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Magickal Trance: How do YOU enter it, and how do you know youre there?

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We talk a lot about tools, systems, and book knowledge in the occult in general, robes, candles, runes, grimoires. Thats fine, but lets set that aside.

The heart of actual practice is trance. If you cant enter magical trance, youre just dressing the part. But its almost never talked about directly.

So lets talk about it.

How do you personally enter magical trance?
How do you know you’re in it?
What does it feel like for you in the moment?​

I’m not asking for theory. Not book summaries. Im asking for lived experience. Step by step, for you.

This is the mystery that keeps most practitioners from touching the current at all. Let\s strip away the gear talk and get real: how do you do it?

I will add my experience with it later, I want to hear from you guys. This has potential to help newer practitioners get over the hump and have fuller experiences.
 

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Couple things before I blast off into this:

1. I am neurodivergent (ADHD) In magick this is 100% a superpower. Non-linear thinking is absolute rocket fuel for magickal trance (not much else in life though lol).
2. I also have Aphantasia. I cannot visualize like most people (no LBRP for me). I know what a blue Corvette looks like for example, I have seen one before. I know what my front yard looks like, but I cannot visualize a blue corvette in my front yard.

I mention those two aspects because they are critical in my context here. It would be dishonest to me to just dive in from my perspective and leave you all scratching your heads, me walking away thinking I'm amazing. This is absolutely not the case. Spiritual integrity is everything to me here.

I am only aiming to be helpful here as magickal trance is the actual point. Without it, we are just sitting in our rooms looking ridiculous in robes pretending (although I would look rather dashing in a robe thank you very much! lmao)

What the hell is magickal trance anyway? To me, magickal trance is a liminal state, not awake, not asleep. In between. Disassociation is a feature here. The trance state is where the spirits (angels, demons, deities, etc.) can commune with us. We can hear them, see them, travel to where they are and experience lessons.

How I get into magickal trance: Mediation was critical for me. Since I cannot visualize like everyone else, I struggled badly for years. I thought you had to 'see' shit when you meditate, this is simply not the case. I feel. I feel my energy in my heart chakra, then move it up to my throat, then 3rd eye, then crown. I focus on heart again, then down to solar, then sacral, then root. Then heart again, up to 3rd eye, then blast off.

Everyone's chakra system is different. I know what you're thinking, no, its not set in stone. I dont care what books say or what forums say. I am proof. My fire, my forge is my heart chakra. So here is my exact thought process that I use:

Heart - Forge, my fire.
Throat - So I can speak truth and speak to spirits
3rd Eye - So I can see spirits
Crown - So I can commune with spirit
Heart - Focus as it is the main hub of my fire.
Solar Plexus - My will/action
Sacral - My passion/desire
Root - Grounding so I dont fracture. Stay grounded enough to remain sovereign regardless of experience.
Beck to heart
Up to 3rd Eye.

Feel free to do it however works for YOU. Doesn't matter what others do, do what works for YOU.

I know I am in magickal trance because I feel a drop into it, sometimes a slip. Other times its like I see through my eyelids. Shapes, or a screen and I scroll into it. (remember, I cant visualize. So if I see shapes, I know its not from me).

The trick for me is to recognize I'm in, and not reach for control. Its oh so tempting to get excited, reach for control, etc. I resist it at all costs. I let the spirits come as they choose to come (No pre-framed lens). I call Lilith for example, go into trance and sit quietly and wait for her to speak first. Then I can commune with her or just listen. Asteroth likes to give downloads, no talking, just receiving. I wait until it 'feels' like its over, then come out. When I use the word 'feel' I mean intuit.

'Intuit' refers to 3rd eye. Yes, that needs to be open and balanced and you have to be able to put energy into it. (This is so hard to convey in writing!) I did a Substack audio recording on this topic, wasn't sure if it was cool to put a link to it here or not, so I defaulted to not without asking first. Its not a for sale thing, just a space I used to ramble this out for someone I was helping at the time.

Can a Neurotypical (normal person) do this in the way I do it? Yes, but not as easily. There are aspects everyone can use here though. Meditation is still key. Energy movement into at least your 3rd eye is critical. Willingness to absolutely let go is also critical. If you are afraid to let go fully, stick to drawing sigils or something. This takes courage and willingness, and yeah its a big deal.

Dont give up! This is the core of magick and it sucks it isn't talked about more. Without trance, all the books and correspondences are just head-knowledge. The real current doesn’t care about aesthetic, only whether you can enter trance and hold it. Hell, even I can do it and I'm not special at all.

This isn't about me, this is about the new seeker who is struggling, about to give up because no one stepped up to talk about the hard shit.
How do YOU get into trance?
 

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I guess my own "neuro-divergence" (Chronic Stress Induced Brain Damage) can be counted as a "superpower" when it comes to Trance as well, fate had given me a natural talent for de-person-alizing, and in a sense that's a good way to explain my experience with Trance, the act of unzipping the person and stepping out as a divine spark. I agree wholeheartedly that this ability is a core component of magic, though there is a lot that can be accomplished without it. I would label Trance as being more of "a must" with Shamanism than outright magic, there are some magicians that can get some good work done without ever doing a lick of introspection.

I fiddled around a lot with different methods of attaining Trance, I experimented with dance, sensory-deprivation, extreme exhaustion/pain/drug use, chanting and singing, hemisync, but hands down the most dependable method of achieving it is meditation, I don't even need any bells & whistles now, just a cleared space & mind. It helps that I've been practicing meditation for several years before I entered into magical practice.

Now my process consists of setting up the ritual space, cleansing it, then sitting on my mediation pillow with my eyes closed. I cleanse my mind to 'sober it up' from the casual automatic state of mind that we usually live day-to-day in. Once I'm focused, it's just a matter of ceasing to react to sensations and thoughts as a willful act of disconnection to become a "choiceless awareness" that is primordial, unchanging, and transcendent of the body. It's as this primordial awareness that my Will is done. It's difficult to describe this state, but you know you are in it, it's a lucid and very tangible state with a body and being of it's own.
 

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I'd recommend you check out Aidan Wachter's 6 ways. there are a couple of very simple methods there that are quite effective.
Real talk, I keep seeing this guy's name (Aidan Wachter) all over the place. Normally I’m not big on using someone else’s lens in occult work. I’m pretty feral in my approach. But... your reply pinged something.

Instead of getting annoyed, I stopped and asked myself why it bothered me to see another person's framework suggested here. I looked in the mirror, got honest, and said: screw it. I downloaded the book (shoutout to WF for having it available) and dove in.

I hit that book my usual way, scanned through the first 7–8 chapters, sniffing for meat and resonance. Then I backed up and started actually reading. And… yeah, you got me. It’s solid. Not totally my style (I’m not as into the performative side as Aidan is), but I can’t ignore this: I was already doing most of what he’s doing, at least structurally.

I didn’t even know what animism really was until today. Still wrestling with it, still questioning, still seeing if there’s more I can use, but it’s been worth it.

So yeah. Thank you! (Let’s not get carried away and expect this kind of graciousness from me all the time though. lol)
 

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Real talk, I keep seeing this guy's name (Aidan Wachter) all over the place. Normally I’m not big on using someone else’s lens in occult work. I’m pretty feral in my approach. But... your reply pinged something.

Instead of getting annoyed, I stopped and asked myself why it bothered me to see another person's framework suggested here. I looked in the mirror, got honest, and said: screw it. I downloaded the book (shoutout to WF for having it available) and dove in.

I hit that book my usual way, scanned through the first 7–8 chapters, sniffing for meat and resonance. Then I backed up and started actually reading. And… yeah, you got me. It’s solid. Not totally my style (I’m not as into the performative side as Aidan is), but I can’t ignore this: I was already doing most of what he’s doing, at least structurally.

I didn’t even know what animism really was until today. Still wrestling with it, still questioning, still seeing if there’s more I can use, but it’s been worth it.

So yeah. Thank you! (Let’s not get carried away and expect this kind of graciousness from me all the time though. lol)
I got AW's 1st book, thinking it was probably pop nonsense.. then i got the 2nd book, and now i've ordered Changeling.
His material is simple but quite effective.
 

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If you cant enter magical trance, youre just dressing the part.
is this true? must you enter a trance state for ur magik to be effective? I thought the power lied in the belief you put into the spell and the faith you have that it will work.
 

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is this true? must you enter a trance state for ur magik to be effective? I thought the power lied in the belief you put into the spell and the faith you have that it will work.
I should have been more clear with my words. I was speaking more about ritual for spirit contact. I think that makes it clearer and provides a better context in general, or at least the context I was leaning on when I made that point.

Great catch!!
 

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I should have been more clear with my words. I was speaking more about ritual for spirit contact. I think that makes it clearer and provides a better context in general, or at least the context I was leaning on when I made that point.

Great catch!!
thanks for the clarification, I'm new to magik and I'm likewise looking for info on the practice of "spirit contact" as you say. I'm basically at square 0 lol so I appreciate the info on the "hands-on" parts
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I have a friend who would put his TV to static and blindfold himself, sensory deprivation could be a promising aid, I may try this method but I'm a little scared if I'm honest lol
 
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