So, are you a member of the Tribe?

[Ohana]

The desire to identify with and participate in any community (other than for physical survival) is immature and vulgar.

There have been a bunch of studies done that say loneliness impacts your health and overall wellbeing.

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So technically by your definition no one is vulgar or immature because loneliness does affect physical survival. It impacts health and affects physical survival. In 2023 the surgeon general issued an advisory about the impact of loneliness and how it affects health.

So getting into a group of friend literally impacts physical survival. Also as someone that had to suffer intense loneliness it did impact my health greatly so going out and trying to be part of a group was a literal survival strategy

 

[Ananda]

So ... all humans , being of the order primates - who need and desire to live, not alone, not in herds but in 'extended family groups ' are declared by you to be immature and vulgar for doing so ?

Many don't have good relations with their parents or siblings, let alone extended family. I think it's a good idea to maintain good relations with and help extended family, but that has nothing to do with what I was talking about. And I don't care for evolutionary psychology.

Many convert to Islam in the west out of desires to belong to a group, for a sense of community, for social interaction, etc. Many are proud about being born into a particular community, family, etc and make it a part of their identity. This is what I was referring to.

So getting into a group of friend literally impacts physical survival. Also as someone that had to suffer intense loneliness it did impact my health greatly so going out and trying to be part of a group was a literal survival strategy

It is possible to be alone much of the time without feeling lonely. I hope you get to that state.

You guys should read Schopenhauer's essay on Solitude. What I wrote before will make much more sense after.

 

[Sedim Haba]

What if you were born in an alien body? On an alien world, a world not meant for you?

Would you not try to ingrate into the society and culture of the aliens you now share biology?

 

[Ohana]

It is possible to be alone much of the time without feeling lonely. I hope you get to that state.

You guys should read Schopenhauer's essay on Solitude. What I wrote before will make much more sense after.

I did. I'm fine now. It took work and I got lucky because I had time to figure out who I was

Schopenhauer did not live today though. People are in time crisis. Solitude to be happy people first have to have time to understand yourself. People need resources and time too.

I know isolation. Pure isolation. No forums like this one to hold your hand. No one to hear when you are sad and no one around when your afriad. True isolation is terrifying. Especially to people. Don't believe me look up people trapped in solitary confinement and hear their first hand expierences.

If you want to try I don't recommend it but to try you'll literally have to even leave this space too. If we're going by your standards you technically don't need magic to live. I honestly hope you don't leave because true isolation is terrifying.

I will admit some solitude is good for the soul since it helps you find out who you are. But taken to the extreme for people. Its not fun. And it seems like your taking this to the extreme.

 

[Ananda]

• alien body? On an alien world, a world not meant for you?
  
  Would you not try to ingrate into the society and culture of the aliens you now share biology?

Only as much as required to thrive and obtain liberation from birth and death.

I will admit some solitude is good for the soul since it helps you find out who you are. But taken to the extreme for people. Its not fun. And it seems like your taking this to the extreme.

I have to work like everyone else, and I usually have only 3 hours available for other tasks. I think most people should make an effort to seek solitude after dealing with people, 50+ hours per week.