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Dealings with Beleth

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I was considering Beleth for guiding a personal business project to success, (physical products) since Beleth is said to aid in diverse arts and liberal sciences, as well as gaining general favor of people. I've also heard of a craftsman quality to him/her.

I'd like to ask what you've experienced from Beleth's presence if you've ever contacted him.
 

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I was considering Beleth for guiding a personal business project to success, (physical products) since Beleth is said to aid in diverse arts and liberal sciences, as well as gaining general favor of people. I've also heard of a craftsman quality to him/her.

I'd like to ask what you've experienced from Beleth's presence if you've ever contacted him.
I had a good relationship with Beleth. But I just used him/her/it whatever to get laid, so, no idea about your goals. I find it to be a pretty lustful spirit
 

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I had a good relationship with Beleth. But I just used him/her/it whatever to get laid, so, no idea about your goals. I find it to be a pretty lustful spirit
Thats the odd thing about it. People say Beleth is a lust spirit. He definitely can do that, but I noticed she generally made people more "endearing and sweet" towards me. It was more attentive, helpful, and playful around me. This fits more with the older description of causing "doting" love. (Def: endearingly fond and uncritical)

The Book of Oberon says he teaches Liberal sciences, the Solomon books say he taught Noah or Cham mathematics. Magicians have say on YouTube that he "refines" anything you want to improve about yourself or your life. So I guess he can do many things.
 

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I'd like to ask what you've experienced from Beleth's presence if you've ever contacted him.
Have you ever wondered why The Bible is called that? Someone a long time ago did, and the answer they found didn't sit well with them so they put the matter into the lore of demonology. They discovered that the word Bible comes from the name of one of the major cities of the ancient world and the deity worshiped there named Baalat. The exact identity of this deity remains obscure, but it was patron of Byblos (modern day Lebanon), a center of all arts and sciences. Most authors identify it as an Ishtar-Aphrodite type deity of womanhood, but it's more likely one of the mother figures of these deities as the cult stretches back into prehistory. All of that added up to something that was clearly one of the more powerful influences on ancient culture, hence a King in the Goetia.

I have two entirely different experiences of this spirit to share, you can take it or leave it.

This spirit is not really suited to romance of any sort, its power is ... fame. This is the spirit to call upon if you want to become famous. Everybody knows fame has a price, and that price is what this spirit will disclose. What must you do for recognition? It's different for everyone. Both of my experiences with this spirit involved performers attempting to hit the big time.

I really don't feel like describing either of these incidents, so the distillate tastes like this: You have to be some kind of fool to become famous in performing arts. If it's not working, it's probably not stupid enough. In one case, the person chose a more "regular" lifestyle than the one success demanded, and in the end concentrated exclusively on choir. I got a very entertaining tour of the world of performing arts. In the other case, the person ended up having major brain surgery and I suspect that the spirit facilitated his recovery. Both of these people did not achieve the massive global recognition they desired for one simple reason: they deliberately rejected it once it became clear what would be required of them.
 

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Have you ever wondered why The Bible is called that? Someone a long time ago did, and the answer they found didn't sit well with them so they put the matter into the lore of demonology. They discovered that the word Bible comes from the name of one of the major cities of the ancient world and the deity worshiped there named Baalat. The exact identity of this deity remains obscure, but it was patron of Byblos (modern day Lebanon), a center of all arts and sciences. Most authors identify it as an Ishtar-Aphrodite type deity of womanhood, but it's more likely one of the mother figures of these deities as the cult stretches back into prehistory. All of that added up to something that was clearly one of the more powerful influences on ancient culture, hence a King in the Goetia.

I have two entirely different experiences of this spirit to share, you can take it or leave it.

This spirit is not really suited to romance of any sort, its power is ... fame. This is the spirit to call upon if you want to become famous. Everybody knows fame has a price, and that price is what this spirit will disclose. What must you do for recognition? It's different for everyone. Both of my experiences with this spirit involved performers attempting to hit the big time.

I really don't feel like describing either of these incidents, so the distillate tastes like this: You have to be some kind of fool to become famous in performing arts. If it's not working, it's probably not stupid enough. In one case, the person chose a more "regular" lifestyle than the one success demanded, and in the end concentrated exclusively on choir. I got a very entertaining tour of the world of performing arts. In the other case, the person ended up having major brain surgery and I suspect that the spirit facilitated his recovery. Both of these people did not achieve the massive global recognition they desired for one simple reason: they deliberately rejected it once it became clear what would be required of them.
I read about the name Baalat Gebal, the patron of Byblos. I never found much about what she was actually associated it. The Britannia website says Byblos was regarded the founding place of the Phoenician alphabet, thus the center for its sciences and scholarhood. Baalat Gebal presided over the interpersonal affairs such as government, trade commerce, and the arts. She also ruled fertility, thus the cultivation of abundance. During the Crusaders' occupation of the city, they called it "Gibelet".

I guess the grimoire description saying "all the love that may be", stands for being widely loved by many. (Subjects, countrymen, lovers, passion for arts, etc)
 

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Getting a little bit over what Faria says: Beleth is ranked as King, his nature is solar and that makes him a proud spirit. I think the reason why I went along with him is because both of us are lustful, period. Now I have grown to dislike the ideas of offerings, but I did offerings for him (during sexual encounters) and that I think was the reason he helped me. I wouldn’t like to do any bargaining with a king without offerings if I have not any good leverage on the transaction.

Now for what you want, I think paymon or belial are better. I don’t have experiences with those since I have not looked for fame or recognition
 

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Getting a little bit over what Faria says: Beleth is ranked as King, his nature is solar and that makes him a proud spirit. I think the reason why I went along with him is because both of us are lustful, period. Now I have grown to dislike the ideas of offerings, but I did offerings for him (during sexual encounters) and that I think was the reason he helped me. I wouldn’t like to do any bargaining with a king without offerings if I have not any good leverage on the transaction.

Now for what you want, I think paymon or belial are better. I don’t have experiences with those since I have not looked for fame or recognition
I have thought about Paimon. Years ago, I had undergone a business project with him. But I abandoned the project because the community space was absolutely toxic and I didn't want it anymore. He was furious but things lightened up after a while. Now I been hesitant about approaching Paimon again.
 

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I had a good relationship with Beleth. But I just used him/her/it whatever to get laid, so, no idea about your goals. I find it to be a pretty lustful spirit
Hi SeekerPS, What method did you use? It would be great if you could share your experience. Best regards from latam.
 

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Hi SeekerPS, What method did you use? It would be great if you could share your experience. Best regards from latam.
Hi! I used a mix of Gallery of Magick demons of Magick, and conjurations from Goetia of dr Rudd. Also when I was going to have sex with the targets, what I did was summon and activate the sigil first (I printed it in paper) and then hide it in the bedroom while active, dismissing him after the targets were gone.

If you want a more step by step guide this is what I did

I waited until midnight. At the time, I didn’t concern myself with astronomical timing, but I would suggest paying attention to it if you’re performing the ritual yourself.


I covered the table with a black cloth and used both the general sigil and the demon sigil from the Gallery of Magick book, along with some incense. I remember using a blend marketed as Saint Cyprian incense, mainly because of the thematic connection—Saint Cyprian being traditionally associated with wizards and witches—but any incense would probably suffice.


First, I listened to the regular relaxation exercise from New Avatar Power to help me enter a somewhat hypnotic or trance-like state.


Then I performed the LBRP, followed by Ritual 2 from the book, continuing until I reached the point where I was ready to call the demon. At that stage, I used the invocations from Dr. Rudd, incorporating the name of the corresponding Shem angel.


I would then state my intention clearly and verbally. After that, I performed the banishing and brought the ritual to a close.


If I were going to change anything about the ritual now, I would perform it on a Sunday, around 1 p.m., or during the closest solar hour to midday. I would also incorporate a black mirror into the setup, along with the Bornless One ritual.
 

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Hi! I used a mix of Gallery of Magick demons of Magick, and conjurations from Goetia of dr Rudd. Also when I was going to have sex with the targets, what I did was summon and activate the sigil first (I printed it in paper) and then hide it in the bedroom while active, dismissing him after the targets were gone.

If you want a more step by step guide this is what I did

I waited until midnight. At the time, I didn’t concern myself with astronomical timing, but I would suggest paying attention to it if you’re performing the ritual yourself.


I covered the table with a black cloth and used both the general sigil and the demon sigil from the Gallery of Magick book, along with some incense. I remember using a blend marketed as Saint Cyprian incense, mainly because of the thematic connection—Saint Cyprian being traditionally associated with wizards and witches—but any incense would probably suffice.


First, I listened to the regular relaxation exercise from New Avatar Power to help me enter a somewhat hypnotic or trance-like state.


Then I performed the LBRP, followed by Ritual 2 from the book, continuing until I reached the point where I was ready to call the demon. At that stage, I used the invocations from Dr. Rudd, incorporating the name of the corresponding Shem angel.


I would then state my intention clearly and verbally. After that, I performed the banishing and brought the ritual to a close.


If I were going to change anything about the ritual now, I would perform it on a Sunday, around 1 p.m., or during the closest solar hour to midday. I would also incorporate a black mirror into the setup, along with the Bornless One ritual.
Thank you very much for taking the time to share your method, which is eclectic yet highly effective. So, the Goetic spirit primarily helped bring about the consummation of an encounter that was already well underway—rather than you having to go out and seek targets, right? In other words, your bedroom possessed—so to speak—an energy field that unleashed the (latent) lust of the people involved.
 

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Thank you very much for taking the time to share your method, which is eclectic yet highly effective. So, the Goetic spirit primarily helped bring about the consummation of an encounter that was already well underway—rather than you having to go out and seek targets, right? In other words, your bedroom possessed—so to speak—an energy field that unleashed the (latent) lust of the people involved.
The goal of the ritual was to make them easier to convince to have sexual encounters with me. The summoning for sex was the “payment” for the help, so to speak, so that he would be present and feed from the energies. I used it with 2 different girls. Both agreed to sex with me, but they were affected differently by the spell. I don’t know how much more detail could I give before this becomes pornographic, suffice to say, one was more eager than the other.
 

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The goal of the ritual was to make them easier to convince to have sexual encounters with me. The summoning for sex was the “payment” for the help, so to speak, so that he would be present and feed from the energies. I used it with 2 different girls. Both agreed to sex with me, but they were affected differently by the spell. I don’t know how much more detail could I give before this becomes pornographic, suffice to say, one was more eager than the other.
I see; so it was about facilitating the outcome for something that was already in the works—meaning the Goetia spirit stoked the fire when things were just warming up. As for how the two girls reacted, that reflects how their energy resonates with that specific Goetia spirit. I’ve always believed that magic—or working with entities—enables things you are already pouring energy (and effort) into; it shifts the odds in your favor, and that "extra help" brings the goal to fruition. And regarding offering sexual pleasure or an orgasm: that is the most potent offering for spirits of this plane. Thank you very much for taking the time to answer my questions.
 

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I was considering Beleth for guiding a personal business project to success, (physical products) since Beleth is said to aid in diverse arts and liberal sciences, as well as gaining general favor of people. I've also heard of a craftsman quality to him/her.

I'd like to ask what you've experienced from Beleth's presence if you've ever contacted him.
Beleth is pretty helpful in anything "worldy" really. She's a she for me, that's why I'll call it that.
Honestly, when it comes to the human brain, I don't think there's much she can't do. She could even alter someone's memories or subconscious, and in your case that might make you more successful at creating whatever it is you're trying to create.
Or she could help you change certain things in your own mind. For example, maybe you're someone who tends to avoid eye contact. Once you've understood the feeling you experience when making eye contact, you could tell her that you don't want to feel that way while maintaining eye contact, and it could make the necessary change within you.

I usually use her in situations where I've embarrassed myself or where something I did really shouldn't become known. For example, if someone saw me with someone else and I didn't want that information getting out, I'd ask Beleth for help removing that interaction from their memories, and she gets it done in one go, often just simply calling her name and asking was enough.

I can't even tell you how many times I've gotten myself out of trouble with this kind of memory-erasing or forgetting work.
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I haven't done anything particularly complex with her. Usually it was more along the lines of “X person should stop thinking Y,” “X person should think Z about Y,” or “X person shouldn't have any thoughts about Y at all.”

But she's definitely quite capable. I just don't know what you could offer her to motivate her to take on something bigger.
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Another thing I really like about Beleth is that she does exactly what I ask for. As you know, that's not particularly common with demons. When you ask a demon for a specific outcome regarding X, they may take all kinds of different actions to bring about that outcome, which can sometimes make the experience confusing, frustrating, or feel completely out of your control.
 
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