[Opinion] How you think about "god"?

[akenu]

To know Himself and manifest His properties. Our perception of the world within our minds is His eyes.
All phenomena can be reduced to twelve manifestations, then to seven, and ultimately to three basic archetypal principles — the Holy Trinity. Yet He is One. These three are simply distinct properties of the same unity.


According to the Sephirotic Tree, the Creator manifests through three fundamental functions: Force, Structure, and that which activates and unites them. Through their interaction, everything comes into being and operates.


Why is this necessary? As the Kabbalists say, it is in order to see Himself — to appear in the mirror. The entire world we perceive is His reflection in all its forms.


These three fundamental properties combine with one another through reflection and opposition, generating the multiplicity of possible manifestations. His role is to know Himself through our eyes.

So, you don't consider Demiurge the fake creator who created suffering for his own incompetence?

 

[YevheniiaM]

So, you don't consider Demiurge the fake creator who created suffering for his own incompetence?

I don't care about his competence. In any case, only someone higher up and smarter can evaluate his competence. We can't even really understand the structure, so how can we evaluate it? But we can, of course, express our dissatisfaction, and we do so with pleasure. Why not? I very often and angrily argue with the Creator, and sometimes this even helps solve the problem. I write mental complaints, and they sound something like this: “Couldn't you have designed this crap differently, or at least explained how this crap of yours works? How am I supposed to make decisions if I don't understand the result? Are you kidding me? Your hands are out of your ass.” Well, that's how it happens. Yes, we certainly have the right to be angry. But if you think about it, the whole secret of Evil lies in Geburah, in this limiter that generates all pain. I don't know how I could create form if I didn't limit infinite abundance, in order to offer the Creator a solution to the problem of evil. Can you suggest something better?

 

[Ganman]

Very interesting discussion I just wanted to open up such a thread actually. I've been pondering on this. I believe there is a source power that is higher than everything. But unlike religious people, I cannot claim that I understand it. @YevheniiaM Your comment resonates with me very much I find it very intelligent. Actually claiming to know and rate him and his "competence" is putting yourself on or above his level, which is the highest form of arrogance there can be. But for me I think we can only at best grasp parts rays of light if anything from him.

 

[YevheniiaM]

Very interesting discussion I just wanted to open up such a thread actually. I've been pondering on this. I believe there is a source power that is higher than everything. But unlike religious people, I cannot claim that I understand it. @YevheniiaM Your comment resonates with me very much I find it very intelligent. Actually claiming to know and rate him and his "competence" is putting yourself on or above his level, which is the highest form of arrogance there can be. But for me I think we can only at best grasp parts rays of light if anything from him.

I would say that it, in its sparkling form, is always within us, but hidden. It can be sensed. I call this feeling inspiration. If you analyze this feeling, it contains both the idea/desire and the power to realize this idea, as well as a plan/blueprint for how to do it. It is the unity of three principles, the manifestation of the Creator's light in man. That's how I understand it.

 

[akenu]

I don't care about his competence. In any case, only someone higher up and smarter can evaluate his competence. We can't even really understand the structure, so how can we evaluate it? But we can, of course, express our dissatisfaction, and we do so with pleasure. Why not? I very often and angrily argue with the Creator, and sometimes this even helps solve the problem. I write mental complaints, and they sound something like this: “Couldn't you have designed this crap differently, or at least explained how this crap of yours works? How am I supposed to make decisions if I don't understand the result? Are you kidding me? Your hands are out of your ass.” Well, that's how it happens. Yes, we certainly have the right to be angry. But if you think about it, the whole secret of Evil lies in Geburah, in this limiter that generates all pain. I don't know how I could create form if I didn't limit infinite abundance, in order to offer the Creator a solution to the problem of evil. Can you suggest something better?

So what exactly of your belief is related to Gnosticism?

The general idea of Gnosticism is that the perfect creator created the spiritual plane and then Demiurge created the physical reality and trapped the souls in the process of reincarnation until we can wiggle out through gnosis.

 

[Evotushon]

I haven't read the whole thread so I don't know if anyone else said this but I think God (or any god in that sense), defined as the metaphysical, omnipresent and omnipotent being, is just an interface similar to our psyche (conscious mind, subconscious mind, ...) that the All, intended in the Hermetical sense as that from which everything is created and in which everything is contained, has made to interact with our physical plane and connect it to the other planes (spiritual, mental). It is in this sense another observer that can act and think, but is still subject to the universal laws of the All.
This, combined with the Hermetic Laws (which can be read in any source from that movement, even in the Kybalion although it is not considered a 100% hermetic book), give a clear answer to the old question of "Si deus est, unde malum", which was always analysed from a rigid and obtuse standpoint, seeing God as the Ultimate Being but also as benevolent; St. Augustine for example came close to the answer, saying that Good is what God created and Evil is the absence of Good, aka non-Being, but this is controversial since it does indeed exist in the forms of pain, suffering, revenge, angst, etc. Free will is also clearly a bullshit answer that creates more problems than anything else. The All creates everything mentally without any goal or motive (that we can know of). We only know that it makes everything in the planes under itself follow laws It has created.
The other philosophical problems of an entity being the single creator of anything are also mitigated with the conception of the God as an interface of the All that has to follow rules both because it is in a lower plane than the All both physically and onthologically.

 

[坛中一瓢雪]

"I'm not very good at preaching or sharing grand philosophies, but for me, God has helped me turn so many things around. He saved me once again and gave me the strength to truly survive in this life.

I used to suffer from severe somatic symptoms, as well as severe spiritual and mental distress. I couldn't even consume chocolate or anything with caffeine. But with His help, everything has healed.

That period was truly agonizing. Constant dreams made it impossible to tell reality from hallucinations. Voices echoed from all around, and I couldn't figure out what they were. It wasn't until God reached out His hand that I finally found liberation.

Everything has gotten better now. At least right now, I am truly happy, and I have chosen to walk His path."

 

[YevheniiaM]

So what exactly of your belief is related to Gnosticism?

The general idea of Gnosticism is that the perfect creator created the spiritual plane and then Demiurge created the physical reality and trapped the souls in the process of reincarnation until we can wiggle out through gnosis.

It's difficult to explain such a vast topic in three words. I'll try, but it will be vague. Gnosis is the experience of one's own spirituality, in which a person gains knowledge of the Divine nature of things through PERSONAL experience. This is the core idea of Gnosticism, not that the Demiurge has locked us in a cage. The Demiurge has locked us in a cage—this is the level of perception from which the Gnostic path begins. Gnosticism believes that through this experience, a person understands their divine nature and is freed from suffering. And this is exactly it! Coming to an understanding of one's Divine nature is the path of gnosis and the path to liberation from suffering. Gnosis is not knowledge received from outside, but knowledge acquired in certain states of consciousness, such as illuminations or insights. The Evil Demiurge is the same Creator at lower levels of manifestation. And to "deal" not with him, but with the Creator, gnosis is necessary. Forgive me for being so vague. You perceive the world as a single whole and everything as facts, as if it were the same for everyone. But try thinking not in general terms, but based on the levels of perception of each individual, for example, your personal perception of reality. Spiritual growth is a ladder leading upward, but it is not located somewhere between Italy and France or in books; this ladder is in your perception of things. Gnosticism is a path from the level of "The Demiurge locked us in a cage" to the level of "I am God who locked himself in a cage." And the cage is a separate, lengthy topic for discussion.

 

[wicksofwires]

I'd thought 'god' is something who let people believe,pray and give oblation,every thing can be god.

But my dad was dead in 2025,a weird dream told my mom will close eyes in 2,16,2037 by natural end.
maybe this just a dream, a sorrow can't be say is more sorrow.

now i think human have soul and semsena,magic and angel is real.the only god is world's willing.no one leave to death
, complex society create the fate,everything have own "Tao". I think god is that truth we can be escape.

things can't be nice release always。

I don't really believe in any god. Not Yaweh or Allah or anyone from any pantheon. The world is full of invisible spirits and forces, but not quite gods.

 

[A101]

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