How to defend yourself against daemons

[blacksmith]

I will keep it simple: I had little experience with magick, decided to try goetia, got into it, made very big mistakes, and two people died.
The guys I messed with have been messing with me for 2 years straight now. I want to learn the right way to get rid of them without more trouble. (I have been away from magick since that.) (And as some of you may be thinking, i am very good at getting in trouble indeed.)

 

[NightWatchman95]

hold up there buddy, first we have to know just what pacts you were forming with whom. second thing is to NOT blame yourself for their deaths, its not only not true but that internalized guilt will be a weak point any evil entity might use to hijack your mind. ground yourself and stay present accepting yourself for who you are and they cant hurt you, nothing earns their respect more than a person who has integrated their shadow.

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short answer: self compassion is a go to shield against demonic attacks. no need for sigils, just sitting with yourself as your own best friend.

 

[William66]

I will keep it simple: I had little experience with magick, decided to try goetia, got into it, made very big mistakes, and two people died.
The guys I messed with have been messing with me for 2 years straight now. I want to learn the right way to get rid of them without more trouble. (I have been away from magick since that.) (And as some of you may be thinking, i am very good at getting in trouble indeed.)

You can always try voodoo spells to bind them so they won’t harass you or mess with you.

May i ask, out of curiousity, what method did you use and which spirit was called?

 

[Yazata]

I will keep it simple: I had little experience with magick, decided to try goetia, got into it, made very big mistakes, and two people died.
The guys I messed with have been messing with me for 2 years straight now. I want to learn the right way to get rid of them without more trouble. (I have been away from magick since that.) (And as some of you may be thinking, i am very good at getting in trouble indeed.)

If these two guys that you are talking about are the demons from the title of this thread then you could maybe give this a try:

Getting rid of Pazuzu and beelzebub

Greetings, I just recently noticed my enemies sent to my life 2 great demons to scew me. Those demons are Pazuzu and Beelzebub. I do not know black magick as I only pray at nights and sometimes I have called planetary spirits and or angels. What can I do to get rid of those demons?

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[blacksmith]

I started with Glasya-Labolas. I thought I could handle it,invisibility, influence, maybe a bit of knowledge... but I wasn’t ready. Things spiraled. I didn’t banish right, I didn’t close anything, and I didn’t expect others to get hurt. I didn’t do a written pact just verbal, late at night, improvised. I basically offered ‘influence and fearlessness’ in exchange for power over a certain situation I was obsessed with. Dumb move. I didn’t set terms, limits, or duration. And I had no protections in place. Two weeks later, things started getting bad, and they’ve never fully stopped.

 

[lumineth Realm Lord]

I will keep it simple: I had little experience with magick, decided to try goetia, got into it, made very big mistakes, and two people died.
The guys I messed with have been messing with me for 2 years straight now. I want to learn the right way to get rid of them without more trouble. (I have been away from magick since that.) (And as some of you may be thinking, i am very good at getting in trouble indeed.)

Let me tell you a story.

Some years ago, I met a man. He told me that he got involved with a satanic group that involved animal sacrifice. He got stuff, but was then being tormented by what he called evil spirits. He converted to born again Christian and they're still bothering him. He claims this is the fate all occultists deal with.

He really annoyed me. My theory is that these weren't actually evil spirits. They were possibly normal earthly spirits who were deeply offended by him and his satanic group. Frankly, if I found out someone was hurting dogs, cats, or some other small animal, outside of food or self defense, I'd want to beat his ass too. Hell, I beat myself up over accidentally maiming a toad while weed trimming.

He thought he could convert to a new religion, and let that be that. Obviously that didn't work, because of course it wouldn't work! Why would it? You hurt animals and thought God was gonna rescue you? What really made me mad is that he lumped all of us with him. I stormed off to keep myself from saying/doing something I'd regret.

Anyway, the point is that these are living thinking and feeling beings your working with. You gotta treat them that way. This includes both formally introducing yourself, getting to know them, and having a means to keep them under control.

When I first got into demon stuff, I started with three books on demonolatry by S. Connolly, and one or two by Asaneth Mason, a Luciferian writer. These authors taught me to approach these spirits with respect and reverence, like you would with a god like Odin. You don't give like a servant, but you address their power without diminishing yours. As well as ways to create a sacred space that resonates with their energies, which pacifying them.

The traditional Goetic way is basically like wrangling in wild beasts, then demanding they perform by showing off a badge and cracking a whip. They don't like that. That's why so many steps are involved. They're literally safety nets.

In my opinion, if you're gonna work with the Goetic spirits, I suggest you do as I did. But before that, I'd suggest you familiarize yourself with some god or gods first. Develop a relationship so they can help you.

 

[FireBorn]

Just wanted to toss my .02 in here for what its worth. Maybe some perspective can help (maybe not). In my experience, demons arent 'out to get you'.
One question I would ask you directly would be 'How do you know that the '2 dudes' you invoked were actual demons and not imposters or mimics? What you are describing doesnt sound like demonic behavior. it sounds a lot more like parasitic (or energy feeder) behavior. Dark, challenging, dangerous. Maybe something you should look into.

Regarding what you can do about it? Well, in the spirit realm everything is based on censent. If you give consent, consciously or not, then you are suseptable to attacks, being fed on, being bothered, etc. Try telling them to leave. Say this: "I do not give consent for you to be here. Leave. I will not feed you, I will not entertain you. This is my home and my will is sealed". This is exactly what I use so I know it works. I have used to to banish shadow people, parasitic entities, astral sludge and lookie loos, other spirits, demons who dont align with my fire. I know it works and have used it hundreds of times.

Regarding what to do moving forward: When you are ready, choose a demon you want to work with. I would suggest maybe looking at the names (who cares what they look like or what is written about what they do, they do so much more than what is written about). Just read the names of the demons and see which one calls to you. Then invoke that demon. Ask that demon during your ritual if they are the right demon to work with. If they say no (and they can) then ask for a suggestion of who would align with you best. Then invoke that one. Ask them to teach you directly. At that point, take all direction from that spirit, including which one to work with next. They might initiate you directly. This is basically my path. I dont need books, I just do the work with the spirits.

I hope something helps, or at least challenges ideas and give you something to think about.

Last thing, if things get out of control remember you do not have to consent. You can close the ritual and banish if you feel unsafe. Demons will never ask you to harm yourself or others. Never. If you hear that from a demon, its not a demon, close the ritual and banish. Discernment is everything.

Good luck!!

 

[Jhary-a-Conel]

Therapy.

 

[JohnnyOmm]

Just wanted to toss my .02 in here for what its worth. Maybe some perspective can help (maybe not). In my experience, demons arent 'out to get you'.
One question I would ask you directly would be 'How do you know that the '2 dudes' you invoked were actual demons and not imposters or mimics? What you are describing doesnt sound like demonic behavior. it sounds a lot more like parasitic (or energy feeder) behavior. Dark, challenging, dangerous. Maybe something you should look into.

Regarding what you can do about it? Well, in the spirit realm everything is based on censent. If you give consent, consciously or not, then you are suseptable to attacks, being fed on, being bothered, etc. Try telling them to leave. Say this: "I do not give consent for you to be here. Leave. I will not feed you, I will not entertain you. This is my home and my will is sealed". This is exactly what I use so I know it works. I have used to to banish shadow people, parasitic entities, astral sludge and lookie loos, other spirits, demons who dont align with my fire. I know it works and have used it hundreds of times.

Regarding what to do moving forward: When you are ready, choose a demon you want to work with. I would suggest maybe looking at the names (who cares what they look like or what is written about what they do, they do so much more than what is written about). Just read the names of the demons and see which one calls to you. Then invoke that demon. Ask that demon during your ritual if they are the right demon to work with. If they say no (and they can) then ask for a suggestion of who would align with you best. Then invoke that one. Ask them to teach you directly. At that point, take all direction from that spirit, including which one to work with next. They might initiate you directly. This is basically my path. I dont need books, I just do the work with the spirits.

I hope something helps, or at least challenges ideas and give you something to think about.

Last thing, if things get out of control remember you do not have to consent. You can close the ritual and banish if you feel unsafe. Demons will never ask you to harm yourself or others. Never. If you hear that from a demon, its not a demon, close the ritual and banish. Discernment is everything.

Good luck!!

This doesn’t work especially with Palero attacks with muertos like what happened to me

 

[Zeelu]

As I see the situation there are three parts to the problem, kicking the entity out of your place, removing their ability to continue to locate you, and the third part is preventing further unwanted intrusions.

For removing them I would recommend the hermetic banishing rituals, such as the LBRP or the stronger varients. Those have been proven to be very effective against abramamic entities. There is also a method referred to as a Zone right that is becoming more popular, in a Zone rite you kick everything out then invite the spirits you want to work with back in which makes it different from a normal banishing ritual.

For the issue of them finding you over and over, typically such entities create a link to you spiritually. I refer to these as astral hooks. There are a variety of ways to sever this, such as psychic surgery, cord cutting rituals using obsidian knives run close to the body and other methods. Some folks project energy through visualization and will instead of using an actual physical knife. Once the links are severed you will not find them easilly following you place to place in most cases. You can also find such links placed on objects or locations. Moving could be an option, as well as ritually purifying items that you have interactions with. Some spirits are also able to sever such links for you.

The third part is done by protecting your home. Use of brown sage, creation of various protective talismans and wards, perhaps creating protective servitors. There are cleansing washes you can do, various powders you can dust with etc. You can also work with one of the angels that has authority over that particular group of demonic entities etc or ask for protection from other dieties or spirits etc. Its also generally the case that a daily ritual of the lbrp and middle piller tends to make the environment inhospitable for negative entities. One of the options for protective talismans to have it with you all the time is to use talismanic cards placed in your wallet or purse. I find that more comfortable than things like mojo bags where you're supposed to hide it in your clothing.

 

[aviaf]

Dealing with unwanted entities is usually threefold:

Banishing: Use daily rituals like the LBRP, BRH, or a Zone rite to clear your space of negative influences.
Severing links: Break “astral hooks” with cord-cutting, psychic surgery, or purifying objects.
Protection: Make your space inhospitable—protective talismans, servitors, cleansing powders, or working with protective spirits. Protective runes like Algiz (defense), Thurisaz (warding), Eihwaz (boundaries), or bind runes combining these symbols can reinforce barriers even more—carry them as talismans

Remember: Consent is key. Stop giving it, assert your will, and reclaim authority. For darker traditions like Palero attacks, specialized guidance may be necessary. Clarity, discipline, and strong boundaries are your best defense.

 

[FireBorn]

This doesn’t work especially with Palero attacks with muertos like what happened to me

I’m going to push back a bit here, not to argue, but to clarify something important.

I believe you when you say that specific method didn’t work for you, and I don’t doubt that certain attacks, especially those involving traditions like Palo or work with muertos—bring a different intensity and complexity.

But to say outright that “this doesn’t work” feels off. Banishing does work. I’ve done it, others have done it, and even against extraordinarily powerful spirits. The method matters. The will behind the words matters. The spiritual ecosystem and the nature of the entity matters.

I don’t want to turn this into a pissing contest or a technique debate, but it’s important to name the difference between:

• “That didn’t work for me in that situation,”
• vs. “That doesn’t work, period.”

There's a canyon between those two statements. So while I respect your experience, I also encourage people reading this to not throw out tools that have worked for others just because they didn’t work once, under unknown variables.

 

[Zeelu]

I've had some experience with runes and their practical application myself.

I would say that while your Thurisaz interpretation does in fact, match exactly what is claimed in the rune books on it, I've found it actually has no effect at all on Abrahamic entities when I've played with it. Certainly it might be that others have more of a connection to it than I do which may be why. It practical application I've found it seems to have more an affect similar to encountering iron in fae type entities. I had a rather strong effect with the hammer sign in comparison.

I would also consider Isa in a talisman to prevent unwanted entries when placed over windows and doors and such. Bind runes are not a bad approach though in general I've found that symbols related to the entities pantheon its tied to have more affect than those outside of it. Its kind of liked if someone only spoke German and you tried to order them about in Spanish otherwise.

Protection: Make your space inhospitable—protective talismans, servitors, cleansing powders, or working with protective spirits. Protective runes like Algiz (defense), Thurisaz (warding), Eihwaz (boundaries), or bind runes combining these symbols can reinforce barriers even more—carry them as talismans

 

[aviaf]

I would say that while your Thurisaz interpretation does in fact, match exactly what is claimed in the rune books on it, I've found it actually has no effect at all on Abrahamic entities when I've played with it. Certainly it might be that others have more of a connection to it than I do which may be why. It practical application I've found it seems to have more an affect similar to encountering iron in fae type entities. I had a rather strong effect with the hammer sign in comparison.

I would also consider Isa in a talisman to prevent unwanted entries when placed over windows and doors and such. Bind runes are not a bad approach though in general I've found that symbols related to the entities pantheon its tied to have more affect than those outside of it. Its kind of liked if someone only spoke German and you tried to order them about in Spanish otherwise.

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Where did you get the first quote from? I never said that.
I hear what you’re saying, but Thurisaz isn’t just a symbol on wood, it’s a living current. Without relationship, it can feel flat—like iron to the fae. But when it’s worked as more than a mark in a book, it carries the same force as the hammer itself: sharp, forceful, and undeniable.
Isa and talismans can serve as static wards, sure, but that’s a passive defense. A living rune is dynamic; it doesn’t just sit there, it responds. It pushes back, it grows teeth, it adapts in ways prefabricated rituals can’t. Bind runes, hammer signs, pantheon-specific symbols—they all work to a point. But the deeper truth is that runes are not decorations, they’re conduits of force.
I’ve found runic wards to be effective regardless of what kind of entity you’re dealing with. The strength isn’t in having a neat ritual formula, it’s in a living relationship with the current you’re working.

It’s not that Thurisaz is weak—it’s that without the connection, you’re swinging an empty glyph instead of the hammer itself. And as for abrahamic entities? They’re bitches. Their whole current is propped up on obedience and borrowed/stolen authority. When they meet Thurisaz, it’s like watching a whip snap back on the hand that holds it... chains shatter easy when you answer them with thunder. Thurisaz doesn’t bow to chains—it breaks them.
That’s the part no outline of options can substitute for. Textbook spirits don’t exist, and real spirits aren’t fooled by copy-paste magic. Magick isn’t words on a page; it’s the current you feed with your own fire.

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After reading that through, I seem to have come off as a little combative. I'm going to post it anyway, don't get butthurt. I look forward to talking to you more, you seem to know your shit. Time will tell. I'm laid up for a while after an injury, so I'm here all month lol

 

[AbammonTheGreat]

Dealing with unwanted entities is usually threefold:

Banishing: Use daily rituals like the LBRP, BRH, or a Zone rite to clear your space of negative influences.
Severing links: Break “astral hooks” with cord-cutting, psychic surgery, or purifying objects.
Protection: Make your space inhospitable—protective talismans, servitors, cleansing powders, or working with protective spirits. Protective runes like Algiz (defense), Thurisaz (warding), Eihwaz (boundaries), or bind runes combining these symbols can reinforce barriers even more—carry them as talismans

Remember: Consent is key. Stop giving it, assert your will, and reclaim authority. For darker traditions like Palero attacks, specialized guidance may be necessary. Clarity, discipline, and strong boundaries are your best defense.

Im gonna second this comment as its the one that resonates the most in my personal experience.

Daily cleansing and purification does wonders but also doing a larger banishing/binding working helps tremendously when you're targeted. Work with diety in this regard. Start your mornings aligning with godforms and purifying. In the ceremony you'll either want to use godnames, angels, or entities to banish the spirits. This riskier move but most effective would be binding the "evil spirit" in an object or image and then stabbing the object with a consecrated athame. That one requires a lot of realized personal authority but would communicate to whatever spirit is messing with you that you mean absolute business and will hurt it.