Messing with time

[Kepler]

The thing for witch craft for me is I’d love to the rituals and etc but the materials for that isn’t accessible for me due to my circumstances and current living conditions this is I’d way prefer a “sacred powerful versed” type of method that just as physically powerful as well if you get what I mean.

Intuitively a recommendation for primal vocalizations and glossilalia occurred with this. Something I hadn't considered before. This is why I like to engage in these conversations to find blind spots. It certainly isn't for appreciation shown.

 

[ilycut]

Intuitively a recommendation for primal vocalizations and glossilalia occurred with this. Something I hadn't considered before. This is why I like to engage in these conversations to find blind spots. It certainly isn't for appreciation shown.

Whatever that means it sounds intelligent tho

 

[Kepler]

Whatever that means it sounds intelligent tho

clever idea that intelligence could do something with if it had willpower.

 

[ilycut]

clever idea that intelligence could do something with if it had willpower.

I mean you sound intelligent with ur last reply because I lowkey didn’t understand it much but you’re iq seems high

 

[Kepler]

I mean you sound intelligent with ur last reply because I lowkey didn’t understand it much but you’re iq seems high

Thank you, I appreciate that. I think you may have a subconscious perception of time manipulation or an entity connected to you does. It was another reason I decided to engage. Usually I wouldn't. But back to the iq thing I'm unsure how much is me and permanent and how much is the result of recently moving the geocenter of my hyperdimensional astral temple to Mercury which involves some aspects of time.

 

[HellenaHex]

The thing for witch craft for me is I’d love to the rituals and etc but the materials for that isn’t accessible for me due to my circumstances and current living conditions this is I’d way prefer a “sacred powerful versed” type of method that just as physically powerful as well if you get what I mean.

Witchcraft doesn’t have to be expensive. Keep in mind it was used by poor people working with spirits. I promise you they didn’t have the luxury of a bunch of crystals and candles in every color. You could go for a walk in your own community or yard and identify for yourself what plants, trees, ley lines, land spirits, elementals, human spirits, etc are local to you. After that build a relationship with them and you can easily identify the plants and trees. If you did you can look into folklore, medicinal uses, and magic properties of them. You could also talk to the plant spirit and ask what natural abilities it has and if you could harvest some. If it says yes leave it an offering of your blood or honey. That aside you might also look into lucid dreaming. A lot of people use that to influence their physical manifest reality.

 

[ilycut]

Witchcraft doesn’t have to be expensive. Keep in mind it was used by poor people working with spirits. I promise you they didn’t have the luxury of a bunch of crystals and candles in every color. You could go for a walk in your own community or yard and identify for yourself what plants, trees, ley lines, land spirits, elementals, human spirits, etc are local to you. After that build a relationship with them and you can easily identify the plants and trees. If you did you can look into folklore, medicinal uses, and magic properties of them. You could also talk to the plant spirit and ask what natural abilities it has and if you could harvest some. If it says yes leave it an offering of your blood or honey. That aside you might also look into lucid dreaming. A lot of people use that to influence their physical manifest reality.

Witchcraft doesn’t have to be expensive. Keep in mind it was used by poor people working with spirits. I promise you they didn’t have the luxury of a bunch of crystals and candles in every color. You could go for a walk in your own community or yard and identify for yourself what plants, trees, ley lines, land spirits, elementals, human spirits, etc are local to you. After that build a relationship with them and you can easily identify the plants and trees. If you did you can look into folklore, medicinal uses, and magic properties of them. You could also talk to the plant spirit and ask what natural abilities it has and if you could harvest some. If it says yes leave it an offering of your blood or honey. That aside you might also look into lucid dreaming. A lot of people use that to influence their physical manifest reality.

Honestly it’s mainly the living conditions of extreme hard core Christian mother who does crazy shit and it’s pretty small around here so I don’t really the privilege to practice any sort witch craft, rituals like we are not allowed to even have candles here because of her so try looking for other methods and also could tell me lucid dreaming turning physical?

 

[Yazata]

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[Tutorial] - Retro-Sigils: A Powerful Form of Time Magic

I thought this was really cool. She makes use of Mercury Retrogrades, but I don't care about that so much and would launch these any time. I really appreciate the lists of examples, which help me understand better than pure theory. Everything below is by Orchis, originally shared here...

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[HellenaHex]

I see you’re still in the broom closet as my friend would say. I understand, there was a point where I was as well with certain members of my family. Though I have no doubt they suspected from time to time. Not being able to use candles is frustrating to be sure. Perhaps you could use LED ones just for the psychological aesthetic to help your mind shift into a sorcerous state. My family has always been obsessed with them. The use candles in the catholic side of my family and the other side just likes them for atheistic or home fragrance. But to answer your question, yes I can.

If you practice lucid dreaming you are aware it is when you are in a dream and you become cognizant of that fact. Meaning your conscious mind is active. If you practice you will be able to do or create whatever you desire while in this state. You could even design an altar space for yourself to practice witchcraft in and it would be equally powerful to a physical one. This skill is very useful for practitioners who can’t visualize due to aphantasia. Because in the dreaming we can see visuals

Now if you use this technique with the intent of let’s say owning a necklace you saw in a display window, you would either buy it, have it gifted to you, or just own it in the lucid dream. You would actively look at it, wear it, get complimented on it, and would consider yourself to own it. In this way you are training the physical world to reflect it and bring it to you or a way for you to acquire it. Sort of like the concept of visualizing or manifesting but it’s less new age and more literally affecting your physical manifest reality because the dreaming or unconscious have a way of affecting our physical manifest reality, and our conscious minds. So it’s a bit more like chaos magic (you do it Believe it and then during the day you don’t stress about it.) and less new age but I have seen new age types making use of dream yoga which is this very old concept rebranded basically. For learning the technique it’s best to start small. For example you might want to start with using it to help yourself overcome a fear or influencing how others perceive you. Using this technique in conjunction with other spells or rituals can be very potent.

I may have to make a more in depth better explained tutorial later. I feel like this might not be enough to help you successfully do it… If you are already well versed in lucid dreaming you may be able to have success though. If not the library here might have some books on lucid dreaming which would include exercise for you to practice to learn to become aware you are dreaming as well as take full control of the dream. It’s also important to know that while lucid dreaming your body isn’t getting rest or healing. So you cannot safely do this every night. Just keep that in mind. This is perfectly safe to do as long as you aren’t abusing the technique.

 

[Swampdweller900]

@ilycut

Not asking for you to necessarily respond, but things to think about: Is traveling through or sending messages back in time really the best way to change what you want to change? Will it be worth the time, effort, and cost? I imagine that there's a chance you might be in a place where any cost is worth it.

Are there any alternatives that might be less of a gargantuan task and go with the flow of time we experience moving forward?

 

[AlfrunGrima]

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Beware of digging in complex themes like time-space and multiverses, those are very far-fetched goals even for magicians. You may get mad or psychosis if you don't control your goals

I second this wholeheartly. 25 years ago, just on the beginning of my path I dabbled with this and got random hallucinations about past things and things got out of control. Those hallucinations stopped when I blocked literally a road between this world and a parallel world. I learned the hard way that this is only for very experienced magicians. Nowadays I never ever would open that road again, even not with my years of experience and full of deep work.

 

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I've heard from time compression, halting it and speeding it up for some seconds from the Extreme Occult Abilities book 1 from kenyatta long and thor templar. Astral possessing your longer self and possessing a body of the past or future seems to be the greatest feat on magical history, doubt if anyone has done it or even if it is possible, if it is i doubt anyone would talk about it. At the end the most powerful magicians learned their craft at the astral plane rather by physical information

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Eager to hear more about this topic

the world is silent and still when time is paused there is no temperature but you wont have a hypothermia as you too are still and unfeeling. Light becomes capacitive.

Do any of you do work with time distortion, manipulation or reversing? I've heard about Fotamecus but not really sure how to get started to work with him and don't know if he/it only helps with expanding or compressing time. I would be interested in practices such as sending my coniousness back in the past to leave a note for myself or astral possessing my younger self. Don't know if that's a thing.

i can at least help with the understanding of the concepts.

You can reverse time instead of possessing your younger self. Another alternative is to shift your point in time to the past.
compressing/expanding time is about the relative flow of time, instead the actual flow of time remains the same. You can change the actual flow of time but physics is a bitch here, and you will find things dont conform to what you're used to. When you compress/expand time you create an energy field so time isnt really being messed with as much and it works for traveling but not interaction.

From some works not available to humans, possessing the abilities to manipulate time exists, but the difficulty and power required might be out of reach for many.

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I second this wholeheartly. 25 years ago, just on the beginning of my path I dabbled with this and got random hallucinations about past things and things got out of control. Those hallucinations stopped when I blocked literally a road between this world and a parallel world. I learned the hard way that this is only for very experienced magicians. Nowadays I never ever would open that road again, even not with my years of experience and full of deep work.

when you change time, the changes will have happened and then has happened in the past. Meaning when something changes, we wouldnt know about it and it would've seemed like it is so entirely

 

[ElectricEgregore]

A week or two ago I also thought about making a post asking about magick
and spirits to work with for bending time.

But from my perspective it was more about the powers that can make you progress faster towards goals.
From what I saw most commonly Angels are worked with to achieve this, a very common one is Metatron,
who is supposed to have some dominion over time and space.

There are many others, also mostly specific to the tasks and things one wants to achieve.
Also working with planetary powers, hence also the pagan pantheons make sense here,
as they usually inherit some form of personification of a universal cosmic law that
one wants to nudge into the favored direction.
Maybe Mercury for learning languages, Mars for competitive situations etc.

That's how I would approach magick for bending time.

Maybe you could work with different spirits to ease your trauma, doing some physical release exercises-
and as many here said before- talk to people, professional help is the best way not to burden personal relationships
with the weight of topics that may trigger both sides, or even if a good friend is listening- it may put pressure on the relationship.
That's why counseling or helplines exist.

And I wanted to add one thing about the mentioned book 'Unleash extreme occult power':

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Not to mock anybody, you can draw useful things out of the most unusual places, but it smells like moneygrab to me.
There are many occult publishers that are on the 'artificial-scarcity-track', but some at least have the dignity to make up for some things in production quality. I think there are many places to learn about the siddhis and other powers cheaper or even for free.
Especially in buddhist and vedic/tantric teachings.