[Help] Predictive tarot

[Francesca]

What do we think on predictive tarot and how can one improve in it?? I have this story from my mom where she once went for a tarot reading with an old lady from the country side, and she correctly predicted her future about my dad, my brothers (she wasnt even pregnant yet) and a few other things. While I understand it might be hard to get to that point and it involves more than just being good at reading cards, I would like to get to that point one day, but how? Ive only done evolutive readings until now, very little predictive ones, and of simple matters too (although I did got them right)

 

[Francesca]

What do we think on predictive tarot and how can one improve in it?? I have this story from my mom where she once went for a tarot reading with an old lady from the country side, and she correctly predicted her future about my dad, my brothers (she wasnt even pregnant yet) and a few other things. While I understand it might be hard to get to that point and it involves more than just being good at reading cards, I would like to get to that point one day, but how? Ive only done evolutive readings until now, very little predictive ones, and of simple matters too (although I did got them right)

 

[Frater M.M.]

I dunno, I'm open to the idea of it. I do daily 3-card draws for myself but they tend to be synchronous with what's going on in my life or provide advice. I don't really do predictive stuff and haven't tested it for myself.

I'm interested to see what others have to say on the topic.

 

[Dyn Hysbys]

Maybe this is where the 'quick 'n' dirty' folk use of playing cards comes in.

Rather than the lofty aim of tarot to highlight gains and pitfalls on the spiritual path, perhaps look to folk cartomancy, or specifically 'fortune telling' cards, to predict the more immediate or day-to-day stuff.

I definitely recommend a simple Lenormand deck, personally I find it far more accurate and straightforward than tarot.

 

[Oceanic]

I find this really interesting to read. I use divination with a pendulum and all I've heard and read is that future forecasting past a couple of weeks at best is unreliable. I'm testing it for myself just now with things I can't predict but know are coming. How do card readings differ from pendulum use and predict future events possibly better?
What information giving source do tarot cards have, and how are they different from pendulum information giving sources? Does anyone have a theory or answer for this?

 

[akenu]

I find this really interesting to read. I use divination with a pendulum and all I've heard and read is that future forecasting past a couple of weeks at best is unreliable. I'm testing it for myself just now with things I can't predict but know are coming. How do card readings differ from pendulum use and predict future events possibly better?
What information giving source do tarot cards have, and how are they different from pendulum information giving sources? Does anyone have a theory or answer for this?

Well, generally pendulum answers the yes/no questions you ask. Or, if you use charts, it can give some basic outlines of health, certain outcomes, etc.

On the other hand, tarot can point you in directions you haven't even asked about or from angles you haven't thought of.

 

[Oceanic]

Thank you for the explanation. But do you think the information giving source is the same?

 

[Dyn Hysbys]

Thank you for the explanation. But do you think the information giving source is the same?

Can you clarify what you mean by 'source'?

 

[Oceanic]

I contact my spirit guides so they give me my pendulum answers. So who or what gives the tarot card answers?

 

[Eldros]

What do we think on predictive tarot and how can one improve in it?? I have this story from my mom where she once went for a tarot reading with an old lady from the country side, and she correctly predicted her future about my dad, my brothers (she wasnt even pregnant yet) and a few other things. While I understand it might be hard to get to that point and it involves more than just being good at reading cards, I would like to get to that point one day, but how? Ive only done evolutive readings until now, very little predictive ones, and of simple matters too (although I did got them right)

I think it’s mostly about learning how your intuition speaks through the cards...
Start with small predictions, write them down, and see what actually happens.
Over time you’ll notice your own patterns -and maybe eventually reach that - old lady from the village - level of knowing…

 

[Frater M.M.]

I contact my spirit guides so they give me my pendulum answers. So who or what gives the tarot card answers?

I essentially do the same as you with tarot cards. To me they're just bits of card with drawings on them, no different (in essence) to a long piece of string with an object tied to it at the end.

 

[Dyn Hysbys]

I contact my spirit guides so they give me my pendulum answers. So who or what gives the tarot card answers?

It probably depends (as with so much in magic) on which model of magic you follow.
I'm an animist (the spirit model) and so I ask my ancestors or spirit court for answers via divination.
Another magician might follow the psychological model, and experience any divination through that lens (archetypes, subconscious etc.)
This applies to all forms of divination.

 

[Nembra]

Future sight is kind of a muddy territory, I'm not sure how would it be supposed to work. Prediction certainly can't be any simple physical mechanism because then you'd get all the mess with time travel paradoxes; tapping into shared unconscious theoretically might get you there, kind of Dune-style, but I don't think sufficiently sophisticated methods were developed as of yet. Maybe it's by some some synchronic, acausal patterns, but this is a rather involved matter, I don't think the deck alone would suffice.

 

[Oceanic]

It probably depends (as with so much in magic) on which model of magic you follow.
I'm an animist (the spirit model) and so I ask my ancestors or spirit court for answers via divination.
Another magician might follow the psychological model, and experience any divination through that lens (archetypes, subconscious etc.)
This applies to all forms of divination.

So you basically contact the same spirits as me I guess. My guides told me they are 88 in total and say that I'm related to them from past lives. My grandfather and a deceased friend are among them, I mean from this life.

I'm just curious if you've had accurate future predictions like a year or more ahead from them or has anyone else?

And would the psychological model be more likely to be able to forecast far into the future? How could the village woman do that?

 

[Dyn Hysbys]

As Nembra says, future sight is muddy.
There are too many moving parts, too many variables, to read accurately the further ahead you look.
The ancestors have a different view than us, sure, but they are not all-knowing.
'Enchant long, divine short' is good advice I read somewhere.
No model is better/more accurate than the other.

 

[Oceanic]

As Nembra says, future sight is muddy.
There are too many moving parts, too many variables, to read accurately the further ahead you look.
The ancestors have a different view than us, sure, but they are not all-knowing.
'Enchant long, divine short' is good advice I read somewhere.
No model is better/more accurate than the other.

Okay thank you both for your answers, that has been really helpful. I'm always really curious about how things work and am new to this, so it's great to get feedback and answers!