей личности, а скорее усвоенной или принятой программой, закрепившейся в результате сильного эмоционального переживания. Благодаря осознанию и полному переживанию этого момента влияние программы ослабевает, и страх теряет свою силу.

 

[Morell]

Я практикую осознанные сновидения около трех лет. За это время я пришел к следующим выводам и наблюдениям.
Из собственного опыта я заметил, что человек способен радикально изменить свою жизнь, работая с внутренними негативными программами, которые формируются под влиянием окружающей среды, прошлого опыта и социального воспитания. Эти программы могут проявляться в виде страхов, ограничений или автоматических реакций.
Погружение в осознанный сновидение или легкое медитативное состояние позволяет увидеть источник такой программы. Осознание ее происхождения дает возможность ослабить или даже полностью устранить ее влияние.
Например, если у кого-то есть боязнь воды — глубокой воды, озер, погружения под воду или утопления — можно установить намерение перед сном:
«Покажите мне причину моего страха перед водой».
В осознанном сновидении или медитации может появиться образ или сцена — например, ребенок, который тонет или уже утонул. В этом случае страх воспринимается не как абстрактное чувство, а как конкретный образ или повествование.
Цель на этом этапе — осознать, что этот страх не является частью текущей личности, а скорее усвоенной или принятой программой, закрепившейся в результате сильного эмоционального переживания. Благодаря осознанию и полному переживанию этого момента влияние программы ослабевает, и страх теряет свою силу.

Hello there! You must speak english here. You already god first warning, so get it together, read the rules and use english. And read it too. You are welcome, but rules are the rules.
Translated:
Привет! Здесь необходимо говорить по-английски. Вы уже получили первое предупреждение, так что соберитесь, прочтите правила и используйте английский язык. И прочтите их тоже. Добро пожаловать, но правила есть правила.

 

[Alexander@]

I’ve been practicing lucid dreaming for about three years. During this time, I’ve arrived at the following conclusions and insights.
From my own experience, I’ve observed that a person is capable of radically transforming their life by working with internal negative programs, which are formed under the influence of the environment, past experiences, and social conditioning. These programs can manifest as fears, limitations, or automatic reactions.
Through immersion in a lucid dream or a light meditative state, it becomes possible to perceive the source of such a program. Becoming aware of its origin allows one to weaken or even completely eliminate its influence.
For example, if someone has a fear of water—such as deep water, lakes, the act of submerging, or drowning—one can set the intention before sleep:
“Show me the cause of my fear of water.”
In a lucid dream or meditation, an image or scene may appear—such as a child who is drowning or has drowned. In this experience, the fear is perceived not as an abstract feeling but as a concrete image or narrative.
The goal in this state is to realize that this fear is not a part of the current personality, but rather a learned or adopted program, cemented through a strong emotional experience. Through awareness and fully experiencing this moment, the program’s influence weakens, and the fear loses its power.

 

[Durward]

I had a dream while living in Germany, where I realized that it took me two years of complete immersion in the language and culture before German reached my dream level awareness. Before that, everything was in English. I connected it to other things I was trying to do, and realized that certain practices could literally take years before they penetrate to the dream depth.

In that dream, I was out in front of the house, talking to a tree. I had to bend over because the communication was happening down at the base of the tree. The tree told me that it shares one mind with all of the trees of it's own kind. Destroying one tree by chopping it down doesn't bother the consciousness much. Another tree chimed in, saying that it is a spirit living there in the adjacent tree, and it would take offense, and that it is independent of the tree's consciousness. None of this surprised me, since I had already heard this from the local village tales about tree spirits.

All of this was in German, which was the first time I realized that I was no longer translating things into English in my mind, but actually thinking and dreaming in German without the need to translate.

It occurred to me that there is no language to thoughts and feelings, we learn a language, and apply that, but the thoughts and feelings are what they are without any language. It is again a filter we apply so that we can communicate easier and share our thoughts and feelings. But, language is not necessary for thoughts or feelings to happen.

We learn to apply this language skill, and then think the specific language in some specific spell has some power of it's own, without wondering how that works with other languages.

It obviously isn't the language portion or the words that are doing the heavy lifting...

So, this filter was still operating in my mind, in dreams, and simply switched over from one language to another, opening my eyes to a very basic truth about how things work below the surface.

We are full of symbols and meanings to the experiences, thoughts, feelings, etc. during dreams, and this is other parts of yourself talking, or other parts of yourself interacting, or fantasy, or working through things, and most of it without using any language, but using the colorful picture book settings you can experience.

 

[Sedim Haba]

I was given another dream, here it is...

She was a witch and seer, and with my crystal balls saw the future. (I'm crap with scrying, gave them to her)

She could see the future, not far but remote viewing newspapers in a news stand was possible. She caught

the attention of the Establishment, who decided that a frontal lobotomy would remove this threat.

A modern burning at the stake for the witch. Two men in full scrubs and an ambulance gurney, full of leather

straps, showed up where she lived, unlocked her door. Only, I was there to deal with them. Subdued them

(they were strangely silent throughout) and bound them with their own straps. We fled north, to Canada,

via country backroads. Picked up a hitchhiker, an old man. Took him to the next town, a port along the river.

This river blocked our way, but nevermind the truck suspension was already destroyed by the bad roads,

and we couldn't feed it's tank and ourselves too. We could only use untraceable cash, and barter.

The man hid us, and his daughter was planning on taking a passenger boat upriver, and we got her to buy

us two tickets, by giving her my largest ball, real crystal almost as large as a bowling ball, with a brass

base. Gave her dad the truck, worthless tho the frame was. (My actual farm truck, which I had to give away IRL)

There it ended. I've never had a dream with so many elements from real life before, what do you all think?

 

[Sedim Haba]

It occurred to me that there is no language to thoughts and feelings, we learn a language, and apply that, but the thoughts and feelings are what they are without any language. It is again a filter we apply so that we can communicate easier and share our thoughts and feelings. But, language is not necessary for thoughts or feelings to happen.

We learn to apply this language skill, and then think the specific language in some specific spell has some power of it's own, without wondering how that works with other languages.

It obviously isn't the language portion or the words that are doing the heavy lifting...

So, this filter was still operating in my mind, in dreams, and simply switched over from one language to another, opening my eyes to a very basic truth about how things work below the surface.

We are full of symbols and meanings to the experiences, thoughts, feelings, etc. during dreams, and this is other parts of yourself talking, or other parts of yourself interacting, or fantasy, or working through things, and most of it without using any language, but using the colorful picture book settings you can experience.

Interesting. I think it's the same way with the Entities. Not everything is in English, I find, tho my mind translates automatically the symbols

I receive into words which I then speak out loud, in English for confirmation. Words are just one type of symbol.

 

[Keldan]

I was given another dream, here it is...

She was a witch and seer, and with my crystal balls saw the future. (I'm crap with scrying, gave them to her)

She could see the future, not far but remote viewing newspapers in a news stand was possible. She caught

the attention of the Establishment, who decided that a frontal lobotomy would remove this threat.

A modern burning at the stake for the witch. Two men in full scrubs and an ambulance gurney, full of leather

straps, showed up where she lived, unlocked her door. Only, I was there to deal with them. Subdued them

(they were strangely silent throughout) and bound them with their own straps. We fled north, to Canada,

via country backroads. Picked up a hitchhiker, an old man. Took him to the next town, a port along the river.

This river blocked our way, but nevermind the truck suspension was already destroyed by the bad roads,

and we couldn't feed it's tank and ourselves too. We could only use untraceable cash, and barter.

The man hid us, and his daughter was planning on taking a passenger boat upriver, and we got her to buy

us two tickets, by giving her my largest ball, real crystal almost as large as a bowling ball, with a brass

base. Gave her dad the truck, worthless tho the frame was. (My actual farm truck, which I had to give away IRL)

There it ended. I've never had a dream with so many elements from real life before, what do you all think?

The river blocking your way is classic “you can’t cross the usual way” symbolism. So you can’t brute force the next stage because the truck literally won’t make it. You have to switch methods and go by boat, and you can’t do it alone either, you need help from the old man and his daughter. That fits a transition, a dropping of an old identity. Because the things you rely on and value most (the truck and the crystal ball) aren’t usable anymore, they have to be traded away. This means that you can’t carry everything into the next phase of this transition.

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Okay, good palce as any... Today was quite a crazy dream walk... ready, set, dream!

First I was in some clock tower, like inside the church or castle with another person who was holding a towel/flag on a stick, it was white and had white embroidered star on it, seven or nine points, unsure. It was time so I grabbed the flag and held it outside so it was hanging from the window to be visible from afar. Then I took it and we went down the stairs while I was commenting that the guy should get real flag, Egyptian, if he is serious with this stuff. I sad that there are many places where it can be purchased.

Downstairs was something like living room with a lot of people being there. Some evil person was coming in so I sat down keeping low profile as two knight-like dudes walked around and I tried to figure out who the evil guy is. He found me, but I wasn't afraid and he seemed confused that he can't control or mind-control me.

Next moment I'm in rainforest, I remember face of old shaman with that headset of feathers. Then I was lookin still in the rainforest at some nightmarish shamanic creature. It head headset too, it was small creep like an ape(black fur, long tail), with head as skull of a bird with long whitened bleak. I wanted to touch it, though I was warned that it is dangerous and I knew that it is also very poisonous, but I said that this is something I have to do and I have to do it myself. The creature suddenly moved, cuddled its head against my hand and then rested in my hands as I was petting it.

And next I was walking the street, with roses in my hand, I was walking towards meeting someone, my love I suppose, we were going somewhere by plane. I thought that I have some time left so I went to food store for something for the journey. I saw and wanted bars of chocolate with blueberries (I always go for chocolate in dreams) I also picked few bars that were on sale but seemed not expired yet and also considered sticks with cheese. Before I could get through the line to buy that stuff, I woke up.

The shaman figure in this dream is one of your guides. Bird beak imagery suggests knowledge that pecks at illusions, a sharp cutting kind of knowledge. So when you insisted that you had to do it yourself despite the warning that it was dangerous and poisonous, it points to you being ready to take responsibility for your knowledge.

 

[Sedim Haba]

Gratitude for the insight Keldan, would upvote if I could.