Seeking and Sought

[Len Seliesen]

I had my first experiences with magick several weeks ago. It came in the form of clairvoyance. I had become very interested in the subjects and had been reading and pondering. I had also been independently studying on universal consciousness. When these clairvoyances happened, it was as if my intentions and my awareness of connection to [C] and the receiving of the information were happening in very fast time. Seemingly to be instantaneously together in my novice understanding and capacity. I wonder if at times the seeker is also being sought. Thoughts?

 

[Öwnchef]

Of course. The system reacts. Which is good. Very good, indeed.

Do you dream?

 

[Len Seliesen]

So glad to hear that. And yes, agreed its very good. I'm so thrilled to have these experiences and I'm thirsty to keep on developing. I'll probably take more than I give on here for a while. Thanks for bearing with me. I hope to give just as much one day.

I do dream. Sometimes quite vividly.

 

[Konsciencia]

Keep going at it. I'm happy for you that you got to experience that. One thing for sure, let your intuition guide you. Trust me, it is wonderful.

 

[Öwnchef]

So glad to hear that. And yes, agreed its very good. I'm so thrilled to have these experiences and I'm thirsty to keep on developing. I'll probably take more than I give on here for a while. Thanks for bearing with me. I hope to give just as much one day.

I do dream. Sometimes quite vividly.

As a happenstance, dreams are your key to the portal of all the mysteries and wonders. You might even get lucky and the one or the other person in this forum might give you valueable hints on your dreams. Do not fear! All will be good!

Did I mention tarot? Probably not. But yes, good idea! Do you own one?

 

[Roma]

It might be worth pointing out that the inner senses, such as clairvoyance, can exist on every subplane on which the human is active. Clairvoyance is not magic. It is a natural development of the human.

Clairvoyance is common with animals and very young humans. For example, my elder boy, when very young always looked above my head when I spoke to him. Later, as usual, the clairvoyance was removed, and he looked at my eyes

Wordsworth had something to say about it

Heaven lies about us in our infancy!
Shades of the prison-house begin to close
Upon the growing Boy,
But he beholds the light, and whence it flows,
He sees it in his joy;
The Youth, who daily farther from the east
Must travel, still is Nature’s Priest,
And by the vision splendid
Is on his way attended;
At length the Man perceives it die away,
And fade into the light of common day.

 

[Öwnchef]

It might be worth pointing out that the inner senses, such as clairvoyance, can exist on every subplane on which the human is active. Clairvoyance is not magic. It is a natural development of the human.

Clairvoyance is common with animals and very young humans. For example, my elder boy, when very young always looked above my head when I spoke to him. Later, as usual, the clairvoyance was removed, and he looked at my eyes

Wordsworth had something to say about it

Heaven lies about us in our infancy!
Shades of the prison-house begin to close
Upon the growing Boy,
But he beholds the light, and whence it flows,
He sees it in his joy;
The Youth, who daily farther from the east
Must travel, still is Nature’s Priest,
And by the vision splendid
Is on his way attended;
At length the Man perceives it die away,
And fade into the light of common day.

You are looking for magic? Look at children! They got it!

> Clairvoyance is not magic. It is a natural development of the human.

Of course. Magic is natural.

 

[Ancient]

I wonder if at times the seeker is also being sought

In instances like this, like attracts like. You will get out of life what you put into it; as you guide your thoughts and intentions with purpose you will encounter more similar experiences.

I like how Aidan Wachter puts it in the book “Six Ways: Approaches and Entries for Practical Magic”, pg.151:

"The sorcerous world is a reticular one. Built of threads or strands of connection, of contagion, vectors of change and manifestation. Like a spider’s web, a touch on one thread sends information throughout the entire creation.
This magical net is expansive. It spreads a long, long way beyond us. It is helpful to think of ourselves not as wielding the net like a fisherman, but more like existing as a node or knot on a vast, Field-wide [universe-wide] network or web.
...Our works send out ripples through this reticulate structure.
...If we make the songs we sing (the works we do) clear enough and enticing enough we can call to us connections from nodes farther afield.
...If we can accept that these nodes move and shift proximity due to similarity of purpose and intention, this opens us to the idea that as we work on the web, we draw to use things that have affinity with us and support what we do. So effectively the other interested nodes come to have stronger bonds and closer connections with us. It is 'as if' they have moved closer together on the web. This can be decidedly helpful, or decidedly unhelpful!"

So yes, I think the seeker is often also being sought. I also highly recommend the above book, it has been shared here in our forum library.

 

[DiLoco_DelEted]

I had my first experiences with magick several weeks ago. It came in the form of clairvoyance. I had become very interested in the subjects and had been reading and pondering. I had also been independently studying on universal consciousness. When these clairvoyances happened, it was as if my intentions and my awareness of connection to [C] and the receiving of the information were happening in very fast time. Seemingly to be instantaneously together in my novice understanding and capacity. I wonder if at times the seeker is also being sought. Thoughts?

The fisherman is the enjoyer of the meal.
Penned by Paul Foster Case in The Book of Tokens refers to Tzaddi lording over Nun, and the enjoyer being the Ancient of Days, where the fish being Nun (as in descendant of Moses) is the seeker.
Absolutely.

 

[Len Seliesen]

Keep going at it. I'm happy for you that you got to experience that. One thing for sure, let your intuition guide you. Trust me, it is wonderful.

Thank you so much for that encouragement. I will do that.

 

[Len Seliesen]

As a happenstance, dreams are your key to the portal of all the mysteries and wonders. You might even get lucky and the one or the other person in this forum might give you valueable hints on your dreams. Do not fear! All will be good!

Did I mention tarot? Probably not. But yes, good idea! Do you own one?

Oh wow, I didn't realize. I'll have to take care in efforts to remember them s clearly as I can. Thank you for that!
Yes, we have those. My wife uses them. We use them together at times.

 

[Len Seliesen]

It might be worth pointing out that the inner senses, such as clairvoyance, can exist on every subplane on which the human is active. Clairvoyance is not magic. It is a natural development of the human.

Clairvoyance is common with animals and very young humans. For example, my elder boy, when very young always looked above my head when I spoke to him. Later, as usual, the clairvoyance was removed, and he looked at my eyes

Wordsworth had something to say about it

Heaven lies about us in our infancy!
Shades of the prison-house begin to close
Upon the growing Boy,
But he beholds the light, and whence it flows,
He sees it in his joy;
The Youth, who daily farther from the east
Must travel, still is Nature’s Priest,
And by the vision splendid
Is on his way attended;
At length the Man perceives it die away,
And fade into the light of common day.

Thank you. I appreciate your contribution. It did/does feel quite natural.

 

[Len Seliesen]

You are looking for magic? Look at children! They got it!



Of course. Magic is natural.

I was thinking the same thing.

 

[Len Seliesen]

In instances like this, like attracts like. You will get out of life what you put into it; as you guide your thoughts and intentions with purpose you will encounter more similar experiences.

I like how Aidan Wachter puts it in the book “Six Ways: Approaches and Entries for Practical Magic”, pg.151:

"The sorcerous world is a reticular one. Built of threads or strands of connection, of contagion, vectors of change and manifestation. Like a spider’s web, a touch on one thread sends information throughout the entire creation.
This magical net is expansive. It spreads a long, long way beyond us. It is helpful to think of ourselves not as wielding the net like a fisherman, but more like existing as a node or knot on a vast, Field-wide [universe-wide] network or web.
...Our works send out ripples through this reticulate structure.
...If we make the songs we sing (the works we do) clear enough and enticing enough we can call to us connections from nodes farther afield.
...If we can accept that these nodes move and shift proximity due to similarity of purpose and intention, this opens us to the idea that as we work on the web, we draw to use things that have affinity with us and support what we do. So effectively the other interested nodes come to have stronger bonds and closer connections with us. It is 'as if' they have moved closer together on the web. This can be decidedly helpful, or decidedly unhelpful!"

So yes, I think the seeker is often also being sought. I also highly recommend the above book, it has been shared here in our forum library.

Wonderful! And thank you for that good passage and that good advise. Iwant to read this book now.

 

[Len Seliesen]

The fisherman is the enjoyer of the meal.
Penned by Paul Foster Case in The Book of Tokens refers to Tzaddi lording over Nun, and the enjoyer being the Ancient of Days, where the fish being Nun (as in descendant of Moses) is the seeker.
Absolutely.

Thank you very much! I'll have to read the book of tokens.

 

[Jk666]

@Len Seliesen if I were you I’d look at the dark/opposite side of the world- the

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realms = realms of the shells, death, destruction etc 1st before doing any white magic/taro/divination work.

From personal experience white magic works by separating the mind from the body, that often can and does cause mental illness.

black=earth/red=blood magic keeps the brain in the body & you come face to face with your shadow. That’s why we do shadow work.

if not careful the shadow can cause many problems. Here’s a useful intro to

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[Len Seliesen]

@Len Seliesen if I were you I’d look at the dark/opposite side of the world- the

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realms = realms of the shells, death, destruction etc 1st before doing any white magic/taro/divination work.

From personal experience white magic works by separating the mind from the body, that often can and does cause mental illness.

black=earth/red=blood magic keeps the brain in the body & you come face to face with your shadow. That’s why we do shadow work.

if not careful the shadow can cause many problems. Here’s a useful intro to

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Very intriguing. Thank you for that information, it is well appreciated. Was there a reference book or place to learn more that you had in mind on the subject?

 

[Jk666]

Very intriguing. Thank you for that information, it is well appreciated. Was there a reference book or place to learn more that you had in mind on the subject?

I linked good resources to the words etheric & shadow work in my post.

what I do is meditate on my anger resentment fear sadness instead of meditating on positive emotions so I can face my shadow

you can visualise red/black energy coming from your base chakra & do a scan of your entire body with it.

 

[Len Seliesen]

I linked good resources to the words etheric & shadow work in my post.

what I do is meditate on my anger resentment fear sadness instead of meditating on positive emotions so I can face my shadow

you can visualise red/black energy coming from your base chakra & do a scan of your entire body with it.

OK, thanks, I'll check those out again. And wow. That sounds very interesting. I just may may look into this. May offer a balance to what I'm currently doing.

 

[Len Seliesen]

@Len Seliesen if I were you I’d look at the dark/opposite side of the world- the

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realms = realms of the shells, death, destruction etc 1st before doing any white magic/taro/divination work.

From personal experience white magic works by separating the mind from the body, that often can and does cause mental illness.

black=earth/red=blood magic keeps the brain in the body & you come face to face with your shadow. That’s why we do shadow work.

if not careful the shadow can cause many problems. Here’s a useful intro to

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Found them. Thank you! I'm seeing the purpose of these. Feels essential.