[Opinion] Magick in a nutshell

[Wolfmage13]

What do you most commonly use magick for? I help friends with money and love magick and for myself? Strength, confidence and courage to the point of being utterly fearless. Ive never used baneful magick and although I don't have anything against (some just deserve to get hexed). I prefer using my fists when teaching someone a lesson, usually I lose. Takes a long time to beat me senseless though. Right, on to my very unpopular opion. So, all magick really is. Is self help therapy, but with frills and fuss. Now I know all the vocalisations and somatics and ingredients may be a way to train and run mental attunement programs in your psyche to get you into the 'vibe' necessary to cause change in your reality. And as much as I love Hermeticism and magick and being able cause these changes, it's a shite load of homework, about 3000 years worth, just so I can better myself. Having said that, Cernunnos has helped me a great deal also. Now bear in mind I haven't yet summoned demons or called upon angels or traversed the planes, astrally or otherwise. So for now Im breaking it down to to base elements 'frills and fuss'.
What say you?

 

[Zelator2148]

I don't use ceremonial magic much any more, although I did a fair amount of LBRP (banishing) and talismanic work back in the '80s. Seems to me that once we get past the satisfaction of "causing change to occur in conformity to Will," what's left is mostly doing stuff to prove to ourselves we can do it. (I'm not religious so I don't have much interest in angels, and I've never summoned a demon either because I never had a need to). Invocation (bringing the power within) seems to make more sense than evocation (summoning entities to do our bidding). I still do some Astral Plan exploration as a side project to my primary interest in divination, which I consider "practical mysticism."

 

[Wolfmage13]

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I don't use ceremonial magic much any more, although I did a fair amount of LBRP (banishing) and talismanic work back in the '80s. Seems to me that once we get past the satisfaction of "causing change to occur in conformity to Will," what's left is mostly doing stuff to prove to ourselves we can do it. (I'm not religious so I don't have much interest in angels, and I've never summoned a demon either because I never had a need to). Invocation (bringing the power within) seems to make more sense than evocation (summoning entities to do our bidding). I still do some Astral Plan exploration as a side project to my primary interest in divination, which I consider "practical mysticism."

Oh I just can't wait to bully demons in into servitude and charm angels into getting shit done for me by turning on my AWESOME charisma. Anyway... When one gets bored thats when you either need to start touching yourself or get someone else to do it for you. What I'm saying is ... SEX.... MAGICK... Bruh! That's what what these Hermetic dweebs are KNOWN for. Boning and moaning for mana and mojo. Damn I gonna get 11 dudes to bang me, then transmute all that sperm into power for a 12th dude who's gonna drink it straight from my body. And then do me nice and slow after. I just busy with the invocations at the moment and me struggling a bit. I'll be doing the working in the hopes Asmodeus will hear me and help me out channeling all that raw bareback power. Get it wrong and I may explode spectacularly if In not careful but with him at my back it should work. Ok that's a joke, the exploding part, but you get what I mean. Getting the participants is easy. It's designing the magic, the direction and flow of energy, and channeling all that power that's hard. But it's also fun... SO MUCH FUN! Just imagine me blowing up in a great cloud of glitter and rainbows if I do FAK it up
So Wish me luck for when I F**k! And hopefully not F**I it all up!

 

[Zelator2148]

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Oh I just can't wait to bully demons in into servitude and charm angels into getting shit done for me by turning on my AWESOME charisma. Anyway... When one gets bored thats when you either need to start touching yourself or get someone else to do it for you. What I'm saying is ... SEX.... MAGICK... Bruh! That's what what these Hermetic dweebs are KNOWN for. Boning and moaning for mana and mojo. Damn I gonna get 11 dudes to bang me, then transmute all that sperm into power for a 12th dude who's gonna drink it straight from my body. And then do me nice and slow after. I just busy with the invocations at the moment and me struggling a bit. I'll be doing the working in the hopes Asmodeus will hear me and help me out channeling all that raw bareback power. Get it wrong and I may explode spectacularly if In not careful but with him at my back it should work. Ok that's a joke, the exploding part, but you get what I mean. Getting the participants is easy. It's designing the magic, the direction and flow of energy, and channeling all that power that's hard. But it's also fun... SO MUCH FUN! Just imagine me blowing up in a great cloud of glitter and rainbows if I do FAK it up
So Wish me luck for when I F**k! And hopefully not F**I it all up!

And just when I thought you were interested in a serious discussion . . .

 

[Wolfmage13]

And just when I thought you were interested in a serious discussion . . .

I'm sorry In just in mood today, Ill be more serious tommorow I promise. To be honest id like to know, since you abandoned Hermeticism while it was still in its infancy with regards to you. Did you seek out wisdom and power from any other magick path or paths? If so which ones?

 

[Zelator2148]

I'm sorry In just in mood today, Ill be more serious tommorow I promise. To be honest id like to know, since you abandoned Hermeticism while it was still in its infancy with regards to you. Did you seek out wisdom and power from any other magick path or paths? If so which ones?

Well, I didn't abandon Hermeticism, just the practice of ceremonial magic in its ritual form in my late 30s. I've stayed with Hermetic Qabalism from a philosophical perspective all those years since as well as practicing several types of divination, some of it performed professionally. Ever since Covid I spend most of my time and effort blogging about esoteric subjects.

 

[nunaphael]

I swear I'm not trying to be nitpicky, but I actually don't like the concept of "using" magic very much. I think of it more like "helping" it, because to me, magick isn't a "tool" any more than like, say, friendship is a "tool". I imagine magick itself, the thing-in-itself that we refer to whenever we even use that word in a sentence, whatever we think it means, whatever it is to us, and whatever it actually is - is a being, an entity, and it has volition, and it has independence and dreams, and there is a conversation that one could have with "magick" as if it were a god you could speak directly to and ask it about itself. You form an intimate relationship with it and it becomes your ally and actually desires to work with you as much as you desire to work with it.

 

[Wolfmage13]

Well, I didn't abandon Hermeticism, just the practice of ceremonial magic in its ritual form in my late 30s. I've stayed with Hermetic Qabalism from a philosophical perspective all those years since as well as practicing several types of divination, some of it performed professionally. Ever since Covid I spend most of my time and effort blogging about esoteric subjects.

I just read your intro post, so you are quite the diviner. Is there any particular reason or is the money good. My husband is a Norse Shaman Runeworker and skilled in Galdr and Seidr also. In Seidr there is an aspect of prophecy to some of it. But he is so knowledgeable about so many other paths. I'd like to be more like him. It's funny I only STARTED with High Magick when I hit my 30s (even though I bought my first book on Hermeticism when I was 16. I was scared I would be branded a Satanist by family and friends back then it was the satanic panic era). Anyway it's been slow going. I live in Africa and never even met another Hermetic mage. So no mentor or teacher just 3000 years worth of bloody homework. So far all I do is love and money magick for friends. And personally I seek power for myself. I want to be strong, and confident and have courage, more than my share. Ugh its So many planets, dates, times, colours, stones, sigils,, seals and blooming pentacles.
Still, the first time I ever saw a Vegvisr I knew I'd seen it somewhere before and went digging. I belonged to An Asatru group and To cut a long story short, with my fact finding and interviewing Icelandic academics I debunked the authenticity of the Vegvisr as having it roots in Solomonic magick. There was a HUGE schism and uproar in the group and half left. Those that clung to its sacred Nordicness all got mad and buggered off. People can be so dumb. Even faced with evidence irrefutable evidence from many sources they still cling to things. Every time I see a big strong Viking looking dude with a Vegvisr tattoo I want to laugh my arse off and my husband has to shut me up coz I DO get into trouble alot. So I guess I'm adept at pattern recognition and energy transference. I spontaneously manifest random shit alot otherwise. But that's bout it.