The Arbatel - Pre-work and preparations and modifications

[Snakesandsuns]

Hello all of you interesting folks. Through the various strange turns of life I have become interested in the Arbatel. I have had other projects but am currently reading it (Joseph H. Peterson translation) and plan to read it again more slowly in the future. I had originally been excited to read it along side the Arnemancy podcast and see how a pagan/hermeticist modified it, but from the looks of it that project is defunct.

As such I come before you all with some simple questions (only 4, not 7, I apologize)

1. What pre-work/reading/practices do you recommend for success. I have been meditation and had done some scrying practice in a non summoning context, just concentration. I have never actually invoked so the Arbatel will likely be my first experience.
2. What preparations to you recommend? For example I was thinking about fasting and making the sigil myself (starting at the hour and day the previous week),
3. What modifications have people done? I am not a follower of Jesus or the god of the trinity (no beef though). I do appreciate some of the wisdom of the bible but I also find that in all religions. I am a pantheist, hermetic, druid... thing? I would find it insulting to Jesus to pray to him without being a follower. What modifications to the prayers have any of you done? How successful was it?
4. What Olympic Spirit is recommended to start with? My goal is more to have a 'experience' and to learn more about the nature of Nature & the Divine.

Thank you all for your time.

 

[Spiritual doctor]

Grimoire of arbatel is one of my favorite grimoire just take shower to practice spell from it and be pure from sex for 3 days

 

[Snakesandsuns]

Grimoire of arbatel is one of my favorite grimoire just take shower to practice spell from it and be pure from sex for 3 days

How did spirit/genius/angel from aphorism 14 work out? How do you know it is present before moving on to the summoning?

 

[Toz_]

Grimoire of arbatel is one of my favorite grimoire just take shower to practice spell from it and be pure from sex for 3 days

Abstinence is Christian bullshit. Use a bit of logic: If everything is "god" creation and everything needs to be part of god including demons, then if god is "pure" everything should also be considered pure. Do not roll in the mud trying to keep Christian contradictions and views while doing magic cuz just makes you lose time.

The Septenaries are opinions from the author, everything that is overly religious you can ignore. God this and that ... is all bs nobody has true knowledge how magic, universe and "god" works.

Focus on the nomina barbara, sigils and possible offices of each spirit on the procedure described by the book like Aphorism 17 ahead.

I like to use anti-dusk chalk and draw on the floor the sigils, also you can use the techniques from The Sworn Book of Honorius and Lesser key of solomon to aid you on the invocation. the invocation is better done when you are in a silent place to avoid distractions, you can write the invocation on a paper and read.

Use an app to know the planetary hours.

 

[Spiritual doctor]

Abstinence is Christian bullshit. Use a bit of logic: If everything is "god" creation and everything needs to be part of god including demons, then if god is "pure" everything should also be considered pure. Do not roll in the mud trying to keep Christian contradictions and views while doing magic cuz just makes you lose time.

The Septenaries are opinions from the author, everything that is overly religious you can ignore. God this and that ... is all bs nobody has true knowledge how magic, universe and "god" works.

Focus on the nomina barbara, sigils and possible offices of each spirit on the procedure described by the book like Aphorism 17 ahead.

I like to use anti-dusk chalk and draw on the floor the sigils, also you can use the techniques from The Sworn Book of Honorius and Lesser key of solomon to aid you on the invocation. the invocation is better done when you are in a silent place to avoid distractions, you can write the invocation on a paper and read.

Use an app to know the planetary hours.

My goal is not about invoking barbaric name and drawing sigils only but the goal is getting the desired result so to get the desired result you must follow real magic rules not rules of magical philosophies because philosophy have no end there are thousands philosopher rises in each magical generations so follow the rules of real magic that equal to the rule of universe. Every things in universe have its opposite you can not mix purity with dirtiness both have their own laws and they both have different application according to the law of universe.

 

[Toz_]

My goal is not about invoking barbaric name and drawing sigils only but the goal is getting the desired result so to get the desired result you must follow real magic rules not rules of magical philosophies because philosophy have no end there are thousands philosopher rises in each magical generations so follow the rules of real magic that equal to the rule of universe. Every things in universe have its opposite you can not mix purity with dirtiness both have their own laws and they both have different application according to the law of universe.

There is no rules. If you think in a certain way, why would chaos magick (psychological paradigm) work and "spirit" magick (spiritual paradigm) also work? If you start to use logic on magick you will be able to reduce it to its essence, belief itself, not some objective law "out there." Same thing happens when you apply logic to dualism, this idea that everything in the universe has an opposite. Science doesn't back this up: in physics, charge is a spectrum from negative to positive with zero right in the middle, not two rival forces; temperature is just molecular motion, so "cold" isn't a thing fighting "hot," it's just less energy, meaning "cold" doesn't technically exist as its own entity; even matter and antimatter aren't opposites in the poetic sense, they're mirror states that annihilate into energy when they meet, not eternal rivals locked in balance. And not every "thing" in the universe has an opposite, some things exist on their own, like a rock or a number. What sound like opposites are usually two ends of a scale, or one is really just the absence of the other, like dark being the absence of light, not light's rival. So "opposite" is more about how our minds sort things than a real law of nature or physics. Try to abandon metaphysical dualism, same way you'd abandon a fixed paradigm in magick, and see things in a different perspective.