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Petitioning Saints

Sumayyah

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I'm not sure if any of you here work with saints but I wanted to know if anyone knows how I can petition St Expedite without any alter or offerings. I moved back into my parents place and cannot set up an alter. If anyone knows how to or if its not possible please let me know. Thankss
 

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I like saint work. It's one of my favorites.

You have the first option. Going to an Orthodox church and lighting candles while making requests. Then you have the akathists, novenas, icons. You can light candles before the icons at home as an offering and make requests.
Akathists and novenas, read them at once not over 9 days or something.
Doing the rituals at church icons it works very well however if you make weird material requests it seems like they're carried out by something else. The saints over there answer to requests like purification, healing, asceticism, anything material gets answered by something else. :unsure:

Expedite, there are some novenas, icons.
 

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When it comes to saints...well, sorry, being Catholic I get free access. Direct line. No call waiting. Comes with the territory. ;)

I just ask. Nothing fancy. My favorite saint is St. Anne, patron of lost causes. That's me in a scallop shell, and she has this attitude, as in "when all else fails, try and resort to consensus reality". Works like a charm, which is why she would consider it a miracle if I went there of my own volition, being pretty much allergic to it. Thing about saints...they have heard it all and then some. Whether you say a novena, stand on your head, refrain from eating chicken for a month or light candles, that is all on you. I just talk to them in the same way I would talk to my car if it decided to stop working. After all, they are all around us, all of the time. They are not a celestial tax audit. They don't carry lightning in their teeth. They are a communion, and all of the metaphysical niceties of heaven above and earth below need not apply. You don't have to be a saint to call one either. If you want to go traditional, say their name three times. Some have hearing problems. In short and sweet, they are about as close to embodied as you can get without having a body to go with it. If you don't believe me go somewhere where peeps be like "Tony dear, find my feckin keys already." But I say that from within a lived-in tradition. So...

I draw the line with Expedite and other folk saints. Expedite tends to cross liminal borders with impunity, and I would not want him to expedite me to where I'm going soon enough anyway. I would offer him prayers and candles and such in accordance with his ties to certain magickal traditions, and the nature of the work within those traditions that pertain to him specifically. Same goes for Santisima Muerte, because context does matter. I was not born of the tradition, culturally or spiritually within which she arose. And if I were down in Santo Domingo I would make sure I knew exactly which Saint Anne I was praying to, partly out of respect for a tradition that I don't belong to and partly because it is just good psychic hygiene. In other words, I meet the saints and spirits of any tradition on their terms and according to the protocol prescribed by the tradition within which they are honored. I don't collapse my tradition into someone else's. I don't appropriate. I don't syncretize, I don't pretend to belong where I do not. I approach them as I would were I a guest in their house, which I am. In other words, stay in your lane. Work with them from within your own cosmology, your own beliefs. With the saints, need is what matters. So is sincerity.
 

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I do not recall if he is technically considered a "left-hand" Folk Catholic saint, but he's definitely "hot," so be on your good manners with him. Some think he's a form of Mercury, but if so he would be Necro-Mercury. :)

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