The Great Societal Crack-up Is Coming

[Asteriskos]

We can only hope that mining asteroids for resources becomes a thing. Or even just the moon, the biggest and closest rock to us.

Maybe both, re-direct asteroids to HIT the moon, and go gather the resources. High-tech 'lumber-jacking' with asteroids instead of trees.

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re-direct asteroids to HIT the moon, and go gather the resources

I'm good with mining the moon. Fragmenting it with asteroids though is "too much of a good thing" IMO. I mean what would Lovers do?
Not to mention the gravitational anomalies and stuff? Lastly, that polarized moonlight in the woods whispers "Magic/K" to me!

 

[Accipeveldare]

We are fast approaching a time that will be incredibly 'uncomfortable' for most people.

If you have any striving for transcendence now is the time to kick that into highest gear

Heed this or not, you won't be left unscatched. Good luck everyone.

I have ten years worth of weed and pipe tobbaco stored in my attic. Am i ready?

 

[Sedim Haba]

Post automatically merged: Saturday at 6:41 PM

I'm good with mining the moon. Fragmenting it with asteroids though is "too much of a good thing" IMO. I mean what would Lovers do?
Not to mention the gravitational anomalies and stuff? Lastly, that polarized moonlight in the woods whispers "Magic/K" to me!

no no, I mean they slam into the backside of the moon, and the pieces of asteroid are what we mine.
No asteroid so big that it would cause actual damage, that wouldn't be safe.
Just rocks the size of what hits earth every DAY and are large enough to not burn up all the way.

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I have ten years worth of weed and pipe tobbaco stored in my attic. Am i ready?

Yep, good barter material, for sure. Get what else you need that way.

 

[Asteriskos]

I have ten years worth of weed and pipe tobbaco stored in my attic. Am i ready?

Yep, good start!

Yep, good barter material, for sure. Get what else you need that way.

Just plain smart!

no no, I mean they slam into the backside of the moon, and the pieces of asteroid are what we mine.
No asteroid so big that it would cause actual damage, that wouldn't be safe.
Just rocks the size of what hits earth every DAY and are large enough to not burn up all the way.

Hmmm... We might just be able to pull this one off, warm up the Silver Darts!

 

[Beyond Everything]

The last time that I checked a certain "Archdruid" had summed the state of affairs something like this: We've got somewhere around 50 -150 years till the resources (rare earths, food, water, et al) are gone or hoarded by the PTB. This will result in a reversion to a "feudal" form of society initially with the "elite" running the show.

That archdruid promised Brexit would be an economic boon to the UK economy, which is now badly faltering. He also said we would run out of oil by now. I could find another 2 dozen wrong predictions that arch-oracle has proclaimed...more to the point, our trouble timeline (not for resource depletion, but everything else) is very much bearing down quicker than 150 years lol

 

[Asteriskos]

That archdruid promised Brexit would be an economic boon to the UK economy, which is now badly faltering. He also said we would run out of oil by now. I could find another 2 dozen wrong predictions that arch-oracle has proclaimed...more to the point, our trouble timeline (not for resource depletion, but everything else) is very much bearing down quicker than 150 years lol

Yeah, that's why I never had much "faith" in what he has to say. For me to get excited I "gotta have faith"! I'm as "perceptive" as the next practitioner, I'm also interested in the general opinions of our "demographic" on this stuff. So far though no real large disturbances in the "ether" which can be interpreted in as many ways as there are practitioners, go figure.

 

[frater_pan]

I've been hearing about the impending collapse of everything for decades. The shit will never hit the fan. There is no fan, just more piles of shit.

Not never. There have been many resets during our lifetimes but most only affect a small number of people. For example many millions of people never recovered from the 2008/2009 Great Recession and lost everything. Some people had nothing during that period and already didn't know it occurred. Many millions of people die prematurely each year from violence and disease. Syria and Iraq are different counties from what they were at points in the past (2024 ended the Assad regime in Syria, 2003 ended the Saddam Hussein era). The collapse of everything is happening all around us, but separately and slowly. Then after it happens, there's the recognition and we can point to a single point in time when everything seemingly changed at once (once the change was inevitable).

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That archdruid promised Brexit would be an economic boon to the UK economy, which is now badly faltering. He also said we would run out of oil by now. I could find another 2 dozen wrong predictions that arch-oracle has proclaimed...more to the point, our trouble timeline (not for resource depletion, but everything else) is very much bearing down quicker than 150 years lol

That archdruid is a right winger and interprets economics through that filter. His divination might need a bit of improvement. Nonetheless he is right about resource depletion although as noted it is coming faster than 150 yrs from now.

 

[Asteriskos]

Not never. There have been many resets during our lifetimes but most only affect a small number of people. For example many millions of people never recovered from the 2008/2009 Great Recession and lost everything. Some people had nothing during that period and already didn't know it occurred. Many millions of people die prematurely each year from violence and disease. Syria and Iraq are different counties from what they were at points in the past (2024 ended the Assad regime in Syria, 2003 ended the Saddam Hussein era). The collapse of everything is happening all around us, but separately and slowly. Then after it happens, there's the recognition and we can point to a single point in time when everything seemingly changed at once (once the change was inevitable).

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That archdruid is a right winger and interprets economics through that filter. His divination might need a bit of improvement. Nonetheless he is right about resource depletion although as noted it is coming faster than 150 yrs from now.

 

[Beyond Everything]

Nonetheless he is right about resource depletion although as noted it is coming faster than 150 yrs from now.

Resource depletion is obviously a problem...or would be if it wasn't already outstripped chronologically by climate change, which is being outstripped by political/economic 'considerations'

 

[Asteriskos]

Resource depletion is obviously a problem...or would be if it wasn't already outstripped chronologically by climate change, which is being outstripped by political/economic 'considerations'

Everything here is interwoven in numerous ways. Resources, economics, politics. Fuck, why not add Ignorance and Stupidity? Oh yeah, I forgot Greed and everything that makes better. It's going to be a while before all this B$ gets sorted out. It's difficult to get more than two or three people on the same goddamned page at any given time?

 

[Kepler]

The Mistress of the World Has Died.​

The populations of the world are realizing that there's little left to reason with in Magatland after the brain death of USA. That definitely caused a sudden crack up in the Earth that coincided with the aggressive appearance of magat orcs, looking at the former US through the incisively accurate metaphoric behavior of Tolkien lensed orc races.
That the magats shrill commandment of "join us or suffer!" in Magatland and "Gimmie" to everyone else has made it increasingly plain to the world that all magats are singleminded, cannot be reasoned with and have to be destroyed down to the ideology like other examples of such thinking in the past. It's pretty obvious they're not planning on stopping or taking their hands off the wheel of gov easy in democratic elections after what they've done, are doing, and aiming to do. Still remains to be seen, but benefit of the doubt is gone. Delay tactics transparent.
Fortunately, as orcs are, magats think themselves greater than they are and they think of their opponents less than they are in reality. Magats are Uvalde brave and Mystic prepared with vision that extends to the next greedy whim and superficial care from their self-glorifying echochamber.

That the US would kill itself in this way shouldn't have been a surprise to the world considering all the signs of its degradation and self-destruction against its own historic ideals and better nature.

 

[Asteriskos]

Something is brewing on the world stage, vagaries abound, talks of rearranging political geographic borders? It isn't just the US, Europe and the UK are a mess too, the Middle East and the Orient" such as they are sure as hell aren't free of problems. What does that leave if you want to think there's someplace where Divine Wisdom is the New Normal? What do you think is going to Happen?

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Oh yeah, The WEC is happening, how many of you think that's in Your best interest?

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The WEC

The WEF

 

[Accipeveldare]

Due to the current situation in the USA. (Where i live) I have noticed a lot of people want to leave the country. A lot of people are talking about Amsterdam, Denmark, New Zealand, etc. However, i have heard the most about Canada. Now i dont want to just make assumptions and say that Canada is a utopia. But the way people are talking about it makes it sure seem like one.

 

[Asteriskos]

A lot of people are talking about Amsterdam, Denmark, New Zealand, etc. However, i have heard the most about Canada.

That's interesting. Lots of people put their mouth where their money ought to be, how many actually do Anything. real small percentage.

 

[frater_pan]

The Mistress of the World Has Died.​

The populations of the world are realizing that there's little left to reason with in Magatland after the brain death of USA. ...

That the US would kill itself in this way shouldn't have been a surprise to the world considering all the signs of its degradation and self-destruction against its own historic ideals and better nature.

The US is only one country. The rest of the world has to give up on it for now, and advance humanity (a tough road, given that the US has actually saved the world at least twice, but it failed to save the world in most ways after 1991, although some Americans, often immigrants to the US DID also save the world [mRNA for example]).

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Due to the current situation in the USA. (Where i live) I have noticed a lot of people want to leave the country. A lot of people are talking about Amsterdam, Denmark, New Zealand, etc. However, i have heard the most about Canada. Now i dont want to just make assumptions and say that Canada is a utopia. But the way people are talking about it makes it sure seem like one.

Often the people who leave the US for other countries are US citizens who were born and at least partly raised outside the US. This is a limited population. There are some people outside this group but not that many.

 

[Kepler]

The US is only one country. The rest of the world has to give up on it for now, and advance humanity (a tough road, given that the US has actually saved the world at least twice, but it failed to save the world in most ways after 1991, although some Americans, often immigrants to the US DID also save the world [mRNA for example]).

Revolt from the monolith come back to the village. - Penda's Fen

The US was a largely voluntarily agreed upon monolith in the unipolar world. Thus the neoclassical reference to the Mistress of the World and the suicide of the US hegemony due to the actions of its own administration in the last year.

The articulate, pragmatic speech at Davos today on middle countries in the new multi-polar world village is one for the records in a good way. Self-reflective, honest, informative, and clear. And an ethical roadmap.
"Middle powers must act together, because if we're not at the table we're on the menu."

English starts 90s.

 

[Asteriskos]

The Canadian PM talked a good talk here. I was surprised that it attempted to minimize "Globalism" a term that makes lots of people wary. I mean the WEF is the driving force behind "Globalism" in the opinion of lots of folks. Still it was "interesting".

 

[Firetree]

My view is that for some time we have been in 'The Slow Apocalypse '. Like the (false) analogy of the boiled frog ; it slowly gets so bad that many don't realize it's happening ... they just 'get used to it ' .

I won't put down the details as most already know about them ; Resources, pollution, diseases, the oceans and poles , changing magnetic field, evaporation of general intelligence, 'development' of more dangerous weapons & IMC, unhealthy diets and food supplies , social media, AI ... micro plastics in yer blood and brain ! Etc.

Okay , I will 'go on' about one of those ;

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[Swampdweller900]

I certainly agree that a sort of crack-up is coming

Also, I'm 100% in this camp:

I've been hearing about the impending collapse of everything for decades. The shit will never hit the fan.

Somewhere in the middle is the truth.

For 3 generations after WWII, most of the Western world has been pretty comfortable and well-off. Prosperity, wars not where we lived, and technological advancement. The baseline for "things cracking up" is simply disturbing the post-WWII stability. Clearly, that's happening and it's too far gone to stop or change.

However, this is going to be exactly like I've seen a dozen times across Africa: not SHTF, but The Crumbles. A slow descent into poorer living standards, higher costs for things not made near you, and worse outcomes overall.

Historically, we see a paragraph in a book. "SHTF from 1937-1940" and don't realize how looooooooooong that actually took.

Nigeria, Burundi, Zimbabwe, Tanzania, Ivory Coast, Burkina Faso (according to some), Zambia, Sierra Leone - all places that at one point enjoyed a really good standard of living. Things were getting better! The post-Colonial shackles were shed and it was OK! But then over time, one after another, a single leader showed up and threw things out of balance and corruption and exploitation were the name of the game. Force and power the only authorities. Burundi did this 10 years ago and guess what place is still a wreck? Burundi.

And this is our future. We are no better. And these kinds of changes are permanent. There is no going back because by the time you realize the old world is gone, everything else has changed too much. What has to happen is the generation that remembers the good times needs to grow old and leave power, trying to hold onto life they imagined as an 18-year old with a full head of hair and working member by telling kids what they can and can't do and stockpiling money they'll never spend. Just ask people in the Balkans how much they almost all LOVED Tito, and how those were the good times. Sure, if you were Slavic between 1945 and 1990. A lot of people wouldn't agree with that, especially the Bosnians.

Per my Duty to Warn diary post, this part of the year is going to be bad. It's not done being bad yet. The summer will chill out a bit, and next fall also bad. Gird your loins, friends. The S is H-ing TF and since we're in the middle of it, we don't see it happening because it's in real time. It's possible that no one reading these words will ever, ever see a world again as good as we had it in 2012 or 2013. Recovery isn't an option when the forest has burned down. You can't rebuild 400-year old trees, you can only plant seeds as a gift to people you'll never meet.

 

[Ohana]

When everything is going bad doing those little things like planting seeds that you won't ever see can kind of help. Its a great coping mechanism for when things go really bad. It can boost self esteem.

As well as acknowledging when things are going really bad. I know from my time in therapy and isolation that naming the emotion and acknowledging it can really help. Hiding from emotions doesn't help all the time.

I know I procrastinate a lot and by procrastinating I start to procrastinate more. But procrastinating is because of anxiety so I get more anxious so I keep procrastinating and its really bad habit. So maybe by taking some time to journal or acknowledge the emotions the western world going a sideways brings can help.

Or focusing on writing, dancing, or even doing chores. Sometimes chores can calm me down. Yeah.