Seeking Recommendation Grimores that actually worship the devil.

[Zuck Enabler]

So I've been trying to find conjurations from old grimores and they're ALL at least a little Christian.

Here's an example, this being one of the most actually satanic conjurations I have come across. Still the christian stuff is in bold.

I conjure thee, 0 Guland, in the name of Satan, in the name of Beelzebuth,
in the name of Astaroth, and in the name of all other Spirits, to make haste
and appear before me. Come, then in the name of Satan and in the names of
all other demons. Come to me, I command thee, in the name of the Most
Holy Trinity. Come without inflicting any harm upon me, without injury to
my body or soul, without maltreating my books, or anything which I use. I
command thee to appear without delay, or, that failing, to send me
forthwith another Spirit having the same power as thou hast, who shall
accomplish my commands and be submitted to my will, wanting which, he
whom thou shalt send me, if indeed thou comest not thyself, shall in no
wise depart, nor until he bath in all things fulfilled my desire

or often times they'll invoke like 20 hebrew names of god to compel the demon to appear.

More or less all the christian stuff is about threatening or bullying the demon to do your bidding or to protect the sorcerer from the demon they're conjuring.
This is at odds with modern theistic satanism that seems to regard invoking god or jesus for protection or being afraid of the demons to be bad form.
Surely a long time ago someone had the idea of actually worshipping satan and not trying to enslave him or shake him down for goodies?

Does anyhow have such texts or maybe conjurations, prayers, or spells from such texts?

 

[Zuck Enabler]

It seems to me that most or all grimores I find are about bullying demons, either to protect the sorcerer or to compel the demon to doing the sorcerer's bidding against their will.

Are there any ancient materials out there that actually worship the devil?
(I have a more detailed version of this post in the left hand subforum if anyone needs specific examples)

 

[Yazata]

Moved and merged

 

[GreyBird]

Aeon Sophia Press they have books.

 

[HoldAll]

Aeon Sophia Press they have books.

They obviously have. Is there a specific one you'd like to recommend?

 

[Zuck Enabler]

Aeon Sophia Press they have books.

I see the books, I'm not really familiar with these.

I'm specifically looking for things that are at least, oh, 300 years old, preferably solomonic and that more closely resemble the beginning of the conjuration in my original post and less the parts that are in bold.

They need to be old and be strictly diabolical without a lot of bullying the demon with god or christ to get what you want. I'm sure such things existed but the people doing such things had to ho doubt be ultra secret whereas stuff like the testament and lemegeton appeared to have an underground network of people associated with the church supporting its distribution.

I think my example may have originated in such a book and then had the jesus stuff added in for protection. I doubt a whole book will pop up I'm sure everything like that was destroyed or is part of someone's secret collection or is the centerpiece of some fraternity, etc. What I do think probably exists out there to be found are pieces of those books that get copied down into the patchwork personal spellbooks that are out there where the owner copies down anything that comes his way. Like the book of oberon.

 

[FraterFraxinus]

Isnt the devil inherently an judaochristian concept?
If you want to blieve in one you kinda have to believe in the other as well, no?

 

[Zuck Enabler]

Well yes, and I should point out I’m an atheist doing this on behalf of theistic Satanists. I try not to get hung up on the specifics of peoples religions.

These guys believe in the Christian spiritual action universe. They just think that god isn’t a nice guy and maybe the demons had a point.

Most Solomonic text involves harassing and annoying demons whereas most modern theistic Satanists want a relationship with a demon and don’t want to shout the 27 secret names of god at it until it gets so annoyed that it shows up just to make you stop. Also I guess it’s bad form to show fear for the demons so protection spells aren’t their thing either.

 

[Robert Ramsay]

I'm not sure such a thing as you are asking for exists, especially if you want it to be hundreds of years old.

You could of course do what many famous occultists have done over the years - write it yourself and then claim that the teaching is hundreds of years old

 

[MorganBlack]

The Folkloric Devil can mostly be found in the Cyprianic goetic tradition of the Iberian peninsula (Spain and Portugal) - where a lot of the classic witchy aesthetics we know today come from , and are sill popular in Mexico- the bats, black cats, toads, etc. Classic! While devilish it's still not what most are looking for or 'devil worship.'

In the Book of Saint Cyprian, The Devil is a complex and transactional figure. He’ll grant your wish or show you where the gold is buried, but there’s often a catch - he'll also tell you to feed the poor, and look after a neighbor. Basically encouraging you to stop being an egregious asshole. Here The Devil isn't trying to 'overthrow God' so much as he is managing the material world's messy bits. He's a trickster but hardly the nasty Turbo-Satan of Protestantism.

For the really nasty stuff, French Diabolism is a good place to look. Not endorsing. Too much aborted baby fat candles for my tastes. Check out Catherine Monvoisin (La Voisin) and the The Affair of the Poisons that took place between 1677 and 1682. Based on the court records of King Louis XIV's Burning Court the grimoire they were using was most likely my fave, the Grimorium Verum (no other grim tradition has Astaroth and Belzebuth playing such huge roles). La Voisin worked with a defrocked priest Etienne Guiborg, running the GV + Black Masses for the Parisian nobility, before somebody's loose lips got them the guillotine. The GV has a mass required, but it's the tradional one and not a Black Mass. You can try swapping it out, and see what happens.