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Magicians with ADHD: a thread

Cassandra

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In my case it's mostly when it comes to meditation that I end up having issues, which is kinda funny since I can daydream so vivdly and even when doing something else.

I don't know how this works.
Also, despite actually loving to find scholar-type materials about magic and etc., usually I don't have the attention span necessary to read it all if the authors use hard words or speak a lot before getting to the point.

No problem when they're direct and talk a lot, just when they beat around the bush a lot.


When I "get in the zone" during my daydreams I get massive boosts of energy(while also spending it physically so I end up calm) and when it comes to the physical side of things(in general and for magic as well), it's as if I can actually focus better through physical acts(for example, even though I can daydream just fine normally, if I start walking or running it's like getting into an altered state to me).

Both body and mind finally united.


Not sure I understood the question or know my "spikes".



"It" bring the spikes?

When I was a kid, but they never seemed to work with me so I stopped.If I do physical activities I can somewhat manage it, maybe it's why acting works for me too as that is a mental activity that demands a lot from your body.

With magic or with ADHD?
Forget meditation, those daydreams are the essence of manifesting! They are (I believe) what meditating is all about!

I have never been able to 'empty my mind of thoughts'. I think maybe medication can help with that, according to people at my local ADHD support group, but why bother, when it's so useful for magic!
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I find that I primarily accomodate by utilizing pathworking and meditation and visualization, t's really hard for me to have the motivation a lot of the times to gather up all of the rituals.

I take the stimulants for dual depression and ADHD, but they probably negatively impact my Magickal work because while they do help with the depression, I abuse them and they are an attachment I have to shed. My doctor knows I abuse them and take more than prescribed and she increased the amount I'm allowed ro take when I told her.

Sometimes my mind really wants to fit the pieces together like a puzzle and understand how things fit together, and it leads me into some really weird places trying to, which I can't really help.
Yes! Daydreaming takes on a whole new meaning when you realise visualisation is a big part of actual magic. I think the rituals are for those who don't have this natural ability, for me, simple prayers have always been enough.
 
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I have adhd and its been a rollarcoaster ride but since I was child,I would always win chess trophies(hear me out;)). I never read books on chess, i was never formally trained but I would murder opponents for breakfast. I have made some opponents quit before the game unfolded and that's due to strong will and what i was visualizing(they felt my mental force:unsure:).

I was always drawn to occult studies which is interesting but now more than ever, I had known along time ago that meds role in this matrix tends to destroy or slow down certain qualities we possess rather than help us control what we have. I love how one person spoke about the hyperfocus effect because that is one of our powers. People would ask me how do I stay focus with ADHD in a chess game. I would tell them I'm here to Win(fun times:ROFLMAO:) but looking back, i was super passionate about it, I had a strong Will which is crucial in what we perceive to be magick.

I think,understanding how the to trick your brain into loving(heart chakra) something through visualization and meditation. Seeing your ADHD as a super power rather than a curse will go along way not just in life but also in Magick but you really have to know thyself.

This is my opinion as a guy who got diagnosed with 30 mg of ritalin since grade 3.what I know is ,others may have taken more and may have different experience to what I have experienced.
Hope it was helpful

PS- I don't use meds anymore.
 

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ADHD is sort of feeling like an alien in a world of binary, people with adhd tend to (imo) learn more through the senses (phenomenalism) and this all is intuition based, if you apply your will and mind it helps focus all the little things you pick up subconsciously. It’s really quite amazing when you are able to calm the mind and focus on your intuition and apply that focus on the goal your higher self is pointing you towards, you will it to be and you have little skills to make it happen.
belief is a tool and adhd helps you shift your perception and be in tune with others perspectives.
But only when learned to wield it in a conscious and observing way.
 

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Quite a few people with ADHD on the forums, and I always end up commenting on it in other threads.

Maybe we could have a thread just for this topic?

Some prompts:
  • How does this make magic/mysticism/etc harder for you?
  • On the other hand, what strengths does ADHD bring? David Shoemaker says the process of invoking your HGA will eventually bring in every single part of you and every tool you have - so that's going to include ADHD. When I go into hyperfocus, I can read and absorb a huge amount of material, for eg.
  • ADHD people are often "spiky" - they are great at some stuff and terrible at other stuff, rather than being average-competent across the board. (So a graph of their abilities would be spiky angles, not a rolling curve across the centre). What are your magical spikes
  • Do you have any magical techniques for managing it or working with it?
  • Do you take meds? If yes, have you noticed any interactions with your magical practice, positive or negative?
  • IDK, any other crossover topics?
Please make a separate thread if you're wanting to say that:
  • ADHD isn't real or is overdiagnosed
  • ADHD is caused by... anything. Separate conversation.
  • Have you tried....? any diet or non-magical advice that could be found with a google search. Trust that we've already googled it.

If you don't have ADHD, but you have similar executive function struggles, feel free to contribute though. Like, every parent with a kid under 2 basically has circumstantial ADHD due to lack of sleep.
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One thing i mentioned in a recent post was that the idea of making habits as small as possible (aka "Atomic Habits") had never worked for me, because it's not exciting.

Counter to all the advice, I am far more likely to follow through on something big, complicated and demanding, because I get excited and motivated about that, which gives me the brain chemicals required to do the job. Doing Helios Unbound, a theoretically huge project that people wouldn't recommend to a person with ADHD, is EASIER for me than just building up a little daily habit, because the size and challenge of it motivates me. (Also, the magic changes every week or month, so it allows for novelty within a structure of consistency.)

The biggest secret to all of this, IMO, is know thyself. How does my brain ACTUALLY work, not how i think it should it work. And then do what works for your brain, even if it seems silly or weird or childish or like you "shouldn't need it". Even a lot of ADHD advice is only a good fit for like half of ADHD people. It really is something you have to hack out for yourself imo.
Alot of the mind control techniques from Peter j Carroll helped me a little with my ADHD
 

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I just recently started taking meds for ADHD and anxiety, I think it's not so good for my practice because it kind of smooths the world out, gets rid of the corners that I usually trip/obsess on. On the other hand, if I need an extra burst of creativity/mystical madness... Just "accidentally" skip meds and the craziness starts again, not sure if it's one of my mental issues in particular or a combination of them.
 
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