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Royal vampirism old europe myth or truth

hazel hawthorne

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i was wondering if anyone has thought about the idea of royal vampirism in old Europe's wealthy bloodlines. It was said a ritual to maintain power in the family and it went like drinking of mixture of your siblings or cousins period blood, semen, or regular blood to enhance youth and vitality or something like that im sorry i cant provide evidence or even find where on the internet this originated but would this actually have given them power in a family rituals. It sounds pretty crazy but maybe if you know something about vampirism history you have something to add.
 

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Hmmmm not sure about “power in the family” but generations of inbreeding gave birth to the famous Hapsburg jaw. Eleonora von Schwarzenberg might fit what you are looking for. Btw go easy on the blood drinking. I tried Moravian pigs blood soup once and it was pretty salty…
 

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Chm... I wanted to suggest moving this threat into Vampirism... too late I guess. But you should be aware that there is section of the forum dedicated to vampirism. (my favorite. :D )

Combination of nobility and vampirism is modern thing, that started really with generation of writers that included Bram Stocker. You might know the novel Dracula, but there were more, The Vampire, Carmilla, Clarimonde... those are one of the oldest mentions of vampires among the nobles.

But in Middleages vampire was revenant, a living corpse that people feared. Simply undead that was hunting the living, something that was wrong. And claiming a noble to be undead was something none would dare. The vampires were mater of common folk, mostly connected with fear and superstitions of magic and evil. No one wanted to be a vampire when everyone wanted to go to heaven and walking dead were condemed, lost souls destined to hell... in their minds. It was very different society from today. That is why you cannot find any historical evidence of vampirism among nobles. Even considering that back then would be heresy, the nobles were chosen to lead by god. That's what they believed.

So, among modern people many have heard of the idea, but it has no real historical background. Elizabeth Bathory was a noble woman who was a widow who refused to marry and wanted to be independent. And so they started accusing her of witchcraft to get to her vast wealth. Just one example. Dracula wasn't vampire either. the tales of him drinking blood were made by his enemies and haters, he was simply man and politician of his age. When we stick to hard facts, we have to admit this. The nobles are no longer as they used to be, and so they became legendary... and their legends got mixed with legend of vampires at some point. That is the bottom of it.
 

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Hmmmm not sure about “power in the family” but generations of inbreeding gave birth to the famous Hapsburg jaw. Eleonora von Schwarzenberg might fit what you are looking for. Btw go easy on the blood drinking. I tried Moravian pigs blood soup once and it was pretty salty…
it may have been salty because of anti coagulants in the blood for presentation
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Chm... I wanted to suggest moving this threat into Vampirism... too late I guess. But you should be aware that there is section of the forum dedicated to vampirism. (my favorite. :D )

Combination of nobility and vampirism is modern thing, that started really with generation of writers that included Bram Stocker. You might know the novel Dracula, but there were more, The Vampire, Carmilla, Clarimonde... those are one of the oldest mentions of vampires among the nobles.

But in Middleages vampire was revenant, a living corpse that people feared. Simply undead that was hunting the living, something that was wrong. And claiming a noble to be undead was something none would dare. The vampires were mater of common folk, mostly connected with fear and superstitions of magic and evil. No one wanted to be a vampire when everyone wanted to go to heaven and walking dead were condemed, lost souls destined to hell... in their minds. It was very different society from today. That is why you cannot find any historical evidence of vampirism among nobles. Even considering that back then would be heresy, the nobles were chosen to lead by god. That's what they believed.

So, among modern people many have heard of the idea, but it has no real historical background. Elizabeth Bathory was a noble woman who was a widow who refused to marry and wanted to be independent. And so they started accusing her of witchcraft to get to her vast wealth. Just one example. Dracula wasn't vampire either. the tales of him drinking blood were made by his enemies and haters, he was simply man and politician of his age. When we stick to hard facts, we have to admit this. The nobles are no longer as they used to be, and so they became legendary... and their legends got mixed with legend of vampires at some point. That is the bottom of it.
thats very interesting, do you believe in the dragon bloodlines of Europe they would be the ones most responsible for royal vampirism. They are said to be in the ruling class of the world even till this day though diluted they are mythologically said to descend from satan rather than adam and eve and possess an aristocrat look with red hair, pale skin, and blue green eyes. This theory also connects to occult nazism they believed to be the leaders of the Aryan race which they believed to have descended from the dragon bloodline but its not really accurate or provable i dont remember all of it yet theres a million different theories to describe this some ppl say their angels, or vampires, bloodline of demigods like hercules
 
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thats very interesting, do you believe in the dragon bloodlines of Europe they would be the ones most responsible for royal vampirism. They are said to be in the ruling class of the world even till this day though diluted they are mythologically said to descend from satan rather than adam and eve and possess an aristocrat look with red hair, pale skin, and blue green eyes. This theory also connects to occult nazism they believed to be the leaders of the Aryan race which they believed to have descended from the dragon bloodline but its not really accurate or provable i dont remember all of it yet theres a million different theories to describe this some ppl say their angels, or vampires, bloodline of demigods like hercules
It's nonsense.

There was The Order of he Dragon, which was in the end nothing more than political party, a club of few royal people, including Father of Dracula, who was wearing the symbol of dragon everywhere to show how big defender of Christianity he is. (showoff type of guy) So then Dracula was nicknamed Son of the Dragon, but it was no more than pun on his father "dragon exhibition." Nothing supernatural about that.

Dragon bloodlines, evil Illuminati, Reptilians, Annunaki... all of that is just myths.

There is a reason why some powerful people might actually believe it themselves, and that is ensuring their place on top of society. In middle-ages all the nobles were claiming that they are noble because god wills it. That was their excuse for their right to be on top. Not that much working today so new myth had to take place to make their right to be on top justified. So there are bloodlines going back to mythical gods, dragons, etc. Just another elitist religion.
 

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It's nonsense.

There was The Order of he Dragon, which was in the end nothing more than political party, a club of few royal people, including Father of Dracula, who was wearing the symbol of dragon everywhere to show how big defender of Christianity he is. (showoff type of guy) So then Dracula was nicknamed Son of the Dragon, but it was no more than pun on his father "dragon exhibition." Nothing supernatural about that.

Dragon bloodlines, evil Illuminati, Reptilians, Annunaki... all of that is just myths.

There is a reason why some powerful people might actually believe it themselves, and that is ensuring their place on top of society. In middle-ages all the nobles were claiming that they are noble because god wills it. That was their excuse for their right to be on top. Not that much working today so new myth had to take place to make their right to be on top justified. So there are bloodlines going back to mythical gods, dragons, etc. Just another elitist religion.
thank you i much needed such a clarifying response
 

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No problem. It's hard sometimes to get right information and even more to figure out how to discern between fact and fiction, they tend to melt quite easily. And fiction is usually way more appealing than reality.
 
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