What do you feel energy as?

[Shade]

Just a general question, what do you personally feel/experience energy as? A warmth, a tingling or even a “ZZZ” sensation, in your best words how would you describe the way you personally feel it? If you care to bring it up where and when did you first notice being able to feel it when others had no clue what you were talking about or did they? How would you describe it to someone who never has experienced the sensation?
The point of this discussion is to see if there is any cross over between the way a person “feels” or “experiences” the sensation of energy and what their main purpose for pursuing magick was. Or if there is any correlation in experiences.

Discuss anything you want relating to your experiences with energy or how it may have affected the way you view/approached magick as a whole or any correlations you think it may have to your specific practice. Where do you feel it in your body more than other places? Do LHP and RHP people have the same experience in regards to where they experience it more or less?

** What are your experiences in
What were your expectations going into it if you did so knowingly and did they differ?

Let’s find out

v v v

 

[Amadeus]

I can give you some examples what happens when I'm doing my energy work.
Early days when I started with the religious and energy, mantra work. I remember feeling tingling or heat in hands and the forehead. Then the sensations got stronger, more tingling.

At some point something exploded open. Tingling turned into waves, more waves, then even more waves.
Something exploded even more open. Some time went by, waves turned into something more blazing, buzzing. Like a stream, river, something that touches your mind. As if while doing the ritual work, you have a stream of water flowing through your mind.

During the experimentations, energy work, not sure exactly when but I learned to distinguish the energies. I feel that I can "taste" them with my mind, I guess it's the third eye giving this effect...?

Tingling, heat, waves, hot or cold sensations, on the forehead, top of head, sides of head. A stream of water like effect. Followed by ecstastic states of bliss, mental highs, effects similar or stronger than what drugs give.

Other energies, cemetery. I wish I could find the words how to describe this one. The effects make me feel numb, high, serene but in a weird way. I honestly dont know with what to compare it. There were some times when I felt the taste of soil for days after going there, that was quite unpleasant and slightly annoying, fortunately it only happened a few times. The energy though, one of a kind ... hmm, rough, deep, extremely strong, with a weird flavor, "taste".

I also feel something strange when I use the tarot cards, another one I just can't find words for. A strange "taste" of specific energy that I feel through my mind.

You mentioned the main purpose. I wanted to experience special states of mind, unlock power, abilities, psychic skills, something strong and powerful. This gave me the motivation to start energy work, study of magic. Craving for knowledge, understanding, finding the purpose of everything.


Over the years I taught some people how to open the senses to get the same stuff going. They all described the same sensations, a champagne bottle exploding, senses unlocked further, another explosion like effect in the third eye & mind, waves, river or ocean of energy, with specific tastes, feelings of high, states of bliss.

 

[Shade]

I can give you some examples what happens when I'm doing my energy work.
Early days when I started with the religious and energy, mantra work. I remember feeling tingling or heat in hands and the forehead. Then the sensations got stronger, more tingling.

At some point something exploded open. Tingling turned into waves, more waves, then even more waves.
Something exploded even more open. Some time went by, waves turned into something more blazing, buzzing. Like a stream, river, something that touches your mind. As if while doing the ritual work, you have a stream of water flowing through your mind.

During the experimentations, energy work, not sure exactly when but I learned to distinguish the energies. I feel that I can "taste" them with my mind, I guess it's the third eye giving this effect...?

Tingling, heat, waves, hot or cold sensations, on the forehead, top of head, sides of head. A stream of water like effect. Followed by ecstastic states of bliss, mental highs, effects similar or stronger than what drugs give.

Other energies, cemetery. I wish I could find the words how to describe this one. The effects make me feel numb, high, serene but in a weird way. I honestly dont know with what to compare it. There were some times when I felt the taste of soil for days after going there, that was quite unpleasant and slightly annoying, fortunately it only happened a few times. The energy though, one of a kind ... hmm, rough, deep, extremely strong, with a weird flavor, "taste".

I also feel something strange when I use the tarot cards, another one I just can't find words for. A strange "taste" of specific energy that I feel through my mind.

You mentioned the main purpose. I wanted to experience special states of mind, unlock power, abilities, psychic skills, something strong and powerful. This gave me the motivation to start energy work, study of magic. Craving for knowledge, understanding, finding the purpose of everything.


Over the years I taught some people how to open the senses to get the same stuff going. They all described the same sensations, a champagne bottle exploding, senses unlocked further, another explosion like effect in the third eye & mind, waves, river or ocean of energy, with specific tastes, feelings of high, states of bliss.

Thanks for your experiences! I always thought of the “wave” feeling as more of a manipulation aspect. I was really thrown aback upon reading Anton Mesmer referred to it as a “magnetic fluid” he even at one point used magnets but later took them out of his practice (disclaimer: I haven’t read his book but the claim of him using solid magnets for at least a brief period to help heal “misbehaving magnetic fluid” seems to be known)

 

[HoldAll]

Thanks for your experiences! I always thought of the “wave” feeling as more of a manipulation aspect. I was really thrown aback upon reading Anton Mesmer referred to it as a “magnetic fluid” he even at one point used magnets but later took them out of his practice (disclaimer: I haven’t read his book but the claim of him using solid magnets for at least a brief period to help heal “misbehaving magnetic fluid” seems to be known)

Here is an update to magnets & supernaturnal experienes I came across only yesterday:

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, esp. the "the Device that incorporates solenoids placed over the temporal lobe", so magnets seem to have their uses in magic after all.

I only ever feel energy as warmth in the body areas or 'channels" I concentrate on, not in specific locations or people. Cemetaries, even old ones, for example, don't feel spooky to me, I'd have to make an effort to deceive myself and imagine the shades of dead people lingering there. Sometimes when going for a walk, I pass two ancient trees that have grown together at their bases long ago and wonder whether I'm supposed to feel something special about them, they look so bizarre... others probably would sense two dryads locked in a passionate embrace and whatnot but I'm somewhat paranoid to start obsessing over something I don't genuinely feel, so I'm holding out for spontaneous, unmistakable sensations that could only be interpreted as supernatural energies and not be explained by autosuggestion.

 

[Pyrographer]

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Just a general question, what do you personally feel/experience energy as?
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When things are going right, something similar to runners high. Or the point on a long hike that you start to feel like you could go on forever.

When things are going wrong, it's like a prolonged fight or flight response. A feeling akin to greening out.

 

[Shade]

Here is an update to magnets & supernaturnal experienes I came across only yesterday:

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, esp. the "the Device that incorporates solenoids placed over the temporal lobe", so magnets seem to have their uses in magic after all.

I only ever feel energy as warmth in the body areas or 'channels" I concentrate on, not in specific locations or people. Cemetaries, even old ones, for example, don't feel spooky to me, I'd have to make an effort to deceive myself and imagine the shades of dead people lingering there. Sometimes when going for a walk, I pass two ancient trees that have grown together at their bases long ago and wonder whether I'm supposed to feel something special about them, they look so bizarre... others probably would sense two dryads locked in a passionate embrace and whatnot but I'm somewhat paranoid to start obsessing over something I don't genuinely feel, so I'm holding out for spontaneous, unmistakable sensations that could only be interpreted as supernatural energies and not be explained by autosuggestion.

I thought I read somewhere they used those helmets on astronauts to see if leaving earths magnetic field would effect them in any way and they got that transcendental feeling but it may have just been lore. That is interesting though thanks for the link I couldn’t find any reference to them or even know the device had a name in my previous post so I didn’t even mention it.

Thanks for the info! That is the most reasonable way to go about it. Being a chaos magician you often have to force a belief and the distinction between truth and reality can actually get blurred in your own mind, sometimes in a severe and consequential way if you don’t pull back quick enough, so I 100% respect that. I never did that with energy and have been cautious in that respect as well. Luckily I never really had to force it.

The more I think about it the more sense it makes that Mesmer referred to energy as “magnetic”. As for feeling the energy of a place or thing outside myself I find that difficult as well. I’m interested in seeing if anyone eventually comments on that aspect of it because I’m definitely curious.

 

[HoldAll]

The more I think about it the more sense it makes that Mesmer referred to energy as “magnetic”. As for feeling the energy of a place or thing outside myself I find that difficult as well. I’m interested in seeing if anyone eventually comments on that aspect of it because I’m definitely curious.

It's also because of that NewAge crowd I used to associate with - often they'd say "This room has bad energy!" which mostly meant that they didn't like the interior decoration , so I'm careful with that. Castaneda talks in one of his books with his experience of finding a 'power spot' (in a small area of no importance, not like places of power), a spot where you sense an inexplicable feeling of warmth and well-being. I sometimes try this when looking for a place to sit down on a meadow or a beach, for example.

 

[Shade]

Castaneda talks in one of his books with his experience of finding a 'power spot' (in a small area of no importance, not like places of power), a spot where you sense an inexplicable feeling of warmth and well-being. I sometimes try this when looking for a place to sit down on a meadow or a beach, for example.

Hmm that’s interesting to know, so it might have some merit in that respect. I wonder if he was on a ley line.

 

[DarkHermit]

Just a general question, what do you personally feel/experience energy as? A warmth, a tingling or even a “ZZZ” sensation, in your best words how would you describe the way you personally feel it? If you care to bring it up where and when did you first notice being able to feel it when others had no clue what you were talking about or did they? How would you describe it to someone who never has experienced the sensation?
The point of this discussion is to see if there is any cross over between the way a person “feels” or “experiences” the sensation of energy and what their main purpose for pursuing magick was. Or if there is any correlation in experiences.

Discuss anything you want relating to your experiences with energy or how it may have affected the way you view/approached magick as a whole or any correlations you think it may have to your specific practice. Where do you feel it in your body more than other places? Do LHP and RHP people have the same experience in regards to where they experience it more or less?

** What are your experiences in
What were your expectations going into it if you did so knowingly and did they differ?

Let’s find out

v v v

IN my experinece dark energy can be hot. and light energy is cold.

 

[OberonFromTheHills]

Cemetaries, even old ones, for example, don't feel spooky to me, I'd have to make an effort to deceive myself and imagine the shades of dead people lingering there.

Technically most cemeteries aren't haunted. They are places were nothing grow.

There's a lot of decay eating spirits in those places that make the """""haunting by shades of the dead"""""" not a one fit all case for such places.

People who see spirits in their most likely see the memories of the people who are there (or the decay eaters)

Their tomb may work as an altar/portal to call them when people go put flowers or when magician evoke them.... But i very doubt they stay permanently in the cemetery.

As for the trees and the dryads. I think they are a way to personify the tree. I'm not saying they aren't humanoid fae like creatures in the forest. But most of those creatures are just anthropomorphism to give shape to wild entities that may no have an appearance to start with ahha.

 

[IllusiveOwl]

Energy, to me, is experienced in mostly the head and heart. It doesn't feel like any of the standard five senses, it is similar to a moving pressure that acts like a flame, with my head being the wick. It constantly swirls and moves and can be directed with intention, but to the new and fearful, it can be as terrible as being on a raft in the middle of a stormy ocean.

It is less focus and more broad, clear, ego-less awareness that pairs best with controlling It. I have experienced several 'explosions' of Energy throughout my body of unparalleled bliss, like my whole being was as buoyant and hollow as a bubble full of light, and there was nothing but total freedom, control, and peace... though this has only happened when paired with mystical epiphanies that fade with time.

Energy has always been a secondary focus for me though, the spectre behind the sensations that directs and observes has always appeared to be the obvious key

 

[Accipeveldare]

Just a general question, what do you personally feel/experience energy as? A warmth, a tingling or even a “ZZZ” sensation, in your best words how would you describe the way you personally feel it? If you care to bring it up where and when did you first notice being able to feel it when others had no clue what you were talking about or did they? How would you describe it to someone who never has experienced the sensation?
The point of this discussion is to see if there is any cross over between the way a person “feels” or “experiences” the sensation of energy and what their main purpose for pursuing magick was. Or if there is any correlation in experiences.

Discuss anything you want relating to your experiences with energy or how it may have affected the way you view/approached magick as a whole or any correlations you think it may have to your specific practice. Where do you feel it in your body more than other places? Do LHP and RHP people have the same experience in regards to where they experience it more or less?

** What are your experiences in
What were your expectations going into it if you did so knowingly and did they differ?

Let’s find out

v v v

For me its sort of warm AND tingly at once. And depending on the kind of energy I may feel ill or rejuvenated after absorbing it. For example, if I absorb energy from someone who is having a bad day I might feel like someone ruined my high (You know what I'm talking about if you've ever smoked weed before) and if I absorb energy from someone who is doing good I feel rejuvenated, happy, energetic, and even sometimes get a little dizzy (in a good way) from the sheer goodness of the energy

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For me its sort of warm AND tingly at once. And depending on the kind of energy I may feel ill or rejuvenated after absorbing it. For example, if I absorb energy from someone who is having a bad day I might feel like someone ruined my high (You know what I'm talking about if you've ever smoked weed before) and if I absorb energy from someone who is doing good I feel rejuvenated, happy, energetic, and even sometimes get a little dizzy (in a good way) from the sheer goodness of the energy

It's like an occult way of getting high if you think about it.

 

[Shade]

You know what I'm talking about if you've ever smoked weed before)

Bro this is an occult forum, and this is not a medicinal or drug thread… (just messing with ya)
That being said I think like 95%+ of us probably have smoked bud, or done some sort of psychedelic so I get where you’re coming from.
but what you described…
It sounds like you are talking about the Psychic aspect of focusing, connecting, both energy wise and a somewhat understanding on an empathetic level (as that’s the easiest way to connect to their energy)
Epitome of a psychic vamp or the process in which a psychic vamp can absorb energy at a distance rather than by drawing it in by wasting your tine communicating. In this process a psychic vamp will focus on their energy field, make a connection sort of inhale through the mouth and exert that stagnant energy out the nose.
Correct?

 

[Accipeveldare]

Bro this is an occult forum, and this is not a medicinal or drug thread… (just messing with ya)
That being said I think like 95%+ of us probably have smoked bud, or done some sort of psychedelic so I get where you’re coming from.
but what you described…
It sounds like you are talking about the Psychic aspect of focusing, connecting, both energy wise and a somewhat understanding on an empathetic level (as that’s the easiest way to connect to their energy)
Epitome of a psychic vamp or the process in which a psychic vamp can absorb energy at a distance rather than by drawing it in by wasting your tine communicating. In this process a psychic vamp will focus on their energy field, make a connection sort of inhale through the mouth and exert that stagnant energy out the nose.
Correct?

Well, it depends. As a vampire you are not attempting to release energy. You absorb it and refine it into useful energy for whatever your bidding is. You use energy all the time when doing pretty much anything occult based. Vampires absorb this and are pretty much energy hoarders with a goal. My goal for example, is to self deitify.

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Well, it depends. As a vampire you are not attempting to release energy. You absorb it and refine it into useful energy for whatever your bidding is. You use energy all the time when doing pretty much anything occult based. Vampires absorb this and are pretty much energy hoarders with a goal. My goal for example, is to self deitify.

But yes, you are correct. By breathing in as you focus you are absorbing energy

 

[Shade]

Well, it depends. As a vampire you are not attempting to release energy

Yup, in my previous post I wrote….
“Epitome of a psychic vamp or the process in which a psychic vamp can absorb energy at a distance”
The point I was making at the end is when you store the energy the leftover is more so stagnant and useless as you used it to replenish your own and you want to keep absorbing the energy to give yourself energy as well as a reservoir for when it’s needed, rather in the physical, in the astral or after death. so you release the stagnant (energy that’s no longer of use because it’s been used by you already, this can also be more or less akin to like a death essence you can use in spell work) it serves its purpose but not the same purpose as the life energy you absorb. but by getting rid of what no longer serves your purpose you can give room to absorb more life giving energy and keep putting more to the side.
Correct?

 

[Accipeveldare]

Yup, in my previous post I wrote….
“Epitome of a psychic vamp or the process in which a psychic vamp can absorb energy at a distance”
The point I was making at the end is when you store the energy the leftover is more so stagnant and useless as you used it to replenish your own and you want to keep absorbing the energy to give yourself energy as well as a reservoir for when it’s needed, rather in the physical, in the astral or after death. so you release that stagnant to absorb more life giving energy.
Correct?

Yes. Indeed you are very correct

 

[Azareth]

It depends on the energy I guess.

If I eat souls or absorb ambiant energy from people it'll feel like food (like ingesting something, but from everywhere. Like osmosis you could say).
When I absorb energy from the sun it'll feel like being cooked in an oven (like being blasted with literal fire. My body temp will skyrocket. Which is fine in the Winter, but means I can't be in the sun more than a few minutes unless I was cold when in the shadow. And I mustn't be active).

When I get emotional (any strong emotion) it'll feel like a wave of heat coming from my core (I don't have chakras, just one central core that then fills my vessel).

Emitting energy (for energy work typically) will feel either like heat or a buzz depending on what I'm trying to do and my emotional state at the time.

Energy stones (if there are enough of them) will make me nauseous and disoriented (don't know if that applies to the question).

Electro-magnetic fields will generally feel like a buzz.

 

[moe091]

For me, energy feels equivalent to sexual energy. It's different when it's "free floating" in the body instead of channeled along a very specific and concentrated sexual pathway, but it is undeniably the same essence, the same flavor. Maybe I am only working with on particular type of energy though, I am not very deep into occult practices, aside from meditation and some ad-hoc techniques based on western alchemy. My work is basically just an expansion of the psychodynamic theory of libido(mostly Freud and Jung, leaning more towards Jung's theory which regards libido as psychic energy in general, rather than sexual energy) - reverse engineering processes such as canalization, regression, and cathexis combined with precise clarity, focus, and intent to concentrate and direct energy within myself in a way that empowers me to create results in the real world. I've never attempted to direct energy anywhere outside of myself directly - that doesn't even make sense in my model, and I question if it's even real or if all outward "magical" actions are just the result of personal transformations that end up creating the desired result through normal cause-and-effect.

I am here to learn from more esoteric sources and see how my personal model can be expanded upon though, as exoteric ideas necessarily hit the brick wall of becoming too eccentric and/or subtle to gather enough recognition to maintain any momentum or even just escape complete obscurity.

If anyone has understanding of both sides of this I'd live to hear your views on how the "energy" I work with fits in with larger occult models and how they might be expanded upon. So far, Rudolf Steiners work in Anthroposophy seems like the most direct evolution, and offers a lot of practical advice and practices that will immediately make sense to any honest and serious student of psychoanalysis. Also planning on looking into Eliphas Levi next, his ideas of the Astral Light/Magnetic Fluid seem to be larger models which libido can plug into nicely as one specific category of this "Astral Light".

 

[Shade]

Rudolf Steiners

He was the Rosecrucian correct? There is someone who studied a lot of his work that does interviews, I forget his name off the top of my head but I know what you mean by the sexual energy, as it get furrher for me it feels different but definitsley the same sensation. Sometimes a lot stronger other times a bit more mild other times nearly electric in nature, A practice I started doing to feel all the subtle energies is up through my left side simultaneously going down my right side then switch it up as you please going up and out and down and out or brining the sensation all upwards or downwards. IMO that’s a good practice to control it better and feel more subtle aspects of it.

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It's like an occult way of getting high if you think about it.

Couldn’t have said it better myself, the sensation is amazing, I did some (legal) type shrooms (no psylo It’s just Amanito gummies) and it gave a body buzz like if you were to meditate for an extended period of time. (I don’t condone any use of narcotics, not worth the money when you can get the same sensation meditating) <- pretty sure I gotta say that. But yeah 100% charka meditations can give you the same body feeling just takes longer. Which is pretty insane when you think of possible implications.
reminds me of the “stoned ape theory”

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Maybe meditating and feeling energy coursing through the body does activate something inside us. I know the topic is “what do you feel energy as” so it makes me wonder..‘if we feel energy differently.. would That affect the way we evolve?’just a random thought.

 

[Xenophon]

Just a general question, what do you personally feel/experience energy as? A warmth, a tingling or even a “ZZZ” sensation, in your best words how would you describe the way you personally feel it? If you care to bring it up where and when did you first notice being able to feel it when others had no clue what you were talking about or did they? How would you describe it to someone who never has experienced the sensation?
The point of this discussion is to see if there is any cross over between the way a person “feels” or “experiences” the sensation of energy and what their main purpose for pursuing magick was. Or if there is any correlation in experiences.

Discuss anything you want relating to your experiences with energy or how it may have affected the way you view/approached magick as a whole or any correlations you think it may have to your specific practice. Where do you feel it in your body more than other places? Do LHP and RHP people have the same experience in regards to where they experience it more or less?

** What are your experiences in
What were your expectations going into it if you did so knowingly and did they differ?

Let’s find out

v v v

The most memorable times have been when I was warned off something. Then it's like a flashbulb going off back behind the eyes, but without that over visual element. This has been few enough times to count on one hand (though three in the past 7-8 years.) Most recently, I opened an email from a group whose founder's teachings I was looking into. Before I read the email, I had the psychic equivalent of turning over what one thought to be a sleeper and finding a starting-to-stink corpse. Which squared pretty well with the email unintended subtext. In all cases, the energy comes off as a definitely unsettling surge.