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Luciferian/Demonic Egregore conflict problem: The Commoner X The Elite

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The problem is with how "Lvcifer" got misinterpreted and how people use the name as more of a demonic or dark aspect, the elite "Luciferian" magic is the same magic everyone practices, it is using the mind and spirit to accomplish a goal, wether it is good or bad is up to how the individual uses it. The so called elites use it to try and control society where as cannonically in the bible "Lucifer" was never meant to be a proper name.

One could refer to it as the spirit in an individual and this is scattered through out the bible, in isaiah the spirit of the king failed him due to pride and he wasn't blaanced in his faith, in second peter is says when the lanterns dim and things get dark let the morning star rise in your heart, revelation 16 Christ calls himself the bright and shining morning star (purity of spirit), there is another verse where some is gifted with the morning star (which in this case would be an essence of peace, comfort, relief from fear or maybe someone gave the guy a shroom lol)
All the references to "Morning Star" used to say "Lucifer".
People have watered down what it actually means. if someone refers to lucifers fall it is likely a twisted way to say the soul uses the spirit to attach to the body and it is up to us to refine the spirit not through fear but clarity of mind, if you look at the meaning of Lucifers seal, (from the Grimoire Verum) it shows the connection of opposites, (male and female) balancing the chalice representing wisdom.
So to answer the question of the elites using Luciferian magic, it is just a term that got polluted to scare off or misguide people nothing to do with an external spirit but the spark within. Although I'm sure people have used it to create an egregore but that is not the true meaning.

An interesting aside, Rosicrucian's consider those who focus too much on inner spirit and deny the physical world as "Luciferian" whereas those that are materialistc which the elites try to turn society to is "Ahrimanic" which weakens our spirit thus giving them power to control us through fear, and divide and conquer techniques. This is why discernment is said to be so important to be able to balance the 2 of spirit and body, purpose and wisdom. Work diligently as a devotion to your craft, for the love of your highest Will and you can achieve great things.
Light, Spirit and Body balance.
 

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There are (supposedly) two forms of Luciferianism. So let’s try a thought experiment on that.

One, nearing the biblical fable or the poetic, close to the Paradise Lost mythos, is practiced by the financial elite, along with doctrines and traditions that exists since the dawn of civilization. The "Luciferians" mentioned when you watch a video of some human traffic victim disclosing details about their aggressors, usually big pictures from society, politicians, bankers, etc. Lucifer taken as the Lord of this World, the Lord of the Armies of Hell, the light bringer who favors their chosen initiates, descending from specific ancient bloodlines. The liberator who liberates only their select group of sickos, granting them ridiculous amounts of power over others, which translates into direct personal freedom for them. One might say it's working, since those who are deeply involved in such practices within those societies, are the ones who have actual unlimited power over the collective, and therefore freedom, at least in this world. Those initiates are the ones who builds altars of pure gold, fueling them with the blood and flesh of countless sacrifices, powered by a complex and ancient social structure built to feed this specific egregore. They spend enormous amounts of resources on their sacrifices, have complete access to secret knowledge, they pay skilled sorcerers and magicians handsomely, just to keep the flame alive. They make collective sex rituals of epic proportions, under the undying symbols of their deities. So, if the elites are actually involved in such cults, cults of the primitive gods, where deities such as Baal and/or Moloch are glorified under the aegis of "Lucifer" (even if mistakenly)...a Lucifer seen as a villainous tyrant, power hungry beast, general of infernal armies that favors the ones who benefits them the most, the ones who are willing to abandon everything in exchange of material power, regardless of morality, purity of intention or ethics, or simply those of a specific genetic ancestry. That is to say, Lucifer seen as what Christians would call Satan or the Devil, revered as the vengeful fallen angel, the sadistic, power hungry, bestial force seething in the depths of Hell, and ultimately, full of hatred against all of God's creation, specially human beings. Even if this isn't accurate in the concept of most of the LHP writers (at least those who actually publishes something to the public), let's suppose for a moment that there are endless resources being poured on this specific egregore for centuries.

The other one, as you might suspect, is the modern Luciferianism. The one closer to the Michael W. Ford practical approach, to the philosophy of the Thelema, to Chaos Magick and contemporary esoteric "psychonautic", witchcraft and neo-paganism, one which incorporates Gnostic values such as overcoming the illusions, powering knowledge-seeking habits and breaking the chains of the collective over the individual and so forth, to the Hermetic principles of alchemy and archetypes, practices that you could picture a "commoner" getting involved with. Not the commoner in terms of mental disposition, I'm not referring to the normie, but simply people who are not the financial elite of the world. Workers, students, small business owners, et cetera. Even "pure" practitioners, people who devote their lives to the practice, but are inevitably mediocre in terms of material wealth. If the purpose of such practice is to reach enlightenment, to waken their hidden potential, and, aligned with demonic practices (through ceremonial Goetia or modern Demonolatry practices) to attain certain goals, objectively or subjectively. Or, we could mention other forms of magic, even some sorts of shamanism, relying on the name and sigil of Lucifer as a representative of certain spiritual virtues, or aspects of the Soul. Lucifer seen as the initiator of the individual practitioner, who awakens the inner black flame of the magician and guides them through their alchemical path of inner transformation. The deity or archetype that illuminates the path of the psyche to beyond the scales of cosmic rule, the amoral spiritual rebel to be incorporated by the practitioner. Picture a guy who works for some company for mediocre wage. This guy is self initiated, or was initiated in some Crowley-inspired esoteric order when he was in college. He keeps his altar/space in constant check, feeds the egregore of a specific demon/deity, practices ceremonial magick regularly (either to "clock in" or with strong intentional purpose), and so forth. He keeps the flame alive, he wants to escape the rat race at all costs in order to fully dedicate themselves to their cause, whatever it may be. So you see a lot of strong will and intention here. But you don't see palpable results. You see surges of inspiration here and there, once in a while, but not any verifiable favor granted in terms of contingency. On the contrary, he experiences increasingly complex challenges confronting the guy in day-to-day life, which he takes as tests (much like the common religious people experiences earthly life). And so he takes this path forward, sometimes not even expecting significant improvements at all.

The big question(s) is(are): could the will and intention of the individual practitioner possibly overpower the intensity of the elite practice, if interests collide (they essentially do)? Would the "purity" of purpose really make a difference in this, since the demons or even Lucifer are often seen as amoral forces? What if the gods favorites are the ones in power, even for the Promethean egregores, while we're all fooling ourselves, thinking they would help enable our hidden powers to move forward and attain relative independence (which is unacceptable to the elite, who also practices magic, allegedly within the same sigils, aegis and doctrines as we do, but objectively, materially better in terms of form, consistency and quality of offerings)? Yeah, I do believe that any objective-oriented practice done by a common citizen in the world will necessarily, without any doubt, would clash with any Matrix/Prison oriented goals of the external world, except if the magician's purpose is to become a smooth brained cattle, smartphone wageslave with nowhere to go, with not an ounce of land to even die on top of. One could say that the elite are not actually Luciferians, that they actually worship Saturn and so forth, but the problem stands. What about the independent practitioner that devoted his/her life to the Cult of Saturn? What about this individual's purposes in contrast to the purposes of the elite who works over the collective of which the practitioner is merely a part of?
Imagine this scenario...every demon, entity or divinity would be "down for action" if huge amounts of energy offered is involved. So they would certainly benefit those corrupted parties and ditch any sort of true esoteric valued work coming from a broke blue-collar worker that can't even afford to light a pretty candle everyday in his altar, even if maintaining strong will and a directed mind. So, if Lucifer and the demons under him, within this mythos, are all somewhat affordable and amoral, they would benefit these elites much more than they could benefit a lonely practitioner, even if their practices are not conceptually or philosophically "on point". Yeah, they could be calling the Demiurge/False god "Lucifer", just like monotheists calls the Demiurge their "God". They could just be involved in a practice that has nothing to do with Lucifer in any sense. But you get my drift...if they are feeding, enpowering and declaring such names, such sigils, such egregores, the same ones that common practitioners also worship or seek to integrate psychically with very limited time and resources...then I guess the commoner (we) have a big problem with any sorts of magical practice. Because interests would never be aligned. It's the same problem with money magic. You're always clashing with bigger centers of power using the same names, the same symbols, the same archetypes, to attract a pity amount of prosperity that originates from a source controlled by the elites...also through magic, not to mention an extremely resourceful and complex apparatus beyond the rituals.
Are the bigger collective centers of power ruining our own personal centers of power? My guess is yes. And if I'm not wrong, is there a solution to this? Or would be better for the commoner to just appeal to another force, or to try and integrate themselves with another type of archetype? To align ourselves with frequencies of vibration that those of the elite has no access to (which is unlikely)? One could say that the elites are being fooled by other types of entities, malevolent, tricky ones they can't even comprehend...then why are them so favored, why can they get away with anything, why can they have such material freedom and why do they keep practicing it regardless of what any theory or esoteric knowledge would prescribe?

An intriguing topic, one that I've been thinking about ever since I became aware of such things. I get the sense that whatever entity the world's elite commune with is something much more obscure than Lucifer himself. Perhaps it will be revealed in time as they become more emboldened, but they are not stupid and are likely to keep any sources of power they have under very tight wraps. I do have a hunch that whatever system they use is based on sacrifice of the innocent, the more pure the offering and the more profane the defilement, the greater the power given to them. This world is inverted in nature, and I think they know that and how to exploit that duality in their favor.

If I had to guess, the sacrifice of the innocent was how they attained all that power, and the misery of the masses is how they keep it. The latter one being true both practically and spiritually. Gods of old were always patrons of the elite, the kings, priests, and their families- no one else. An ancient farmer could never hope to attain the favor of Jupiter or Amun. I'd be far more inclined to think that the elite of this world mingle with gods, as they always have, than with demons.
 

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I want to know the two type of luciferian can you inform book or pdfs more explained about those two types
 

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I want to know the two type of luciferian can you inform book or pdfs more explained about those two types
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