Demonic Possession in family inheritance case - your ideas and suggestions for workings please!

[tranmut3]

The situation is that 2 older siblings (in their 60's) are fighting over an inheritance.
Their parents left them both a valuable house, but due to tradition, put the deed in the brothers name.
The brother and sister have both been living in the house since their parents died, but the sister has her own family and wants to live with them. So she has been pressing for the house to be sold - like the parents wanted - and the money divided between them.

Here's where the situation gets interesting.
Divination and some brief contacts suggest the brother has been possessed by a demonic entity, due to the way he has been acting, his personality has changed and he has become agressive and dangerous. He has now kicked the sister out of the house and promised her a pittance.

The extended family has been trying to reason with the brother, who clearly is under some sort of demonic influence -several exorcisms were performed and the brother initially seemed to come back to himself, but it doesnt last long. It feels like he enjoys his demonic connection as it makes him physically powerful, energetic but also crazy and the entity soon returns.

I'm looking for your thoughts and ideas please. We want to do a working to resolve things in the sisters favour. And due to their heritage, i am thinking of trying something from the 6th and 7th book of Moses, which i have seen in their house.

What workings can anyone suggest? What outcomes are possible?
Cursing the brother, crippling him, summoning something to bind him is perhaps possible but i wonder if it can be done in a softer way?
Eg some way of (perhaps) restoring peace, workings for justice etc? or is that too lame and we should just curse him into oblivion?
Suggestions please!
And if anyone has any experience in the 6th adn 7th books and can suggest something that would also be great!
I know @Yazata is a master of the 6/7 books- what do you think?

 

[jbyer]

What you really need to do is get some alternative brain activity in there to remove the "Demonic Possession". It's mind control and when it goes off script things get better. Some brain training exercises can get the job done. When that is done you can forward some info from other mind control victims

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. It's not great stuff but it should open people up to the idea of mind control. You are welcome to use my psychic notes

The world we see and feel is not solid, it in some ways doesn't exist. The things we see and feel are activity in our brain. That activity can be the same for multiple people, but that wouldn't make either person or the object being felt real. This is and has been a scientific fact that many people have tried to prove for thousands of years. The nature of human thought provides evidence of this, but it's a struggle to prove beyond a doubt. Since no-one's brain is actually real, stuff like telepathy becomes possible for entities living outside of the simulation. The connection of thoughts from different brains.


Plato was an ancient Greek scholar who lived more than 2000 years ago. He came up with the Allegory of the Cave. Suggesting humans might be mistaking shadows for reality. He believed something called the “soul” preexisted the body and had access to something he referred to as “eternal forms”. He felt that thinking was the soul remembering truths and not the brain operating by itself.

Descartes was a French scholar who was quite famous 100s of years ago. Believed the “mind” and the “body” were distinct substances. The mind was not located in the same place as the body. The brain is the mediator but thought originates in the mind. “I think therefore I am” is grounded in the concept that the brain is merely going through the thought generated by the mind.

Kant was a German philosopher who also lived 100s of years ago. He believed the “structures of thought” come from the mind and not the brain. The brain processes sensations it doesn't think all by itself.

People have talked about how minds talk to each other for years as well.

Arthur Schopenhauer was a German philosopher from 100s of years ago. He claimed that individual “minds” were part of a greater collective that he referred to as “the will”. Your thoughts and other people's thoughts arise from an underlying reality, not always your brain. “The will” communicates with your brain.


William James was an American philosopher from over a 100 years ago. Like the other philosophers he believed that the brain was the filter or transmitter of consciousness and not the sole source. This is the case for everyone else who is conscious and not just himself. He proposed that individual minds are not isolate.

Henri Bergson was a French philosopher from about 100 years ago. He believed consciousness is larger than the individual and that the brain limits and channels it. People's thoughts come from a broad field of consciousness and not just neural activity. Neural activity is itself a simulation though, so it isn't physical either.

An easy-to-understand modern attempt at a proof for simulation theory is

If there is a question that we might be in a simulation, then we most likely are. There would be far more simulations than true realities. As the true reality would create a simulation and that simulation would create a nested simulation. The odds of you being in the very first simulation are very small.

This was proposed by Nick Bostrom

The observer effect is an interesting side effect of being in a simulation. This is the commonly accepted physics principle that the act of observing or measuring something alters it.

 

[HoldAll]

What you really need to do is get some alternative brain activity in there to remove the "Demonic Possession". It's mind control and when it goes off script things get better. Some brain training exercises can get the job done. When that is done you can forward some info from other mind control victims

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. It's not great stuff but it should open people up to the idea of mind control. You are welcome to use my psychic notes

The world we see and feel is not solid, it in some ways doesn't exist. The things we see and feel are activity in our brain. That activity can be the same for multiple people, but that wouldn't make either person or the object being felt real. This is and has been a scientific fact that many people have tried to prove for thousands of years. The nature of human thought provides evidence of this, but it's a struggle to prove beyond a doubt. Since no-one's brain is actually real, stuff like telepathy becomes possible for entities living outside of the simulation. The connection of thoughts from different brains.


Plato was an ancient Greek scholar who lived more than 2000 years ago. He came up with the Allegory of the Cave. Suggesting humans might be mistaking shadows

First paragraph original, the rest is off-topic copypasta from the SimulationTheory subreddit and not in any way helpful.

 

[MorganBlack]

Damn. My two cents:

The family dynamics make this complex. I have carried out a few exorcisms, but nothing like this. I would usually just outsource it, and call in nukes from space. But I'm nicer now.

My initial take. There is no reason to assume they are possessed by a literal demon, as we magicians think of them . In the Western magical canon, demons are the prison wardens of the evil dead and can be called to drag the restless dead who have escaped back to Hell.

In this sense, most "demons" are muertos (dead evil humans). Fucked-up dead humans can be quite horrible and powerful. A Grimorium Verum magician would use a "big bad" like Nebiros to drag a "little bad" (the muerto) back to Hell/Hades.

But they still have the psychological limitations and emotional needs of humans. Think of a dead drunk psycho with amnesia stuck in an afterlife simulation while not knowing they are dead. They are still human, but on an afterlife bender. I would go the mild route of compassion first. A prayer to Divine Love and Mercy for all involved and a speedy resolution to this conflict.

If they are still an issue, up the intensity with...

Psalm 91 and then a more intense Catholic Deliverance prayer:

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Deliverance Prayers For Use by the Laity - Fr. Chad Ripperger

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I do not know your magical mythic bias, so you may or may not like these. The Deliverance Prayers are pretty amazing, and much can be done with them , even if you not a Catholic or a" believer." The Catholic powers and saints (whatever they are) help everybody, no matter their faith, creed, politics, sexual orientation, or background. Just watch our for right-wing Catholics like Fr. Ripperger who will try to tell you otherwise.

Gilberto Strapazon's Shem ritual is pretty great, and meshes with the 6 + 7 BOM, An excellent idea. They are pretty intense, and hardcore.

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After that, if for some odd reason they are dragging their heels, pull out the Grimorium Verum and call in Nebiros to drag them back to Hell.

 

[Yazata]

master of the 6/7 books

The post you are alluding to is an archived one from an old member, not something I wrote.
What @MorganBlack writes seems like a good plan before bringing some peace between the two

 

[A.Nox]

This is a serious and complicated family situation, so it’s worth approaching it with calm maturity and seriousness before we jump into any workings…

From the post it seems the “demonic possession” idea comes from divination and also from the fact that several exorcisms were performed – after which the brother temporarily improved, but then everything went back to how it was. At the same time he’s described as gaining strength, energy and even seeming to enjoy the state. That s an important detail, because it doesn’t feel like a situation where the person is clearly suffering and fighting.

The most important thing right now is to figure out what the poster really wants – because that changes everything about the magic.

Do you mainly want fully remove or bind the influence?
Or is the goal to help the sister get the house back and split the inheritance like the parents wanted?
Or just calm down the family fighting? Once that s clear we can pick the right approach. For example:
• ancestor work to strengthen the parents’ original wishes
• binding the brother’s aggression and greed without going full attack
• or some targeted stuff from the 6th and 7th Books of Moses focused on justice and rightful claim

Magic works way better when it s pointed straight at what you actually want to achieve.

 

[FireBorn]

If the brother actually enjoys the possession, then full removal may not even be the cleanest or most realistic thing. In that case, the best outcome may be a temporary exorcism followed immediately by binding and legal action.

Get documents ready in advance. Do another exorcism, have him sign what needs signing for the sale of the house or for transfer of control before the demon shows back up, or the brother invites it back.

If the issue is severe enough that he is functionally unstable, then legal incompetence or psychiatric intervention may be the more practical route. That may sound harsh, but you did not ask for a clean fairytale ending. You asked for resolution. The goal is to end the stalemate, protect the sister, and force the situation into a form that can actually be resolved.

I would personally consider identifying the spirit and negotiating directly. If the entity wants to remain in the brother, then having the brother sign the necessary documents in exchange for being left alone afterward may be easier than trying to force both an unwilling man and an attached spirit into total compliance. That is 2 battles instead of 1. You just might be able to win the war without fighting the battles.

This seems like the shortest path to an actual result the sister can live with.