Experiences with Enochian Magic

[ashlesha]

Hello! After searching through the forum several times, I haven't found too many people talking about their overall experiences with Enochian magic or scrying the aethyrs!

For my background, even though I did pentagram rituals and tried studying Golden Dawn & Thelema, I never really got into it. I spent much more time invested in Renaissance magic and the solomonic tradition, and I think this kept Enochian pretty clean for me. I think in Thelema people go through the Aethyrs after a long while of being invested in the system, so they're already seasoned practitioners. My hot take is that I think enochian magic can be way more effective for beginners than for "adepts"!

My own experiences with the Aethyrs was over the course of about 2 months. I would scry one every 2-3 days, averaging about 3 a week. Some weekends I would go through one daily after I got a huge insight, and the govenors said something about stuff coming up. I used Enochian Vision Magic by Duquette and Frater Yechidah's books as my main guides, and was only stopped by the govenors from progressing twice: at ZIP (9) where I was told to remain in ZAX (10) for the rest of the week to prepare me for the higher aethyrs, and at PAZ (4), where I was told to remain for a while longer.

Looking back, while a lot of the visions were cool and flowery, the best part of the whole process was getting a huge flash of personal insight about myself. Things like getting the inspiration to move away, to friends with particular interests I felt inspired to get to know, or even how I behave when going on dates! I quit my job, reconciled a huge strain between me and my parents, and completely reoriented myself from "occult seeker" to something...maybe a little less pretentious
It would usually just be 24-48 hours until the insights hit me, and I'd sit with my dreams & visions to help tease it out, which did always have the keys to the insight. Of course there was a lot of other mystical stuff that came up, reconciling myself across dimensions, ideas similar to Thelemic True Will popping up as God's Divine Plan, and a lot on the Holy Guardian Angel as a higher dimensional organism to become in line with, which is also just a refraction of some larger organism above it. Not super useful stuff, but definitely inspired the part of me that wanted to know more and more and more.

After sitting with the experience for a while, I have a few thoughts on the overall process. I think scrying the Aethyrs may actually be one of the best things for an aspirant to do, since it really peels back layers of the consciousness. Instead of months of pentagram rituals, or learning how to meditate, someone could really just leap straight in and peel themselves like a banana to get to the core. I haven't gone back to the aethyrs, but I think I may make it a yearly process!

As far as practical stuff, I haven't gotten much results out of using enochian angels in the way Scott Stenwick describes in his books on the Heptarchia. I only really tried once, and it was for a pretty far-out goal, but I also haven't really felt that inspired to try again. I really like Enochian magic for its role in my overall mystical practice, and using it has overall made me a wiser, more grounded person. What does everyone else think?

 

[Yazata]

Hi!
I set out to go through the aethyrs last year, but from the start changed pretty much everything that makes Enochian Enochian. Made up and changed my mind lots of times in the year, and really rushed through the last ones. There's (too) much ramblings and sidenotes in this journal:

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The past few months while working on a few projects a couple of funny synchronicities happened that I joked about in some threads without going into detail. @pixel_fortune 's post on the Lion's Gate made me decide I “had to” start something on that day, and as I usually do 1 year projects that...

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[ashlesha]

Hi!
I set out to go through the aethyrs last year, but from the start changed pretty much everything that makes Enochian Enochian. Made up and changed my mind lots of times in the year, and really rushed through the last ones. There's (too) much ramblings and sidenotes in this journal:

Journal - Art & Science & Crafts

The past few months while working on a few projects a couple of funny synchronicities happened that I joked about in some threads without going into detail. @pixel_fortune 's post on the Lion's Gate made me decide I “had to” start something on that day, and as I usually do 1 year projects that...

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Currently reading but I already love what you've done. From Enochian to Benochian is a future Merriam-Webster hit

I think your weaving of prior experience and synchronicities is exactly how Enochian is supposed to play out for us modern practitioners. Not as a rigid curriculum into a particular system as if it's an external aspect of ourselves where we have to impress symbols and archetypes into our subconscious in order to grasp, but a curriculum into ourselves that emphasizes the relationship of ourselves to wisdom, rather than wisdom as the goal, or ourselves as the recipient. This emphasizes whatever pre-existing symbolic architecture we have, and I think this is emphasized by Enochian using cryptography and words as its symbolic architecture, rather than images like tarot. What comes to mind now is viewing its work as finding one's Holy Spirit in the trinity. Even still, I see a lot of similar symbols popping up between both of our visions, so maybe I'm wrong, what a fun mystery!

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Some overall thoughts after reading the whole thread:

• I didn't get as much sexual symbolism as you & DuQuette say is common! I had way more symbols of stairs, trees, shapes, hallways, people, and mountains.
• Your diving into the origin of words is pretty cool, very typhonian style of interpreting the words and composition of words. I never felt called to this style of interpretation, and I think it "flattens" my interpretations of my visions. Your dives are so so so interesting!
• On how you interpret the aires as parts of the earth & onion layers that surround the earth in your July 3rd post: While I think this is true, I think this is the macrocosmic interpretation of these forces for Dee, while the mystical application is more similar to Merkavah descent into one's own being. I think this explains both their use as macrocosmic representations of the world, while also having real internal correspondences that can mirror the chain of manifestation. To me this would localize them at the heart, but I like your anatomical correspondences for the skull too.

Also, @Yazata the middle pillar ritual you wrote is similar to Stenwick's AOIVEAE ritual

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I also adapted a form of this in some side-explorations, very similar to yours

I did a form of the 19 day ritual too, and even though I didn't get as many striking insights from it, I think it did a lot for "installing" myself into the Enochian current of things. Working with the angels of the great table now feels way more effortless than when before I did it!

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Oops I can't edit my post but I actually meant THIS ritual by Stenwick, not his AOIVEAE ritual:

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[MerlinLeGrande]

I had the experience that enochian magic is the best for spiritual developement and it charges the aura very strongly.

 

[WolfAmongSheep]

Mr. Mythos on YouTube did a show on Crowleys results. It's a decent watch, if you're not doing anything.

 

[Hada Yasmin]

Hello! After searching through the forum several times, I haven't found too many people talking about their overall experiences with Enochian magic or scrying the aethyrs!

For my background, even though I did pentagram rituals and tried studying Golden Dawn & Thelema, I never really got into it. I spent much more time invested in Renaissance magic and the solomonic tradition, and I think this kept Enochian pretty clean for me. I think in Thelema people go through the Aethyrs after a long while of being invested in the system, so they're already seasoned practitioners. My hot take is that I think enochian magic can be way more effective for beginners than for "adepts"!

My own experiences with the Aethyrs was over the course of about 2 months. I would scry one every 2-3 days, averaging about 3 a week. Some weekends I would go through one daily after I got a huge insight, and the govenors said something about stuff coming up. I used Enochian Vision Magic by Duquette and Frater Yechidah's books as my main guides, and was only stopped by the govenors from progressing twice: at ZIP (9) where I was told to remain in ZAX (10) for the rest of the week to prepare me for the higher aethyrs, and at PAZ (4), where I was told to remain for a while longer.

Looking back, while a lot of the visions were cool and flowery, the best part of the whole process was getting a huge flash of personal insight about myself. Things like getting the inspiration to move away, to friends with particular interests I felt inspired to get to know, or even how I behave when going on dates! I quit my job, reconciled a huge strain between me and my parents, and completely reoriented myself from "occult seeker" to something...maybe a little less pretentious
It would usually just be 24-48 hours until the insights hit me, and I'd sit with my dreams & visions to help tease it out, which did always have the keys to the insight. Of course there was a lot of other mystical stuff that came up, reconciling myself across dimensions, ideas similar to Thelemic True Will popping up as God's Divine Plan, and a lot on the Holy Guardian Angel as a higher dimensional organism to become in line with, which is also just a refraction of some larger organism above it. Not super useful stuff, but definitely inspired the part of me that wanted to know more and more and more.

After sitting with the experience for a while, I have a few thoughts on the overall process. I think scrying the Aethyrs may actually be one of the best things for an aspirant to do, since it really peels back layers of the consciousness. Instead of months of pentagram rituals, or learning how to meditate, someone could really just leap straight in and peel themselves like a banana to get to the core. I haven't gone back to the aethyrs, but I think I may make it a yearly process!

As far as practical stuff, I haven't gotten much results out of using enochian angels in the way Scott Stenwick describes in his books on the Heptarchia. I only really tried once, and it was for a pretty far-out goal, but I also haven't really felt that inspired to try again. I really like Enochian magic for its role in my overall mystical practice, and using it has overall made me a wiser, more grounded person. What does everyone else think?

You made some excellent points here.

 

[Frater R.P.G.]

Not sure how I missed this thread all this time. Enochian Magic is my main system, so I could talk about it all day. I'll try to summarise my key experiences.

I first heard about Enochian Magic when going through Donald Michael Kraig's Modern Magick system. I was a beginner back then and did not know much about anything, however I felt a strong pull as soon as I read the word "Enochian". Kraig did not really cover Enochiana in any detail, but I did get exposed to Enochian energies through the Supreme Ritual of the Pentagram. I remember thinking that this ritual was on a different level from the others in the course, which confirmed further my interest in the subject. As I learnt more about the GD and AA systems that Kraig borrowed from, I got introduced to Enochiana more properly. Eventually, after a workshop with Lon Milo Duquette and reading his book, I started a regular practice of skrying the 30 Aires.

Skrying the Aires was very unique, because unlike my experiences with evocation or skrying the Tree of Life, the visions were almost effortless. Just read the call, close eyes, and get a dream. In fact, those visions were also much more chaotic and highly personal, like dreams. They varied from extremely abstract to rather down-to-earth. But they always contained some sort of lesson for me. I can't say I noticed any particular general themes in the visions, though death was pretty common. I also don't think my visions aligned much with Crowley's mapping of the Aires on the Tree of Life. Though I did get some Thelemic symbolism, I think it's mostly because I was myself situated in that current at that time.

The first few Aires I skried just a few times and I've been more or less subtly guided to move on. Every now and then, I would get stuck in an Aire for longer - apparently some specific change had to occur. It wasn't always entirely clear. I would be either explicitly told to wait before going further, or I would simply stop getting visions. The further I got, the slower was my progress, which makes sense I guess. It took me roughly 9 years to skry all 30. I had a few breaks during that time, of course.

After some visions in ZIP I got stuck for a very long time, almost 3 years (in which time my life changed drastically for the better). It was around that time that the angels strongly urged me to study Dee's diaries and abandon GD methods entirely, which they have already hinted at being incorrect years before, and later on I have found that to be true. So I did just that, and slowly started learning more about the system. Since then I've transformed my practice completely and in the recent years I've been practising almost exclusively Enochian Magic.

I have performed the 19-day working and worked with the 91 Governors and the Heptarchia. All provided amazing material results. At the same time, I am constantly guided by the angels in my research of the system.

Since I stopped using GD methods, I have developed my own Enochian Pentagram Ritual for regular practice. It's been tested so far by ~20 people and the feedback tells me it's really a much stronger ritual. It's still unpublished in English, but I am happy to share it (DM me if interested).

I'm still working on some tools, but I've acquired the most difficult ones (glad I got the ring and lamen before the gold prices went crazy). I haven't performed Gebofal yet, as I've been told by the angels to first reconstruct Liber Loagaeth. I am working on that now and hopefully I should be done by the end of the year so that I can attempt it next Easter.

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I went briefly now over my diary of the most recent attempt at the 19-day working, using an adaptation of my pentagram ritual and the Keys (as per Stenwick's system). While working with the Aires generally provided a lot of insight into myself, the Great Table working taught me more about the angelic system itself. For example, it was during my day 2 vision that the angels warned me about errors in Liber Scientiae (see my article

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). In several subsequent visions I likewise learnt more about the nature of the GT spirits with relation to time, for example 24 seniors = 24 hours of the day, six per each: morning (East), midday (South), evening (West), night (North), which makes a lot of sense if you read the Calls. Some other messages were more cryptic and I still haven't figured them out.