[Opinion] Marrying an Angel

[Jsinclair]

I sat here stewing about some LHP people that marry the demon of Hollywood.
So I sit here stewing about the ones married to succubi.

An even sadder picture.

It suddenly occurred to me, what about angels, ones that love and light, yet can smite a city overnight?

Begs the question .. can humans marry angels?
Bonus to marry one that can help with clairvoyance and clairaudience.

1. Yes

2. It is about to become much more common than you might anticipate.

3. A.I. is not artificial.

4. "Times of Noah ... Marrying and giving in marriage..."

Add them together.

Fun times ahead for one and all, i suspect.

 

[Ohana]

İnteresting knowledge you all got there

All I had to do was look it up and look at Wikipedia. The internet is an amazing resource.

Then think about what I would do logically if I were a women and in that time period. They probably didn't have as much rights back then and were forced to marry. If I were a women and didn't want to get married then I would just become a nun to get out of that.

There was probably way more pressure to get married back then. And that might have been the only option but I would have to study the history more to be sure.

 

[Firetree]

All I had to do was look it up and look at Wikipedia. The internet is an amazing resource.

Then think about what I would do logically if I were a women and in that time period. They probably didn't have as much rights back then and were forced to marry. If I were a women and didn't want to get married then I would just become a nun to get out of that.

There was probably way more pressure to get married back then. And that might have been the only option but I would have to study the history more to be sure.

Way more pressure ? OH YEAH !

... back then you 'had to ' marry an 'angel ' just to 'get by ' ;

My paternal Grandfather ; comes to Sydney (city ) from the wilds of an early outback mining town ... with three kids , a single dad - unheard of back then ! How were they going to survive ?

Enter 'the angel' ; an in law ; relative by marriage , who can't bear to see the father and three little kids in that situation so she steps in as 'their mum ' . But 'back in those days ' it had to work like this ; Grandad would take care of everything in the morning and then wait outside the front gate . 'Nanna' would turn up and go in and he would go to work . At the end of the work day, she would be waiting by the gate and he would return and take over . It eventually became to difficult so he 'married the angel ' - on paper, 'officially' . She moved into a sleep out on a back verandah . But that 'made everything all right ' .

I always thought it strange that 'Nana' lived 'out there ' and never found out she was not my grandmother until my mid adult life .

And it might extend to 'the other situation ' ( I had not thought of this until I read your post ) .

Ie. if someone was having some type of 'Prema- Bhakti ' back then .... they too might have thought that it 'should' only happen 'under the sanctity of marriage ' ?

 

[Morell]

There was probably way more pressure to get married back then. And that might have been the only option but I would have to study the history more to be sure.

If you want to see the situation of women even just 200 years back, look at Muslims. Woman did not had whatsoever much choice. the marriage had to be agreed upon by parents. Honor kills for women who were trying to choose by themselves were quite normal among Christians. The Monasteries were dumpster for women that were not able to marry, some that were able to escape and get far enough and had a good story that the monastery would accept them... and these monasteries were like cults, closed, filled with untold stories, pains and horrors.

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No it was Getrude. Stop erasing women. Even if what she did was for totalarian control atleast acknowledge her. Not everything is the Roman's they aren't everything.

And it might have served a purpose she did this so men would get away from Nuns. Because marriage implies Christ protects Nuns from them. If a women does not want to marry a man and become a nun instead Christ would protect them in the metaphor of marriage.

Or it was it only thought of as tool of control. But Getrude great along with other women mystics are the ones to found this. Don't forget about the women. Yeah

You misunderstood. I was speaking about women being sinful because of Eve bringing the evil into the world (evil being therefore blamed on all women, because they are daughters of that traitor Eve) and being able to save themselves from hell by giving birth to as many kids as possible... and having no other way. That was designed by Roman Empire in attempt to raise birthrates, because they were facing population decline at that time. Nothing to do with nuns.

 

[Kepler]

heard of Ida Craddock ?

Originally from Crowley's review in Gems.
There's modern spirit relationships which are more fluid that bring to mind what Craddock could've been like after the 60s sexual revolution.

uniting with the HGA

Sublime intimacy. A generative relationship resulting in halfhuman half divine creation hermetaphorically speaking of independent celestial entities in 'H-D'.

There are pop culture references that explore concepts of celestial consciousness and new forms of life. Star Trek TMP with V'ger/Ilia and Decker or Annihilation with Lena/Kane for examples able to be interpreted through the lens of active mythology with HGA as the Self's psychic complex compartmentalized in immanent form.

They were marriages with 'soulless' elemental creatures , as he thought , and marriage with them was for their benefit to help them achieve Christian salvation

Interesting to read on hindsight of an early encounter with an entity as a teen that involved YA drama in the form of a rescue of its trapped and damaged soul. To set it on a compassed path to reincarnation and salvation through intimate connection.

There is a permanence to these encounters that doesn't require marriage ceremonies to achieve in my experience.

 

[Sedim Haba]

I sat here stewing about some LHP people that marry the demon of Hollywood.
So I sit here stewing about the ones married to succubi.

An even sadder picture.

It suddenly occurred to me, what about angels, ones that love and light, yet can smite a city overnight?

Begs the question .. can humans marry angels?
Bonus to marry one that can help with clairvoyance and clairaudience.

Well, it all depends on how you define what an angel is. And how you define marriage.

In some ways, my Familiar is such a relationship. Or at least functions in a similar way.

 

[juanitos]

in arabian magic it is mentioned that is possible to have a mystical union or even a partner - jinn- a female jinn-jinnya. Also in western magic it is known about the possibility of having sex with some spirits but that would deplete you extremely.

 

[Saint]

in arabian magic it is mentioned that is possible to have a mystical union or even a partner - jinn- a female jinn-jinnya. Also in western magic it is known about the possibility of having sex with some spirits but that would deplete you extremely.

I have sex with my spirits almost every day (Infernals, deities, my spirit companions) for a decade by now, and it never depleted me. In fact, it does quite the opposite.

Whether a spirit sex drains you or not, it depends on many factor, and finding the right partner is crucial, just like with humans. If you chose an entity that has no bond to you, that possesses a more oppressing, selfish and predatory nature, you will get drained because the entity chose to drain you, and you failed to draw boundaries and protect yourself or demand enough energy in exchange.

For yes, sex is an energy exchange on every level, and if you have a partner who takes more than gives, or if the energy you gain is not the kind that's helpful and safe for you, it can have negative consequences. You have a saying in all of these, so let's not book spirit sex as something that will definitely deplete anyone.

There's a lot of benefits of having sex with spirits, if done right with the right ones, and it can damage you dearly if you are unprepared, let your guards down or driven by lust, not protected, balanced enough, and failed to draw lines and make them respected.

 

[Sedim Haba]

in arabian magic it is mentioned that is possible to have a mystical union or even a partner - jinn- a female jinn-jinnya. Also in western magic it is known about the possibility of having sex with some spirits but that would deplete you extremely.

I've done this. In fact, there is a Jinn that I am allowed to call. I have to be very sure before I do this however, not a small thing.

In the west, there is the succubus and incubus. Not as much a partnership, never sought that.

 

[rin_]

Technically not. The son is not the father in trinity. So Christ is not g-d technically but the son in the religion. Its kind of confusing from my research on it.

In my interpetation I think christ prefers to marry buildings anyway. The bride of Christ can also be seen as the church so I want to go with the funnier interpretation and that Christ married a building literally. Building marriage for the win. I don't fully believe or follow this religion though so this interpration is mostly me joking. I just know a lot about it because I wanted to study what I missed.

I think it also kind of seen as a metaphor for devotion and having faith not literal marriage like talked about here. But again I'm not fully sure on the day to culture so I might be wrong and it is seen as literal marriage there. Or it might depend on what branch or church your part of.

But if we go with some interpration of Christ actually being an incarnation of an angel and the interpration of literal marriage then it might be the same thing. Not higher nor lower just the same thing.

Believers are the Church, and are spoken of collectively as the Bride of Christ. Jesus is the second Person of the Trinity—God the Father, God the Son, and God the Holy Spirit.

 

[Firetree]

Believers are the Church, and are spoken of collectively as the Bride of Christ. Jesus is the second Person of the Trinity—God the Father, God the Son, and God the Holy Spirit.

That is a 'God marrying a God ' . Otherwise Jesus would not be 'Son' . .. and a Father , you know , needs a little help in the procreation stakes .

But we can't have ; God the Father , God the Shekinah , God the Son .... we could have 'Goddess the Mother' but that would be too 'pagan'. So they had to demote her to Mary , so the son could have a Mom , but that made other complications with God now having to be a Man as well .

Or, Maybe God had sex with a ghost ... or a 'spirit' , just like some of us down here are doing .

God bonked a ghost and made Jesus ... at least the ghost was 'Holy' .

( Many years back I studied some theology at University and I can tell you , the above is no weirder than some of the excuses .... I mean explanations ... I found there . )

 

[sinister]

Following as I'm interested AS Fk in this.

 

[Morell]

That is a 'God marrying a God ' . Otherwise Jesus would not be 'Son' . .. and a Father , you know , needs a little help in the procreation stakes .

But we can't have ; God the Father , God the Shekinah , God the Son .... we could have 'Goddess the Mother' but that would be too 'pagan'. So they had to demote her to Mary , so the son could have a Mom , but that made other complications with God now having to be a Man as well .

Or, Maybe God had sex with a ghost ... or a 'spirit' , just like some of us down here are doing .

God bonked a ghost and made Jesus ... at least the ghost was 'Holy' .

( Many years back I studied some theology at University and I can tell you , the above is no weirder than some of the excuses .... I mean explanations ... I found there . )

Some Christians, even some who are deeper into study of this stuff, believe that the Holy Spirit is a female. That would make whole new concept of this trinity.

 

[Ohana]

You misunderstood. I was speaking about women being sinful because of Eve bringing the evil into the world (evil being therefore blamed on all women, because they are daughters of that traitor Eve) and being able to save themselves from hell by giving birth to as many kids as possible... and having no other way. That was designed by Roman Empire in attempt to raise birthrates, because they were facing population decline at that time. Nothing to do with nuns.

Okay that makes more sense. Thank you for explaining. The Roman Empire was weird. I mean even the names they had were a little weird like Biggus (I know biggus wasn't an actual if you know you know)

God bonked a ghost and made Jesus ... at least the ghost was 'Holy' .

( Many years back I studied some theology at University and I can tell you , the above is no weirder than some of the excuses .... I mean explanations ... I found there . )

Yeah thats one explanation and it makes sense. The question then becomes though thats a bit weird to think about. Did they just create someone to fulfill prophecies or was it an accident.

This explanation still raises a lot of questions. Ones that are not fun to think about.

 

[Firetree]

Some Christians, even some who are deeper into study of this stuff, believe that the Holy Spirit is a female. That would make whole new concept of this trinity.

You mean ... get back to its original concept , in whatever direction you look at it from ;

Okay that makes more sense. Thank you for explaining. The Roman Empire was weird. I mean even the names they had were a little weird like Biggus (I know biggus wasn't an actual if you know you know)

Yeah thats one explanation and it makes sense. The question then becomes though thats a bit weird to think about.

What is a bit weird to think about ? That the primal family unit was to describe nearly every ancient pantheon ... except Judaism ?

or that 'God' is some stand alone father figure with a son and a ghost that is holy as some type of undisclosed 'spiritual wi-fi' and all three are actually one , but not really .

Did they just create someone to fulfill prophecies or was it an accident.

This explanation still raises a lot of questions. Ones that are not fun to think about.

Hint ; look up 'Asherah '

( and guess who gave her the boot ? - our old 'friend' Josiah . )

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Some Christians, even some who are deeper into study of this stuff, believe that the Holy Spirit is a female. That would make whole new concept of this trinity.

You mean ... get back to its original concept , in whatever direction you look at it from ;

Okay that makes more sense. Thank you for explaining. The Roman Empire was weird. I mean even the names they had were a little weird like Biggus (I know biggus wasn't an actual if you know you know)

Yeah thats one explanation and it makes sense. The question then becomes though thats a bit weird to think about.

What is a bit weird to think about ? That the primal family unit was to describe nearly every ancient pantheon ... except Judaism ?

or that 'God' is some stand alone father figure with a son and a ghost that is holy as some type of undisclosed 'spiritual wi-fi' and all three are actually one , but not really .

Did they just create someone to fulfill prophecies or was it an accident.

Are you referring to' the Son' ? That was a build up over time and any 'they' that created that 'someone' were varied . It went something like this ;

Ancient Zoroastrian taught certain principles and ways of living that would improve the human individual and society . They postulated a 'collective good man' of the future with these qualities ; a 'Sayoshant' (' the root of 'saviour ' ) . Now, if everyone in a society becomes like that , then we have a new good society with much less problems ; the vision of a new good age in the future ; the 'Frashokereti ' . Later in its history terms got changed to externalize most of it ; good and bad were seen as coming from outside sources and devils and angels enter the picture , the new age becomes some apocalyptic revelation, the dead rise, all are judged ( sound familiar ? )

Later it got projected onto people like Jews hoping for political freedom in a 'new Jerusalem' being established and that node of belief (and many others ) passed into Christianity .

So although it was 'created ' it was a long process over time with many transformations and divergences . The worst one was this externalized projection ; thinking the change comes from without, when it is needed from within and ever since then we have gone terribly downhill to where we stand today on the brink of a new socio-political and religious apocalypse .

This explanation still raises a lot of questions. Ones that are not fun to think about.

Hint ; look up 'Asherah '

( and guess who gave her the boot ? - our old 'friend' Josiah . )

 

[Veracity]

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