Tarantino Spin On Bruce Lee

[speculumphilosophi]

This clip is amusing but I also think it shows Quentin Tarantino doesn't grasp Bruce Lee's teachings on Jeete Kune Do. In the supposed fight scene here with a stuntman, it couldn't be clear that the actor portraying Bruce is going to run forwards and kick his opponent. It's like the mother of all telegraphing. The stuntman has a good minute to work out his response.
The truth is Bruce choreographed his strikes to fractions of a second. He never would have been as predictable and obvious as here.
Another thing is Bruce was fighting and sparring every day, often with Kareem Abdul Jabar, who was well over 7 feet tall. A typical stuntman would be fit but likely to get into the odd bar brawl, so far as practice goes. So, it's highly unlikely the stuntman could have caught Bruce as in this clip.
As to Ali, Bruce admired him hugely. Ali portrayed speed and adaptability and that impacted on Bruce Lee's fighting philosophy.

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[Eldros]

This clip is amusing but I also think it shows Quentin Tarantino doesn't grasp Bruce Lee's teachings on Jeete Kune Do. In the supposed fight scene here with a stuntman, it couldn't be clear that the actor portraying Bruce is going to run forwards and kick his opponent. It's like the mother of all telegraphing. The stuntman has a good minute to work out his response.
The truth is Bruce choreographed his strikes to fractions of a second. He never would have been as predictable and obvious as here.
Another thing is Bruce was fighting and sparring every day, often with Kareem Abdul Jabar, who was well over 7 feet tall. A typical stuntman would be fit but likely to get into the odd bar brawl, so far as practice goes. So, it's highly unlikely the stuntman could have caught Bruce as in this clip.
As to Ali, Bruce admired him hugely. Ali portrayed speed and adaptability and that impacted on Bruce Lee's fighting philosophy.

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Yeah, I see what you mean about Bruce Lee and Jeet Kune Do.
But I think it’s also worth remembering that Tarantino changed quite a lot from what actually happened, especially with Sharon Tate, Roman Polanski’s wife.
So I suppose the Bruce Lee scene is part of that fictionalised version of events too.

It actually reminds me a bit of Woody Allen’s - What’s Up, Tiger Lily? - he took a Japanese film, removed the original dialogue and completely changed what they were saying. Only Woody Allen could come up with something like that!

 

[speculumphilosophi]

"So I suppose the Bruce Lee scene is part of that fictionalised version of events too."

It was funny but Bruce's family took it as insulting because it poked fun at his expense. Added to that, I thought Kill Bill was a return to the non realistic flying though the air with swords scenario, even if as a spoof.
In Enter The Dragon, you see what Lee actually taught and his philosophy.
I did see the Manson film. In fact, I recall the actual trial.news aired on TV

 

[Frater M.M.]

This clip is amusing but I also think it shows Quentin Tarantino doesn't grasp Bruce Lee's teachings on Jeete Kune Do. In the supposed fight scene here with a stuntman, it couldn't be clear that the actor portraying Bruce is going to run forwards and kick his opponent. It's like the mother of all telegraphing. The stuntman has a good minute to work out his response.
The truth is Bruce choreographed his strikes to fractions of a second. He never would have been as predictable and obvious as here.

Yeah, that is not how I remember Bruce Lee fighting

I've never seen this Tarantino thing (movie?). Was it meant to be humorous or accurate? If accurate, it's failed badly, IMO.

 

[Eldros]

"So I suppose the Bruce Lee scene is part of that fictionalised version of events too."

It was funny but Bruce's family took it as insulting because it poked fun at his expense. Added to that, I thought Kill Bill was a return to the non realistic flying though the air with swords scenario, even if as a spoof.
In Enter The Dragon, you see what Lee actually taught and his philosophy.
I did see the Manson film. In fact, I recall the actual trial.news aired on TV

I get what you mean. The scenes and those unusual sounds were surely part of the package, even though Bruce Lee’s movies had their share of theatrical elements!!
I guess there’s a distinction between making a comedy out of the man and simply making things up for the screen. /
I can see why his family didn’t approve of that..

 

[Firetree]

That was terrible , what was it ? Really bad , Tarentino sucks . Made up bullshit.

Gene LaBell was the only one that bested Lee ( on set ) in a friendly 'wrestle' ... not surprising, if you know LeBell's history . He was probably the starter of MMA

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- its not as unusual as you might think with stunt men and actors - I know I used to work in the film industry .... aside from punch ups outside of work ( usually on location where locals dont like 'arty farty ' film crew drinking in their pub ... that can turn out wrong for them ) its usually a 'friendly' not like Tarentino depicts . On Matrix II Roy Jones Jr. ( Capt Ballard ) ;

and Colin Chou ( Seraph )

had a little go off set ,,, nothing like Traentino depicted up there , These people have to work with each other . Chou threw a lot of techniques at Jones but Jones would just dodge and punch whatever came near him .... a technique in MA called 'strike the extremities ' (or defang the snake ) - not hurtful when the boxer is wearing training gloves .

They had a choreographed film fight but that went into the live-action footage inside the companion video game, '

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( all the ropes and pulleys and silly tricks and dialogue )
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[speculumphilosophi]

It was said Kareem Abdul Jabar could never nail Bruce in sparring and he was his top student. The Tarantino clip just struck me as humorous though. Not only does the Tarantino Lee perform a flying kick you could see coming a mile off, but he even repeats the exact same strategy. Bruces actual teaching was to take the shortest path to impact. He did special weight resistance grip exercises to greatly increase grip and striking power. So, even being very small, his power to weight ratio was exceptional.
I was sad to hear about Chuck Norris passing. He did a terrific job in making martial arts real and something people could relate to.

 

[Eldros]

I can understand Bruce’s approach - use the quickest wayy to make an impact, rather than wasting movement.
It’s almost the complete opposite of the Tarantino version, which makes that scene very funny..

Hearing about Chuck Norris also made me sad.
Back then, I remember renting VHS -tapes to watch a few Bruce Lee and Chuck Norris movies...
Though I was never a huge fan of martial arts movies, those films somehow stayed with me. They were something quite new and different at the time, and they really made Bruce Lee and Chuck Norris seem like legends..

 

[speculumphilosophi]

I can understand Bruce’s approach - use the quickest wayy to make an impact, rather than wasting movement.
It’s almost the complete opposite of the Tarantino version, which makes that scene very funny..

Hearing about Chuck Norris also made me sad.
Back then, I remember renting VHS -tapes to watch a few Bruce Lee and Chuck Norris movies...
Though I was never a huge fan of martial arts movies, those films somehow stayed with me. They were something quite new and different at the time, and they really made Bruce Lee and Chuck Norris seem like legends..

Bingo, we share the same memory. Now, those were the days in the 1980s. Lots of stores had VHS videos and I recall hiring some Chuck Norris movies, especially Force Of One, Hero And The Terror and Silent Rage.
The one I totally loved was The Karate Kid with Ralph Maccio as the skinny kid who moves to California. I recall seeing it on a video rack. The Chuck Norris videos tended to be a cheaper colour rating as they were older films.
Funny thing is, though VHS is long gone, I do still use DVD a lot so I have Enter The Dragon and Lone Wolf Mcquade. Everyone else ditched DVDs and moved to digital. Old habits die hard.

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[Eldros]

Bingo, we share the same memory. Now, those were the days in the 1980s. Lots of stores had VHS videos and I recall hiring some Chuck Norris movies, especially Force Of One, Hero And The Terror and Silent Rage.
The one I totally loved was The Karate Kid with Ralph Maccio as the skinny kid who moves to California. I recall seeing it on a video rack. The Chuck Norris videos tended to be a cheaper colour rating as they were older films.
Funny thing is, though VHS is long gone, I do still use DVD a lot so I have Enter The Dragon and Lone Wolf Mcquade. Everyone else ditched DVDs and moved to digital. Old habits die hard.

Yes! 1986 was quite a year for “super productions” like these. There was The Delta Force with Chuck Norris, Martial Woman 13th Sister, and even The Magic Braid - about a guy who could beat the hell out of everybody with his hair!

Those were definitely the days.