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What are spirits/demons/deities connected with Vampirism? I'm wondering about which one should be considered connected as well as how should I discern if a being could be considered vampiric.

I would like to know what beings are considered deities or spirits of vampirism one can contact and work with.
I already know that there is Lilith and Aset (Isis, Sekhmet)
In one group we think that Hel (or Hela, Norse) could be considered vampiric queen as she is half dead, half alive, which fits well.
But I would like to know if there are more such beings or deities...

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I will definitely also take a look at Dracula. (the vamp myth being, not historical one) It might be only thoughtform, but considering the unfading interest and constant creation of movies, series and games a lot of energy there, wouldn't surprise me if it were already quite conscious and could be considered demigod.
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Just a small observation, as I'm thinking about this list; Isis, Sekhmet, Lilith, potentialy Hel... well, they are all females. That is unhealthy, or at least unbalanced.
 
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they are all females. That is unhealthy
Maybe an unpopular opinion, but vampirism is Feminine in nature (I mean this in the most basic way as it is about taking rather than giving). Maybe demons or Saints / gods associated with homosexuality can be something to look in to.
 

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Maybe an unpopular opinion, but vampirism is Feminine in nature (I mean this in the most basic way as it is about taking rather than giving)
Thinking about it, I disagree with you. I see where you come from and I've heard myself that Vampirism is feminine from multiple sources, but the reason why doesn't really fit.

Here's why: You are of course corect, that it is about recieving enrgy rather than giving, but it is not passive recieving. Vampire is not the pasive, feminine, party in the energy excange. He's the one in control who actively dominates and takes away. And active polarity is masculine.
 

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I disagree with you
And I disagree with you 😋
The direction of the current of energy is (in my opinion) what determined if either one of the participants is the positive / male or negative / female.
However. I don't consider myself a vampire so I won't try to pretend I know what's what.
Let's agree to disagree then.
 

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Yeah, we disagree, but I like this kind of disagreeing, when we show each other our arguments so we can see them as well as others who can make their own judment.

So for you it is about the way the energy flows, for me it is about active and pasive. Fine, we disagree, but we can agree that both our opinions are valid. I definitely see your opinion to be valid though disagreeing with it. Simply it doesn't work for me that way.

It's interesting how relatively simple concept of polarities can get pretty complex and contradictory when put to use and practice. 😁
 

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In terms of vampirism, we can consider the ancient Apennine god Noctuliyus, or the Dacian Zalmoxis, (or Zalmo). However, the vampiric nature of the mentioned gods is more a matter of recent speculation than historical fact, but there are certainly some indications. I regret that my contribution to this topic is more of a hint than a relevant and reasoned consideration. Maybe someone else knows more about it.
 

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@Morell,

I've done research on this a Long time ago (not specific to deities), but energetic vampirism itself, and I talked a little bit about that in a journal.
If you're so inclined see my journal below:

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As for deities that encourage (or at least don't discourage) Human Energetic Vampirism I will venture beings of the class of Lilith, and all her cohorts, but bear in mind these beings may manifest as either gender. You may also find this interesting:

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I engaged in this type of research 'Years" ago, this is something I Can Talk about from experience! :cool:

Back in the "day" a little Consenting energy play with an attractive Witch or Sorceress, well Yeah! ;)

And... Last but not Least: I Do Not encourage Vampirism upon the Unconsenting, but... I do neutralize it when I encounter it.
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Thinking about it, I disagree with you. I see where you come from and I've heard myself that Vampirism is feminine from multiple sources, but the reason why doesn't really fit.

Here's why: You are of course corect, that it is about recieving enrgy rather than giving, but it is not passive recieving. Vampire is not the pasive, feminine, party in the energy excange. He's the one in control who actively dominates and takes away. And active polarity is masculine.
Discarnate beings, especially of this type are not confined to "gender", they Can and Do come in either or both forms! It depends a great deal upon how (the person being vampirised) Perceives them subliminally. Things are different upon the Etheric / Astral levels. They must be able to interact upon he Etheric in order to engage your Etheric form. An Incarnate vampire would likely extend threads / cords to find a juicy place to penetrate your energy (etheric) body. Etheric vision is not difficult to develop, you can see this pretty plainly with practice.
 
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Discarnate beings, especially of this type are not confined to "gender", they Can and Do come in either or both forms! It depends a great deal upon how (the person being vampirised) Perceives them subliminally. Things are different upon the Etheric / Astral levels. They must be able to interact upon he Etheric in order to engage your Etheric form. An Incarnate vampire would likely extend threads / cords to find a juicy place to penetrate your energy (etheric) body. Etheric vision is not difficult to develop, you can see this pretty plainly with practice.
You've got me there! I completely forgot about this fact! Very good point.

I will take a look on the sources you posted, thanks.
 

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Maybe an unpopular opinion, but vampirism is Feminine in nature (I mean this in the most basic way as it is about taking rather than giving). Maybe demons or Saints / gods associated with homosexuality can be something to look in to.
Not only an unpopular opinion but also mostly false, there is no solid EVIDENCE that vampirism is feminine or have genre (idk why people these days asociate everything to genres to fullfill their lack of identity) but also there is nothing in ancient text who asociate Lilith to vampirism she is a Mesopotamian deity and there is no sacred text or even rituals who asociate her with vampirism, also a fun fact the only deitys asociated with vampirism in ancient text are both masculine one is Belial from the original Goetia who is also asociated with both lycantrophy and vampirism and the other is the Egyptian Set, the asociation with feminism or homosexuality in modern "vampirism" wich is my opinion is straight garbage full of goth teenagers living in their parents basement comes only from hollywood and for roleplayers, nothing to do with the real damn thing wich any of them survive if they really have the knowledge about it and the balls to practice it
 

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@Morell ,

Here's another direction you might be interested in checking out. Within the Greek paradigm & vernacular there are some so-called "vampiric beings" referred to as "Lamia", maybe search on that for some info. The Greeks, well they've been around a While, and in the Graeco-Egyptian
phase amassed a lot of concepts. The "Lamia" may as well be Known through out Eastern Europe and Western Asia, other members here native to those areas would know better than me if that's correct? Interesting form of the phenomena though! :unsure:
 

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I'm starting to think that I've made a mistake in searching for Vampiric gods. @Wintruz wrote excellent text concerning mixing of Nobles and Vampirism, which formed its modern expression. Made me think a lot. Maybe it's practically useless to look in the past for something that is not there. There are roots, historical ancestry is there, but it only lead to birth or forming of what I see today as vampirism.

Perhaps it is true that all I need I can find within, if I follow my own path of vampirism...

But I thank everyone who helped me looking. Thanks for your tips.
 

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I would have a look at N.D. Blackwood's "Encyclopedia of Wamphyrism" for a look at the deities and more popular spirits in Vampiric history and lore. For example, he not only comes with what you expect like Noctulius, and Zalmoxis like before mentioned, but he also sites Nergal, Tiamat, and Pazuzu etc. .👍🏾
 

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Ereshkigal and Baba Yaga are two I'd think of
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Found it. Chernobog. A Slavic deity.

Nelapsi and upír are beings from Czech and Slavic mythology associated with vampires.
 
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Greetings to all, I found some interesting information here in a unique document - Word code 770 - That is, these creatures as spirits can be Summoned by Magic...
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Upír and Vampír literally means Vampire. Same term in different languages.
Cool. I just was going off some stuff I read. It sounded like upír was a particular type of vampire.

edit: this a Wikipedia link not exactly the best source but I'm tired it's early where I'm at and I don't feel like looking for a better source:
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What are spirits/demons/deities connected with Vampirism? I'm wondering about which one should be considered connected as well as how should I discern if a being could be considered vampiric.
Vampires are living dead, they have no soul.
They're self-sufficient and need no gods or spirits nor do they depend on them.

I personally totally dismiss Lilith and Aset and similar spiritual ideas that IMO have nothing to do with vampirism, this are modern inventions with an unknown goal, probably to revitalize vampirism or to give new view about it.

For me vampirism is something that has to be in complete opposite of Christianity, I can't tell what exactly that is though and it may be better so because vampirism is truly mystical and uncovered unlike most of the occult that is well established.

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Baba Yaga ate children lol, not a vampire.
 

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Baba Yaga ate children lol, not a vampire
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There's a ton of myths about her and not everyone has traditional views of deities. Also the term vampire at least in English has changed a lot over the years. To me she seems like a deity you could work with regarding vampirism. In my experience she can be very useful to work with in terms of blood magick and energy work. I'm not saying she'd be my first pick but just cuz a deity isn't historically associated with something doesn't mean they can't be in modern times or someone can connect her to it. For example I work with Gula Bau and associate her with the kitchen and cooking even tho she historically hasn't been. It's due to my own experience and interpretations of her.

Really it's up to the OP in how they'd see a deity and how that deity appears to them in terms of working with them.
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Also I should point out in Slavic folklore she's heavily implied to be undead. I mean she's even called bony legs and depicted as skeletal. And her house has no windows in some myths. Supposedly was created in some myths by the devil himself. Also she didn't just eat children but that's aside the point as some undead vampires only ate children in mythology such as the langsuir
 
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For me vampirism is something that has to be in complete opposite of Christianity, I can't tell what exactly that is though and it may be better so because vampirism is truly mystical and uncovered unlike most of the occult that is well established.
I like this. Though I'm not sure about the opposite to Christianity. Mainly because there is not single Christianity. And even when it was forming, it was syncretism and had many branches.

But this gives me that thought, that Christianity has specific beginning and end, That would make Vampirism being it's opposite completely timeless and eternal.
 
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