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Possessing someone in the astral

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So, I'm not really too knowledgeable on AP compared to some other people, especially since I've never managed to do it, but would it be possible to (especially with consent, since i've heard that makes it easier?) to astral project, and then possess someone's body? I haven't seen too much stuff about this online
 

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Lol, nobody's touching this one. Skeleton Key Hoodoo style switching bodies, just visiting, or taking over for other purposes? So, what purpose @EmperorV ?
 

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Lol, nobody's touching this one. Skeleton Key Hoodoo style switching bodies, just visiting, or taking over for other purposes? So, what purpose @EmperorV ?
More so how it's standardly depicted with spirits, demons and such, where you simply just take control. As for why, if you mean that, it's simply that the astral and everything around me interests me and I actually have a buddy who would be willing to volunteer, so why not?
 

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More so how it's standardly depicted with spirits, demons and such, where you simply just take control. As for why, if you mean that, it's simply that the astral and everything around me interests me and I actually have a buddy who would be willing to volunteer, so why not?
With a willing participant, it's something in the realm of "theoretically plausible if you're willing to commit to many years of practice" at best. I've never seen a single claim of this definitively being done that didn't come from someone who very clearly had no clue how astral projection works, and I've seen a lot of claims about it. Once the person making the claim starts getting questioned, their story always unravels into some kind of spiritual lingo ad-libs with them apparently being able to miraculously leave their body whenever they want without meditating, and them having taught themself how to astral project a few months ago at most. I wouldn't say it's definitely impossible, but I'm extremely skeptical of anyone who says they've done it.

Normally I would suggest learning to project and testing it for yourself, but with a goal like this I'd be wary of it unless your friend is some prodigious demigod of a medium who's able to have absolute 100% certainty that whatever they're inviting into their body is you. Putting on a fairly convincing disguise and masquerading as someone else is child's play for any spirit. Learning to reliably navigate the physical world during an OBE I'd say is a lot harder than learning to just induce an OBE, and possession is something that's really not a good idea for beginners to play around with. I've got a few years of AP practice under my belt, and I still would not be comfortable asking a friend to try something like that.
 

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To poses is to dominate. You would have to have not only a huge mount of energy, but a willpower strong enough to overpower the person, if you want against their will. That would be also easily destructive to the person in question.

For a willing dummy it would be far easier "technologically," however the energy you would need to control another body could easily deplete you and that would mean needless danger.

Visiting another body just as a visitor, like sitting on seat next to the driver in car and just enjoying the ride, that can be easy done without any harm. It is common to find one or few spirits within your body.
 

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Ok, @EmperorV, what I know, hopefully keeping it short.
As Monroe mentioned, when you try to even touch someone while out of body, it can become explosive. This protection isn't, in my humble opinion, something your buddy can override with the desire to volunteer. And no, I haven't determined what might be behind this exact lock, block, or filter system. There are many of these lock/block/filter systems in place, as if this were by design. Some of it is protective.
You can merge together during dream practices, and/or share the same dream and dream landscape. So you can be lucid together.
These differences are also the reason we separate the descriptions between out of body, astral, lucid or dream body. There are more systems than this, but these appear to be the most common and have common terminology. The variations of experience, even in the known, are extreme and cross over.
There is a configuration where people become one, and I'm not a fan of that cesspool, but you lose your own identity and merge or blend into this oneness woo woo system that is like a pee pee warm love pool. Some people appear to like it, so to each their own. In that scenario, you would likely lose your own intent and will to the giant pee pee pool of love... barf.
I have not attempted to touch anyone else in an out of body state.
I have heard that some dead people have stepped into other people's bodies after that owner died and left, and the body was revived and that person stayed, without knowing what actually happened after that. I assume they assume that identity and live on.
There are the tales of shaman and others possessing animals, and often if that animal dies, so do they.
There are also the familiars where they can loan you their sight or more.
Psychics that can see and feel from the perspective of the victim or perp, whether that is some stored history or akashic, and likely a bit of both. Then the possessions by entities, which would say it is totally possible to do, but I'm not an entity so I couldn't say what method is involved in that.
There are also the facts involved in herd poisoning or intoxication, where one instigator or influencer can control the mental and emotional rage of entire crowds, and this can also be seen in some concert settings where people lose themselves and become controlled like the lemming puppets that most of them truly are. There are the possessions of the holy spirit in some religions, and the possessions by spirits in many Hoodoo practices.
So, we have a lot of options and tales.
If you accomplish this, please certainly let everyone know.
The first step, of course, is to be able to step out and control the experience, which is pretty rare, even with those who are quite adept at it.
I'm a dreamer or dream walker mainly, and that bleeds back and forth between lucid, out of body, astral, and just bits and pieces of perception that can perceive banal and stupid future events at random or experience things because of that form of perception. I haven't figured out what good most of this skill is, except for entertainment and shocking the people who are dreaming into understanding that there is more to reality than they realize. Much of these experiences are sudden, uncontrolled by my ego consciousness or my own intent, and are obviously being steered by different formats of separate altered states or personalities of an ethereal nature. So, alignment with these other parts of ourselves means losing the waking ego part of yourself and letting these other parts steer the boat, and that usually means you lose your own will and intent in order to be able to operate and perceive in these other formats. Aligning your intent with those parts of yourself that can step away from the physical body is a major esoteric feat, and also very rare. Like the "Not my will, but yours be done" idea. Surrendering.
So, short form, even if you do get out of your body, the part of you in control and experiencing this is not likely going to be the same you that wishes to merge with your friend, and you will likely end up doing other things instead.
 
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